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Thread started 02/17/09 7:02pm

thebanishedone

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do you think prince's dessision not to peform song like erotic city,darling nikki...

and all other songs that contain cuss words is stupid?
its ok if prince dont want to swear in his somngs of recent date,but is it stupid to edit old songs because of raunchy lyrics.
songs like head,sexy mother fucker are realy good songs .
too good not to be peformed.
or is our destiny to hear erotic city live only if its done by a cover band?
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Reply #1 posted 02/17/09 7:13pm

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I hesitate to call anything Prince does "stupid," but I don't like the idea of him no longer performing any amount of his songs for any reason.
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Reply #2 posted 02/17/09 7:16pm

Genesia

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Again?
We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #3 posted 02/17/09 11:07pm

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Stupid? Absolutely not. He has made a decision not to perform that material because of his religion. We should all respect that choice.
Besides if u don't want to accept it...you can always buy the record.

I've seen Prince 10 times live and have seen all i need to see as far as "dirty" songs.
Prince did an interview with a woman at Record World. They talked about whatever, then he asked her: "Does your pubic hair go up to your navel?" At that moment, we thought maybe we shouldn't encourage him to do interviews.
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Reply #4 posted 02/17/09 11:16pm

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Swearing is cool. Everyone's doing it.
If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot.
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Reply #5 posted 02/17/09 11:31pm

Paris9748430

Jesus Christ.

They're his songs.

He can choose to perform, or not perform anything he wants.

If anyone has a problem with that, THEY'RE stupid!!!
JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!!
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Reply #6 posted 02/18/09 1:08am

RumAndRaisin

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same old threads...
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Reply #7 posted 02/18/09 1:42am

viewaskew

It'd be a different if his newer material was better, but it's not. So yeah: stupid.
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Reply #8 posted 02/18/09 2:57am

IstenSzek

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much as i'd love to hear some of those tracks again, i can understand
why he doesn't perform them anymore. people grow and acquire different
interests or outlooks. somehow it wouldn't seem that cool anymore if
a 50+ yr old were cussing and singing songs like "head" live on stage.

i would however love a documentary of each past tour to be mastered,
sequenced and released on his new website, complete with cussing.

but as apt or as cool as it was on those old tours when prince was a
horny young man or a disappointed or a frustrated one, it just isn't
something i really expect or yearn for him to start doing again.
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #9 posted 02/18/09 5:42am

thebanishedone

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irrisistable bitch
head
darling nikki
sexy mf
those songs are too funky not to be peformed live and prince knows it thats why he played clips of his raunchy songs on london 21 nights tour 2007
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Reply #10 posted 02/18/09 5:51am

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even though I don't personally agree with Prince's choice of religion, it does have a bearing on his "decision" (spell check, anyone?)to not play raunchy songs, and as fans, I think we should respect his decision not to use dirty words, instead of calling it stupid. go ahead and drink some more....
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Reply #11 posted 02/18/09 6:30am

thebanishedone

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sorry for the wrong spelling,english is my second language,but thats no excuse... biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin
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Reply #12 posted 02/18/09 6:38am

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Prince has moved on from those days when he sang songs like the kind you are speaking of and I am proud to see his growth. There has been a change in his life that is clearly evident in his music. The music that he makes now is still great. Like Prince said in the interview he did with Tavis Smiley that when a person wants him to sing songs like that and curse, it speaks more of that persons own morality than his. So my question is why, if Prince is continually making good music and it is cleaner, would you want him to go back to those Dirty Mind days? Life is all about growth and one cant grow if they are back tracking.

P.S. Another reason is that I would not want to hear a 50 year old man singing about Head. Sorry, thats just wrong in so many ways to me.
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Reply #13 posted 02/18/09 9:09am

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thebanishedone said:

and all other songs that contain cuss words is stupid?
its ok if prince dont want to swear in his somngs of recent date,but is it stupid to edit old songs because of raunchy lyrics.
songs like head,sexy mother fucker are realy good songs .
too good not to be peformed.
or is our destiny to hear erotic city live only if its done by a cover band?


I dont know but your decision to spell dessision like that seems a little nutso!
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Reply #14 posted 02/18/09 5:17pm

thebanishedone

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fwell what can i say
im just a freak baby cool
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Reply #15 posted 02/19/09 5:06am

Tame

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I suppose if Prince is looking 4 the recognizable change in his decision making...yes, however, starting a fresh attitude toward lyrics is just as acceptable.

When I think of the way that some people perform...I'm basically talking about women here..."We as people," know that if U are beautiful and U can sing and dance, U are capable of getting attention."

Why do some people insist on exposing the capable "Slutty side," of performing when those are the things U can do with your boyfriend at home behind closed doors? cool
"The Lion Sleeps Tonight...
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Reply #16 posted 02/19/09 9:05am

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thebanishedone said:

and all other songs that contain cuss words is stupid?
its ok if prince dont want to swear in his somngs of recent date,but is it stupid to edit old songs because of raunchy lyrics.
songs like head,sexy mother fucker are realy good songs .
too good not to be peformed.
or is our destiny to hear erotic city live only if its done by a cover band?


No it's not stupid.
I would love 2 talk to him about the reasonings he gave
1 reason he said was that there are kids that come to his concerts.
1st off parents have a problem with not regulating their childrens activities.
If the parents don't care that much 4 the kids then oh well.

But the Aftershows are (Adult Only) some of the concerts and late shows are (Adult Only)

I have no problem with him 'editing' the words.
He could actually sing "If we cannot make babies maybe.. love so pretty U and me Erotic City come alive" Erotic City is one of my favorites. And he actually did play Erotic City & Irrisistable Bitch at his last house party in L.A.
He didn't sing the lyrics to Erotic City they played it instrumentally,


So he wants to do the music but is probably looking for ways around it.
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Reply #17 posted 02/19/09 9:10am

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Paris9748430 said:

Jesus Christ.

They're his songs.

He can choose to perform, or not perform anything he wants.

If anyone has a problem with that, THEY'RE stupid!!!

Couldn't have said it any better.

I will say that I wish Prince didn't make it a big deal to talk about not doing the "dirty" songs but it's his decision and he's stuck to it for several years now.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #18 posted 02/19/09 9:38am

viewaskew

I'd rather he didn't do them at all over sanitizing them. "I'm spiritually attracted to you?" Please....
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Reply #19 posted 02/19/09 9:48am

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viewaskew said:

I'd rather he didn't do them at all over sanitizing them. "I'm spiritually attracted to you?" Please....

I don't like him doing that to the songs either but what can we do? It's his music. shrug
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #20 posted 02/19/09 10:26am

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IstenSzek said:

much as i'd love to hear some of those tracks again, i can understand
why he doesn't perform them anymore. people grow and acquire different
interests or outlooks. somehow it wouldn't seem that cool anymore if
a 50+ yr old were cussing and singing songs like "head" live on stage.

i would however love a documentary of each past tour to be mastered,
sequenced and released on his new website, complete with cussing.

but as apt or as cool as it was on those old tours when prince was a
horny young man or a disappointed or a frustrated one, it just isn't
something i really expect or yearn for him to start doing again.


50yr olds still curse and they still have sex including oral sex.
What does age have to do with it?
Prince is still in his prime to be honest, 50 is not old at all. Even though
a lot of 50 yr olds begin to act old because society tells them not to show any skin, not to be sexy, and have sex? that's not supposed to happen.
If Prince married again do we think he's going to keep his pants on and "Make love only with words..."?

No, he's going to get buck wild, he'll probably have oral sex, wild sex, nekked sex... There is nothing wrong with it...

And I don't think frustrated and disappointed has anything to do with age as well... especially since we can he his frustration with record companies, how to release his music, people downloading his songs and making money off it...
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Reply #21 posted 02/19/09 10:36am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

IstenSzek said:

much as i'd love to hear some of those tracks again, i can understand
why he doesn't perform them anymore. people grow and acquire different
interests or outlooks. somehow it wouldn't seem that cool anymore if
a 50+ yr old were cussing and singing songs like "head" live on stage.

i would however love a documentary of each past tour to be mastered,
sequenced and released on his new website, complete with cussing.

but as apt or as cool as it was on those old tours when prince was a
horny young man or a disappointed or a frustrated one, it just isn't
something i really expect or yearn for him to start doing again.


50yr olds still curse and they still have sex including oral sex.
What does age have to do with it?
Prince is still in his prime to be honest, 50 is not old at all. Even though
a lot of 50 yr olds begin to act old because society tells them not to show any skin, not to be sexy, and have sex? that's not supposed to happen.
If Prince married again do we think he's going to keep his pants on and "Make love only with words..."?

No, he's going to get buck wild, he'll probably have oral sex, wild sex, nekked sex... There is nothing wrong with it...

And I don't think frustrated and disappointed has anything to do with age as well... especially since we can he his frustration with record companies, how to release his music, people downloading his songs and making money off it...


first of all i never said that people over 50 become like barbie dolls
with no genitals and don't talk or think about sex, much less do it.

the disappointment or frustration were relating to prince's cursing in
the period of 1993-1995.

he never really cussed that much before but his music gained a new,
harder edge and drive and the cursing somehow fit that. since he's
past that stage and settled in a new groove, there is no more need
for him swearing in his songs to convey his feelings. at least that
is the way i take it. i could be wrong.

however, i can't really see any of his new songs being re-writted to
include curse words. where would they go? and how would the songs
benefit from them?

the sex talk is another matter completely. naturally prince and every
other 50+ yr old still has sex or sexual thoughts and they might even
have lively discussions about it amongst friends etc.

but i can see how he wouldn't talk about fucking the taste out of his
new wife's mouth in front of a 10,000 strong audience. that would be
like going to the supermarket and yelling at the cashier "hey bitch,
i just fucked the living shit out of my woman, and the ho liked it so
much she asked for desert. waddaboutdat beeeeeatch?"

tooooo much information. he could be doing it 15 times a day all week
long, but i don't want to hear about it anymore in concert. in fact,
i don't really want to hear that from young people.

it was cool in the 80s and the early 90s but everything has been said
and done in ways even prince would blush at by now so what's the use?
i'd rather hear him sing about something else i can relate to instead
of just masturbation, or lesbianism or having to watch him be strapped
to a bed and whipped on stage.

there's nothing wrong with sex talk or sexual innuendo or downright
filthy dirty nasty stuff but somehow i don't care about that when i
go see prince in concert. that stuff is for other places.
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #22 posted 02/19/09 10:40am

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thereislonely1 said:

Prince has moved on from those days when he sang songs like the kind you are speaking of and I am proud to see his growth. There has been a change in his life that is clearly evident in his music. The music that he makes now is still great. Like Prince said in the interview he did with Tavis Smiley that when a person wants him to sing songs like that and curse, it speaks more of that persons own morality than his. So my question is why, if Prince is continually making good music and it is cleaner, would you want him to go back to those Dirty Mind days? Life is all about growth and one cant grow if they are back tracking.

P.S. Another reason is that I would not want to hear a 50 year old man singing about Head. Sorry, thats just wrong in so many ways to me.


50 year old men have sex, 60 year old women have sex
it's nothing wrong with it.

The bible actually has some pretty explicit stuff in there(sexually)
Sex is natural at all ages. We call it nasty and dirty and something to be done in the dark.

and by the way Prince looks younger than many 25 yr olds
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Reply #23 posted 02/19/09 10:49am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

thereislonely1 said:

Prince has moved on from those days when he sang songs like the kind you are speaking of and I am proud to see his growth. There has been a change in his life that is clearly evident in his music. The music that he makes now is still great. Like Prince said in the interview he did with Tavis Smiley that when a person wants him to sing songs like that and curse, it speaks more of that persons own morality than his. So my question is why, if Prince is continually making good music and it is cleaner, would you want him to go back to those Dirty Mind days? Life is all about growth and one cant grow if they are back tracking.

P.S. Another reason is that I would not want to hear a 50 year old man singing about Head. Sorry, thats just wrong in so many ways to me.


50 year old men have sex, 60 year old women have sex
it's nothing wrong with it.

The bible actually has some pretty explicit stuff in there(sexually)
Sex is natural at all ages. We call it nasty and dirty and something to be done in the dark.

and by the way Prince looks younger than many 25 yr olds


as i said in my last post, nobody is saying people over a certain age don't
have or aren't supposed to have sex.

i just prefer it if people my parent's age don't sing about getting their
knob taken care of. i still love the song "head" or "irrisistible bitch",
but that's because they came from a certain period.

not saying they wouldn't be cool if he released them today but they would
seem very disturbing or laughable.
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #24 posted 02/19/09 11:09am

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thereislonely1 said:

Prince has moved on from those days when he sang songs like the kind you are speaking of and I am proud to see his growth. There has been a change in his life that is clearly evident in his music. The music that he makes now is still great. Like Prince said in the interview he did with Tavis Smiley that when a person wants him to sing songs like that and curse, it speaks more of that persons own morality than his. So my question is why, if Prince is continually making good music and it is cleaner, would you want him to go back to those Dirty Mind days? Life is all about growth and one cant grow if they are back tracking.

P.S. Another reason is that I would not want to hear a 50 year old man singing about Head. Sorry, thats just wrong in so many ways to me.



clapping and i'll add 2 other reasons he doesn't sing songs like this anymore...

when u listen 2 certain songs out 2day, it's all in ur face fuck this, fuck that with no other substance. prince comes 4 the school of innuendos, religion aside, y would he want 2 sound like everyone else out there in their lyrical content?

and the most imporatant reason he doesn't sing these songs anymore, cause it's NOT 1984 anymore and he's moved on, 2 bad the majority of his fans can't do that tho
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #25 posted 02/19/09 11:12am

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viewaskew said:

I'd rather he didn't do them at all over sanitizing them. "I'm spiritually attracted to you?" Please....



if u have never been spirtually connected 2 someone then yeah it makes no sense 2 u ..but if u have ..then it makes perfect sense
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #26 posted 02/19/09 1:31pm

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viewaskew said:

I'd rather he didn't do them at all over sanitizing them. "I'm spiritually attracted to you?" Please....



if u have never been spirtually connected 2 someone then yeah it makes no sense 2 u ..but if u have ..then it makes perfect sense


Not when he alters the lyrics to an already written & popularized song.

Ever the apologist...
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L4OATheOriginal said:

viewaskew said:

I'd rather he didn't do them at all over sanitizing them. "I'm spiritually attracted to you?" Please....



if u have never been spirtually connected 2 someone then yeah it makes no sense 2 u ..but if u have ..then it makes perfect sense


Please. Criticism of his lyrical changes have nothing to do with being able to grasp some vague divine dullness of being 'spiritually connected' to another person. If Prince wants to sing about being 'spiritually connected', he's free to do so but should do it within the confines of a new song. His lyrical alterations are nothing more than a case of him displaying how colonized his mind is. He's been herded into a mindset of a religious wacko and it's now reflected in many of his older songs which he apparently is embarrassed of. Let him write a hundred more dull, b-level James Brown knock-offs ala Get On The Boat or The Work til he drops from self-inflicted sychophanticism, but changing the content of previous songs doesn't work because changing a title or phrase ends up sounding out of place within the context of the song as a whole since the tune in question wasn't written as a spiritual song to start.
No hard feelings.
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Reply #28 posted 02/19/09 3:38pm

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Wall said:

L4OATheOriginal said:




if u have never been spirtually connected 2 someone then yeah it makes no sense 2 u ..but if u have ..then it makes perfect sense


Please. Criticism of his lyrical changes have nothing to do with being able to grasp some vague divine dullness of being 'spiritually connected' to another person. If Prince wants to sing about being 'spiritually connected', he's free to do so but should do it within the confines of a new song. His lyrical alterations are nothing more than a case of him displaying how colonized his mind is. He's been herded into a mindset of a religious wacko and it's now reflected in many of his older songs which he apparently is embarrassed of. Let him write a hundred more dull, b-level James Brown knock-offs ala Get On The Boat or The Work til he drops from self-inflicted sychophanticism, but changing the content of previous songs doesn't work because changing a title or phrase ends up sounding out of place within the context of the song as a whole since the tune in question wasn't written as a spiritual song to start.


Well said. If he's so intent on tarnishing his legacy, he should do that damage with new music, rather than poorly rewriting old tunes.

I suppose someone who supports this sort of thing also thought 1999: The New Master was listenable?
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viewaskew said:

L4OATheOriginal said:




if u have never been spirtually connected 2 someone then yeah it makes no sense 2 u ..but if u have ..then it makes perfect sense


Not when he alters the lyrics to an already written & popularized song.

Ever the apologist...
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so if say an xplicit lyric is per4med on tv, and the artist changes the lyrics so that the FCC doesn't fine them, then it's okay 2 change the lyric? and really when it comes 2 I feel 4 u, physcially changed 2 spirtiually isn't that grand of a big deal imo
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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