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Printablerdhull said: DavidEye said: Perhaps we should really be thanking Rick James? In 1981,he was the first artist to openly complain about MTV's failure to support Black artists.
True true...but it was Epics threats to pull their artists from the channel that allowed MJ on MTV. But Rick should recieve credit for being the artists open enough to publicly denounce the station..I read that shit in Random Notes in RS..he called MTV out and also said Vanity 6 couldnt sing but his ladies, MJ Girls "could throw down vocally as well as visually" heh. He's right about the vocal stuff, but the visual... ~KiKi | |
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RainbowPaintedSky said: prince
will always b a better singer and song wrighter and dancer ...man that man can move on stage ...tell me i am right and more talented Micheal Jackson on the other hand is just a wast of time ...i am so tired of him doing the same shit over and over it like watching a re-run over again 4 the 6th time MJ is a entertainer, Prince is a musician. There's a difference, MJ good in his own right. ~KiKi | |
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locoarts said: one day people will all realize that MJ had nothing to do with any early 80's anything.. OR prince OR madonna.
all that time period was .. The Music Industry finally understood the tool of MTV and put money behind Music Videos.. and thats it.. nothing more or less.. They saw how in mid america state kids were buying albums like "Bow wow wow" I want candy.. any other band from europe because of MTV.. The Record Companies saw this ..that kids were buying albums and singles and anything they saw from MTV .. and they decided to put huge money behind next generation of artist (MJ,Prince,Madonna).. I mean come on in 1983-1986 everyone was selling CD's and Merch.. Hughy Lewis and The News were huge? ** the key is what you did AFTER in 1984.. if you were a true musican. as for Thriller yes it is a great album.. but to paint the thing as only an MJ album.. that nuts (quincy jones has come out in many places Charie Rose for one and said MJ didn't write most of it or produce it.. and all through the late 1980's MJ was getting sued and settling out of court for stealing/taking songs & ideas from Demos,ect HE HEARD from Epic) Thats why BAD took so long, because MJ for the first time had to write an album..Quincy Jones said all this NOT me.. QJ said all this on Charlie Rose/Magazine Interviews.. 1984 was a time period.. and thats it..almost anyone on MTV was huge and sold.. and it will never happen again, because it was the first time the roecord companies realized that MTV was a money maker. Half is right and the other half is wrong. MJ and Prince (and a few significantothers) did make the industry change with MTV showing them specifically. You didn't see ten million in sales for Nightranger--..Sister Christian my ass(although its a tuff song)..you didn't see Journey sell even 5 mil of Separate ways-Frontiers...you didnt see 10 mil in sales for Kajagoo-goo-(I cant say that bands name in person to anyone even though they broke shit dow with that bass and singing on Too Shy). So yes..MJ and Prince made shit more interesting on MTV and got muthafuckas out into record stores buying ALL types of music. Thus a dominoe effect or trickle down effect in that the Recod Companies were able to support and create other acts etc etc...it was more than just putting money into videos for quality ...because you could put all the money behind a Heuy Lewis, Asia, or Jodie Watley song and they still would never sell 40 mil of an album. . [This message was edited Thu Dec 5 16:56:44 PST 2002 by rdhull] "Climb in my fur." | |
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DavidEye said: Perhaps we should really be thanking Rick James? In 1981,he was the first artist to openly complain about MTV's failure to support Black artists. Yep.Rick James was like the Spring board for the NWA's of the World who didn't get alot of Pop Air-Play or much Cross-over like MJ&Prince but people Bought Rick's Stuff&Went too His Shows.mistermaxxx | |
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Thriller introduced a lot of the mainstream into black music artists etc. .[/quote]
So are you saying that the Mainsteam is a bunch of Racist Jerks? Are that Prince opened their minds and their eyes to a more complete music world? I think that is what you said, Peace and be wild. How you gonna get my back when you fronting. | |
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jazzy328is said: Thriller introduced a lot of the mainstream into black music artists etc. .
So are you saying that the Mainsteam is a bunch of Racist Jerks? Are that Prince opened their minds and their eyes to a more complete music world?
I think that is what you said, Peace and be wild. No..I never said anyone was racist or white for that matter etc..mainstream were the everyday record buyers with disposable income...and since you brought it up, Thriller did get some people into buying a more diverse type of music then they would have...dont get mad, its the truth. You had grannies with blue hair buying Thriller. You had folks who wouldnt buy music normally buying music. You had black folks who thought MJ was "sweet" buying his record. . [This message was edited Thu Dec 5 22:29:12 PST 2002 by rdhull] "Climb in my fur." | |
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