You know I was going to say something about his baby's death. Some thing I had heard at the time. But some things are sacred. So I will just say, Prince has had to live with some touch decisions he has made. Right or wrong. notice that Prince never had another child (or attempted to do so).

Imagine the pressure on such a creation? Would they live a normal life?

dothejump said:

[Bait snip - luv4u]

1. Wasted Kisses is NOT about Gregory. Read the lyrics. It's about a woman. (The line about tying someone up in burgandy stockings should be your first clue.)

2. I also think this should not be a topic of discussion and the thread should be closed.

viewaskew said:

That's considered bait? Sad. Double-standards live on.
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Please

Cloudbuster said:

Me too, especially since he talks about it on Oprah and uses the same language as in the song..."never say the words thier gone,,they'll comeback"

Comeback is definately about his son but I also believe that "Until U're In My Arms Again" is about his son too.

Dave1992 said:

Well Eric Clapton did it with Tears In Heaven for Connor. It was his biggest hit in decades. No one said he was crass.

dothejump said:

I agree. as one of Prince's songs says: Letitgo.

I understand that it is a touchy subject, but if Prince doesn't want it discussed then why would he release the songs? There are plenty of songs he has recorded and not released (some surely for personal reasons)! Comeback and Until you're in my arms again are excellent examples of his songwriting ability. Full of emotion and really quite beautiful.

This is the 1 thing I feel strongly should be out of bounds here. Please have some respect.

IstenSzek said:

i agree

In '95 or '96 Prince was interviewed in SPIN (maybe VIBE) by Spike Lee and mentioned a recently written and/or recorded song, most probably Come Back (I cannot recall if he named it) where he talked about if you don't mention the actual passing of someone then, "they'll come back". Can anyone - Langebleau - remember/confirm this interview?

Hope I spelled your name correctly??

This all really in bad taste and I feel this thread should go bye bye

i am sure empty room is about his son.
there are others, but i cannot remember them at the moment.
check out the dreams cd, disc 3, there are several there.

How does it feel to not pass on your genes? Your life and input into the planet suddenly stops with your death. It only takes a short, short while for all memories of you to be forgotten. My genes stop with me. I have chosen to breed myself out of the pool.

I would also agree with those that believe 'Come back' has more than a passing reference to his loss... especialy the line 'Never say the words, 'they're gone' and they'll come back.'

I must say that I don't agree with those calling for this topic to be locked. If you don't wish to discuss this subject, don't. Don't call for censorship, however. Freedom of speech means the freedom to say things that others might disagree with and/or may find uncomfortable to hear. The internet is wonderful, because you can switch it off. Whilst the discussion remains respectful, and - to be completely honest - even if it doesn't, censorship is not the way to deal with it.

I'd agree that it is 'Comeback' that is about the loss of his son.

I also think there is nothing wrong with discussing it, with all due respect of course.

He put the song out there on an album for thousands to hear, didn't he?

Hmm, funny how all the things that get said in this place often pass without comment yet this one raises some peoples heckles. So why is this?

Does the topic have a personal connection with some of you, do some of you have issues with death, perhaps more so the death of a child: perhaps some of you are a little too fanatical and are misplacing your emotions in defence of a person you do not know.

I think most of us here must by now have had painful experiences with the loss of those we know, possibly both young and old. I know I have had.

Myself and my wife lost an unborn child. It was something we weren't really aware of either and it was at a very very very early stage. What may have been. I've no problem with people discussing such topics.

Death comes with life and for those with great spiritual belief surely the pain is lessened with the knowledge that it is part of a 'great plan' or that they will be 'reunited' with those gone? Or maybe not? (A discussion on 'beliefs' is not something I wish to debate.)

But is it in poor taste? I don't think so. After all, talking about these things forces us to address them and our feelings. We all know how damaging it is to keep our thoughts and emotions 'bottled-up'.

Would a song about Prince's son be emotional? I don't think the subject matter of a song automatically guarantees a concordant response.

But then again what do I know? I just cried watching some crap "moving home" daytime tv programme where the couple, in Australia and thinking of moving there, watched a video message from their family back in Wales (UK). They cried, I cried. So who knows what it takes to touch someone.

goodbourn said:

Actually, Empty Room was rumored to have been written about his break-up with Susannah Melvoin. It was written back in the 80's, long before the death of his son.

iloveannie said:

The point here is that it is just speculation. And imo you don't speculate about someone else's emotions about a big tragedy in their life. If the person himself brings up a topic like this, no problem.

dothejump said:

You do when this person is an artist and puts the work out there to be experienced, thought about and discussed.