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An early tracklisting for "diamonds and pearls" Accoring to Wiki, it was this:
1)"Daddy Pop" 2)"Walk Don't Walk" 3)"Schoolyard" 4)"Strollin'" 5)"Willing and Able" 6)"Diamonds and Pearls" 7)"Insatiable" 8)"Money Don't Matter 2 Night" 9)"Horny Pony" 10)"Live 4 love" 11)"Something Funky This House Comes" 12)"Call The Law" 13)"The Flow" No "gett off", no "cream"? This album woulda bombed right? No "push" either, which is one of my favs LOL. "Something funky this house comes" is terrible. "Call the law" by comparison is genius. The original version of the "flow" sounded awful on my boot, but i loved the way it turned out on "symbol". Anyway, I actually really like "horny pony", and it sucks it got left off (miles better then that dredge of a track, "live for love"). ! Starting with "daddy pop" aswell? Don't mind the track but hardly a trailblazing opening is it? But honestly, this album was heading for disaster What do you think? | |
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Whoa, live4love sucks? I don't think so ....
thesexofit said: Accoring to Wiki, it was this:
1)"Daddy Pop" 2)"Walk Don't Walk" 3)"Schoolyard" 4)"Strollin'" 5)"Willing and Able" 6)"Diamonds and Pearls" 7)"Insatiable" 8)"Money Don't Matter 2 Night" 9)"Horny Pony" 10)"Live 4 love" 11)"Something Funky This House Comes" 12)"Call The Law" 13)"The Flow" No "gett off", no "cream"? This album woulda bombed right? No "push" either, which is one of my favs LOL. "Something funky this house comes" is terrible. "Call the law" by comparison is genius. The original version of the "flow" sounded awful on my boot, but i loved the way it turned out on "symbol". Anyway, I actually really like "horny pony", and it sucks it got left off (miles better then that dredge of a track, "live for love"). ! Starting with "daddy pop" aswell? Don't mind the track but hardly a trailblazing opening is it? But honestly, this album was heading for disaster What do you think? | |
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shayde said: Whoa, live4love sucks? I don't think so ....
thesexofit said: Accoring to Wiki, it was this:
1)"Daddy Pop" 2)"Walk Don't Walk" 3)"Schoolyard" 4)"Strollin'" 5)"Willing and Able" 6)"Diamonds and Pearls" 7)"Insatiable" 8)"Money Don't Matter 2 Night" 9)"Horny Pony" 10)"Live 4 love" 11)"Something Funky This House Comes" 12)"Call The Law" 13)"The Flow" No "gett off", no "cream"? This album woulda bombed right? No "push" either, which is one of my favs LOL. "Something funky this house comes" is terrible. "Call the law" by comparison is genius. The original version of the "flow" sounded awful on my boot, but i loved the way it turned out on "symbol". Anyway, I actually really like "horny pony", and it sucks it got left off (miles better then that dredge of a track, "live for love"). ! Starting with "daddy pop" aswell? Don't mind the track but hardly a trailblazing opening is it? But honestly, this album was heading for disaster What do you think? It just sorta drags. Its quite unlike anything in his catalog though. Almost has prog influences, but somehow, just doesn't go anywhere. | |
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Gett Off was the last song added to complete the 'released' version of D&P....this has happen on numerous occasions with Prince albums....thieves in the temple was a last minute late addition to Graffiti Bridge for example....I wonder how many versions of each album there has been before Prince finally said 'that's it'... many no doubt..and a few that we don't know about too....since Prince left WBs its been harder and harder to get concrete info on Prince's studio habits and aborted projects - there have been many...makes me wonder what is happening to Lotus Flower & the other 2 albums...has prince left them as is for the last month or 2....or is he still tweaking? | |
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What!?! No Jughead!?!?
This tracklisting sucks..... | |
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I can't believe that he was seriously considering "Horny Pony" for the album That's a weak,dumb song that shouldn't have even appeared as a B-side. | |
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SoulAlive said: I can't believe that he was seriously considering "Horny Pony" for the album That's a weak,dumb song that shouldn't have even appeared as a B-side.
at least a b side To Sir, with Love | |
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Im always dubious of these "early configurations". Ive seen early configs of Purple Rain, Parade, Sign O The Times / Crystal Ball /Dream Factory etc., and im not sure Prince ever intends a lot of them to be the final product. Maybe their configured to give WB execs an idea of where he's heading with the record.
I understand that someone as prolific as prince will always change things right to the last second, but the very first configurations of Parade / Purple Rain look a long way off being complete records. | |
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CrozzaUK said: Im always dubious of these "early configurations". Ive seen early configs of Purple Rain, Parade, Sign O The Times / Crystal Ball /Dream Factory etc., and im not sure Prince ever intends a lot of them to be the final product. Maybe their configured to give WB execs an idea of where he's heading with the record.
I understand that someone as prolific as prince will always change things right to the last second, but the very first configurations of Parade / Purple Rain look a long way off being complete records. Yeah, a lot of them are W.I.P. Sometimes a track is used more for it's 'feel' or type (tempo/mood), with the intention that it will be replaced later down the line. An example that I think I recall accurately is 'A Wonderful Day' from the early configs of Dream Factory. [Edited 2/26/09 6:24am] | |
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PEJ said: SoulAlive said: I can't believe that he was seriously considering "Horny Pony" for the album That's a weak,dumb song that shouldn't have even appeared as a B-side.
at least a b side Nah,it's a weak B-side song plus,the "horny pony" concept was already used on Lovesexy and "Le Grind".He was recycling an old idea. | |
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NouveauDance said: CrozzaUK said: Im always dubious of these "early configurations". Ive seen early configs of Purple Rain, Parade, Sign O The Times / Crystal Ball /Dream Factory etc., and im not sure Prince ever intends a lot of them to be the final product. Maybe their configured to give WB execs an idea of where he's heading with the record.
I understand that someone as prolific as prince will always change things right to the last second, but the very first configurations of Parade / Purple Rain look a long way off being complete records. Yeah, a lot of them are W.I.P. Sometimes a track is used more for it's 'feel' or type (tempo/mood), with the intention that it will be replaced later down the line. An example that I recall accurately is 'A Wonderful Day' from the early configs of Dream Factory. I think early configurations are fun.You get a chance to see what could have been.I was very impressed with the early configuation of 'TGE'....when it included songs like "Days Of Wild","Interactive" and "Ripopgodazippa".I was kinda disappointed when those songs were taken off the album. | |
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SoulAlive said: I think early configurations are fun.You get a chance to see what could have been.I was very impressed with the early configuation of 'TGE'....when it included songs like "Days Of Wild","Interactive" and "Ripopgodazippa".I was kinda disappointed when those songs were taken off the album.
Yeah, I think Prince can often be guilty of trying to guild the lily. Sometimes it works though - Gett Off and Cream, certainly not two of my favourites, but they were big hits. | |
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I do not know what to think of this. I would really miss Cream and Gett Off, but I have always enjoyed Call the Law and Schoolyard is one of my top 5 Prince songs of all time. I abdicated the throne in Ithaca, but now I am...
Albany's Number 1 Prince Fan | |
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CrozzaUK said: What!?! No Jughead!?!?
This tracklisting sucks..... LMAO. I saw a live performance of Jughead the other day, and my eyes are still bleeding a little bit. | |
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jimino1 said: Gett Off was the last song added to complete the 'released' version of D&P....this has happen on numerous occasions with Prince albums....thieves in the temple was a last minute late addition to Graffiti Bridge for example....I wonder how many versions of each album there has been before Prince finally said 'that's it'... many no doubt..and a few that we don't know about too....since Prince left WBs its been harder and harder to get concrete info on Prince's studio habits and aborted projects - there have been many...makes me wonder what is happening to Lotus Flower & the other 2 albums...has prince left them as is for the last month or 2....or is he still tweaking?
where in the world do you guys get this information?!!! cheers! ~svn seven | |
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Horny Pony! What a piece of shit. And what is with Rosie's goofy comments in the whole song? "He is just sooooo weird." Isn't that the point?
"That's nastyyy." haha Sure is babee. Real hiphoppers had to laugh at this shit. ----- An aside, When Doves Cry is the most famous late ad on. Skoolyard is the mack. All you others say Hell Yea!! | |
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2freaky4church1 said: Horny Pony! What a piece of shit. And what is with Rosie's goofy comments in the whole song? "He is just sooooo weird." Isn't that the point?
"That's nastyyy." haha Sure is babee. Real hiphoppers had to laugh at this shit. it's the new dance....it's the sex dance a crappy song An aside, When Doves Cry is the most famous late ad on
Indeed! | |
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SoulAlive said: it's the new dance....it's the sex dance Definately a contender for worst line in a Prince song ever. And almost a a whole decade before 'she makes you feel like your stuff ain't brown'. Oh, Prince | |
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since all the outtakes i've heard from this project are worse
than the album material, i can't help but wonder if there are any more songs from these sessions that we've not heard yet. the early config of this album included horrible demo versions of nearly all the songs. it's incredible how much the songs were improved by the time they were released because some of the demo tracks for this album are amongst the worst demo cuts in his entire career imo. still, i've always been hoping he would release two or three more tracks from this period that we've not heard before. if he ever did a crystal ball II type release i would love for it to have some unknown D&P outtakes so we could replace the tony m featured songs with simply prince tracks. that would do the album a world of good. i still like these: thunder diamonds and pearls cream strollin' willin and able gett off walk don't walk money don't matter 2 nite insatiable live 4 love but with just a few more prince solo songs and perhaps one more npg song, like perhaps "schoolyard" and "i wonder" or even "the grand progression" as album closer, this album could have stood the test of time a lot better. right now, it is dragged down hugely by the raps and cheesy fx. anyway, didn't he also write "love..thy will be done" at this time? wow. talk about a difference. and true love lives on lollipops and crisps | |
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NouveauDance said: SoulAlive said: it's the new dance....it's the sex dance Definately a contender for worst line in a Prince song ever. And almost a a whole decade before 'she makes you feel like your stuff ain't brown'. Oh, Prince What?!?! But we're talking about the dance that every parent fears the most! It's gotta be hot. I love Horny Pony...as a B side. It's definitely not A-list album material, but for a B-side, no problem I also love the "Horny Pony getcha gonna" rhyme. | |
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NouveauDance said: SoulAlive said: it's the new dance....it's the sex dance Definately a contender for worst line in a Prince song ever. And almost a a whole decade before 'she makes you feel like your stuff ain't brown'. Oh, Prince | |
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2freaky4church1 said: Horny Pony! What a piece of shit. And what is with Rosie's goofy comments in the whole song? "He is just sooooo weird." Isn't that the point?
"That's nastyyy." haha Sure is babee. Real hiphoppers had to laugh at this shit. ----- An aside, When Doves Cry is the most famous late ad on. Skoolyard is the mack. That was Robin Power. | |
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NouveauDance said: SoulAlive said: it's the new dance....it's the sex dance Definately a contender for worst line in a Prince song ever. And almost a a whole decade before 'she makes you feel like your stuff ain't brown'. Oh, Prince wtf song is that on | |
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It's hard to imagine 'The Flow' outside the context of o(+> | |
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InsatiableCream said: NouveauDance said: Definately a contender for worst line in a Prince song ever. And almost a a whole decade before 'she makes you feel like your stuff ain't brown'. Oh, Prince wtf song is that on "Baby Knows" | |
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IstenSzek said: since all the outtakes i've heard from this project are worse
than the album material, i can't help but wonder if there are any more songs from these sessions that we've not heard yet. the early config of this album included horrible demo versions of nearly all the songs. it's incredible how much the songs were improved by the time they were released because some of the demo tracks for this album are amongst the worst demo cuts in his entire career imo. still, i've always been hoping he would release two or three more tracks from this period that we've not heard before. if he ever did a crystal ball II type release i would love for it to have some unknown D&P outtakes so we could replace the tony m featured songs with simply prince tracks. that would do the album a world of good. i still like these: thunder diamonds and pearls cream strollin' willin and able gett off walk don't walk money don't matter 2 nite insatiable live 4 love but with just a few more prince solo songs and perhaps one more npg song, like perhaps "schoolyard" and "i wonder" or even "the grand progression" as album closer, this album could have stood the test of time a lot better. right now, it is dragged down hugely by the raps and cheesy fx. anyway, didn't he also write "love..thy will be done" at this time? wow. talk about a difference. It's really easy to make your own edits removing the raps with a wave editor. A few of us have done that on here and have made Diamonds & Pearls and virtually Tony M. free. As much as I love some of the outtakes from around this time like "Open Book", "I Wonder", "Love...Thy Will Be Done" and "Spirit", they really don't go with the rest of this material because they're much too programmed sounding to fit in with the big band/hip hop hybrid sound he was going for at the time. | |
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wasn't OPEN BOOK supposed 2 be on that album @ one time? BOB4theFUNK | |
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I Love, "Live4Love." "Diamonds and Pearls," is a great album. It could've been a couple of songs longer. "The Lion Sleeps Tonight... | |
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7e7e7 said: where in the world do you guys get this information?!!!
cheers! ~svn seven Housequake!! LOL.....actually that's not far from the truth...but various people here (and there) have shared a lot of knowledge which, like most, I am more than happy to pass on...The Vault (book) is a must although I must say I have only read that recently....I hope someone takes over that project, its needing a big update now people who have the inside scoop are the best resource for finding things out -thankfully there are a lot of good people in the 'prince universe' who don't mind sharing their stories.... its not as though Prince will ever spill the gravy! | |
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TRON said: InsatiableCream said: wtf song is that on "Baby Knows" figures. that song is terrible too | |
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