i bet he never washed up in his life, but if he did he would wear these with a pinny & probably little else

Nope never ever thought Prince was washed up, I've always loved what he has does and always will and I have introduced his music to my nearly 4 year old daughter and she loves him too!

There's so much hate for TRC album. I thought it was bad ass the first time I played it. That can only lead me to believe that most of you(that don't like the album) aren't big into jazz. I wasn't big on the religious overtones of it but the sounds were & still are amazing to me.


Washed up? I immediately thought of New Power Soul. As a whole it is just lame to me. There are a couple of gems on there but the overall album, lame.

Se7en said:

I think Prince lost it with "Batman" when he started using digital recorder (known as "direct to disk" at that time), it made him kinda "lazy" when he started to copy and paste his own background vocals all over the songs (and even on stage...), I feel his songwriter skills started to fade too at this point. So maybe technology is somehow responsible and if he'd record "Controversy" right now, i doubt it would sound so good. Honestly i think all the Post-Warner era Prince records - with other words, all the records made at Paisley Park - sound like unpersonal and cold shit.

masbas said:

hell yeah..washed up for the past 10+ years and still counting...wats up with the same old tired covers of other peoples songs at his shows? Heres a guy wid more songs than any entertainer on earth and his set lists are the same tired "play that funky music..." and other covers that makes no sense at a "Prince " show..we want PRINCE ! we want PRINCE! we want PRINCE !
i /some of us / most of us miss the raw unpolished beats that got our attention...without hearing his voice (back in the day) u know a Prince song from the first few beats / notes...he was in a class by himself sound and beatwise..now he sounds ordinary and forgettable..anyway thanks for what u already gave us...no other artist got me attention the way you did...and i know u got it in you to be cutting edge again..just dont know why u holding back...wish u would just let loose on guitar on an album and rip it up(show off for once) ,,,and while u at it..we want videos..and another concert movie(nothing over edited like live@alladin) ...ok orgers feel free to tell me to F**K off...but its just my point of view..: )

There was a period where Prince was washed up for me personally. Back in '00-'01, when I was 20-21 years old, I had sort of rebelled against everything I had been into up to that point in my life. After I reorganized, I re-introduced all of the things that I actually did like, one of them of course being Prince. It also helped that I went to the One Night Alone show in Cleveland in early '02.

Teacher said:

Well said ,I share the same point of view...thanks for putting it in words "Teacher"...not saying he shud make another "1999" or "dirty mind" but nothng FRESH and passionate bout his SOUND now a days...other artist are doing Prince better than Prince himself...guy seem half dead and too polished...miss the prince from the cream video, party man video,batdance video, u got the look video..there he seemed to be having fun and took us with him..now he's such a bore in his songs and on screen(the little we get to see of him).I hate the crap about how "Prince dont get airtime,thats why he doesnt have hits for a long time' ..thats bullshit !!! he doesnt get airtime cause he is BORING! make great songs (and videos)u get great airtime...my point of view.

well i lost interest in him in the 90's but gained interest as a fan again in 2004 and I can honestly say, other than his fiasco with the Internet I have not been disappointed.

I'm not really sure what washed up really means. There are so many other artists who are not doing anything. People who go years without a cd or concert. Prince, even though he's not on the charts or anything, seems to keep on going.

1997 - New Power Soul
1999 New Masters
1999 Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic

Teacher said:

Yeah, I kind of agree with you here. It sounds like he is coasting right now...his shows sound tired, and Planet Earth was simply not very good. He can still wow us like at the Superbowl, and at Coachella last year, but lately when I hear reports of his shows, they are full of covers and endless jamming. Prince has the most interesting and cool songs in his library, many of which he has never played live, but he chooses to play yet another Sly and the Family Stone song or some old tired Cars song in his sets. My opinion of him coasting could have to do with the fact is that I am older and really don't care that much anymore...but I do think right now, unless he has some major comeback album, he just might be done.

He also seemed washed up when he changed his name after the Symbol album came out...but then he came back with Gold Experience. Again, after Emancipation through to Rave...I thought "thats it, he is done", but then he came back with Rainbow Children. So I hope he does come back and can do it for us again. Here's to wishing...

Rave

As a triple album, Emancipation had no chance and we knew that Come, NPS and C&D were just throwaway filler but Rave was supposed to be a big, intentionally "pop" comeback. It had a duet with possible the hottest female pop star at the time (Gwen) and was produced by "Prince" and was backed by the pop comeback "genius" Clive Davis.

While Prince will blame Clive and his ouster from Arista for the flop (might have a point) it is quite possible that even with a full running Arista, promotion and a hot video for "So far, so Please" this album would have still been a blip.

look its simple there is no true inspiration. the cat lives to be inspired, if there is no true influence all he is going to do is record shit on tape. case in point "Chocolate box" the fuck? Prince shoulda beat his own ass for even thinking about it.

No I never thought he was washed up. In the past, I have wondered if certain songs have made him sound old, like Prettyman. Everyone was praising that song but I was like "bleh" to it. I finally liked it a couple of years ago but even with that, I've never thought of him as being washed up. For me, I wouldn't be a fan of someone who I thought was washed up, so for me to still be a Prince fan, means that I don't think he's fits into that category.
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Yeah.





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nup....

but there was a point were i thought maybe its time for him
to open up Paisley Park Studios around the world and take a
back seat for a while.....

I'd get a better interior decorator tho.....

Riverpoet31 said:

Graffiti Bridge ....just a bad film big deal hollywood makes them everyday..next

The NPGmusic club period ... err....early days of the internet...not a lot of artist using this medium ....for sales of music...next

The Rainbow Children .... ha ha you must be crazy ..so you don't like any tracks on this CD .... next..

3121 - Oh prince is rich big deal we know that ....oh he has pictures of his place in the CD cover big deal....next

Indigo Nights ....its a coffee table book .....its got music lyrics ...pictures of him in london doing a record breaking tour of 21 nights...oh and get this a live CD in the book as well.....wait for it.... tell me ...you don't like the CD as well...next ...

Sorry man it's not 1978, 1984 or 1999 it's 2009 move with the times or stay FACE DOWN...
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Yes I think he is coasting these days - though Lotus might prove that theory wrong if we ever get to hear it ...

Yes the setlists are tired these days, I wish he would do something different with them.

This would be a great tour - Prince looks back at his catalogue and picks his favourite song from each album - THAT would be the most kickass concert because he would be playing what HE wants to play, not what WE want or what he thinks we want or expect. There would be inspiration , passion etc and maybe even playing HIS favourite songs, might get him writing some great material again !

Chronologically or not it would be a fantastic setlist whatever songs he chose....

OR hey Prince do a GOLD EXPERIENCE Tour all over again, ALL NEW material, blow our heads off with the funk

FunkyStrange said:

yes please

I've never thought Prince was washed up, but I have felt that he is very much out of love with the game.

I thought P lost a lot of his magic in 94 with...

1) the name change
2) the thin and gaunt look
3) the heavy face makeup
4) the crazy Versace ads and clothes
5) the COME CD (...yes I said it).
6) the "Tora/Tora" look and mindless interviews
7) the Carmen Electra LP
8) the 1-800 New Funk crap
9) the 13 different remixes of "The Most Beautiful Girl" recording
10)the "Get Wild" cologne
11)booking TV appearances and not showing up.
12) the "glyph" guitar
13) Kirky J's thin drum programming
14 the "unsure look" about himself

..now I wouldn't say he was washed up, but he seemed like he was going thru the motions and trying to do anything to salvage himself. It just seemed like the P from 9 or 10 years before had really fallen from grace.

Having said all that, I'm looking foward to the new CD's at the end of the month. He seems in a much better place now.

Ok...lets re-evaluate our replies here.... Just because WE like a particular song or album doesnt mean that excludes him from being washed up. I personally like the "Come" album, but I still new it would be a bomb "mainstream" wise. I loved many songs and albums that bombed. Noone can honestly say that they thought The Rainbow Children was a return to mainstream for Prince.
Just thought Id toss that out there.

ronnwinter said:

So are you saying that because he doesn't have a hit song on the radio, that makes him "washed-up"?

That Glam Slam phase

purplecam said:

No no...Not in MY eyes! I mean "mainstream" wise. It seems now everyone wants a piece of Prince. But when did you think those days were over?

ronnwinter said:

Oh ok, I see where you're coming from.

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