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Cloudbuster said: Marrk said: Just fine!
How come you're not on here as much as you were? you always brighten the place up! one thing this place needs is more witty banter. That's very sweet of you to say. 
Partly busy doing other things and partly just needing to take a break every once in a while. That's all.  i took a break for two an a half years, came back and guess what? it's worse than ever! i see a direct link between prince's recent releases and the bitterness of his 'fams', that's what is taking it down the toilet. |
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Marrk said: i took a break for two an a half years, came back and guess what? it's worse than ever! i see a direct link between prince's recent releases and the bitterness of his 'fams', that's what is taking it down the toilet.
Ouch!
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Cloudbuster said: NouveauDance said: I think he was just trying to difuse the situation without losing face.
You know what things are like today, someone is quoted as saying something, it's all over the net in hours of being printed/aired and it becomes this huge thing because it gets quoted and the quotes get quoted, etc. Sure, but I just don't understand why he had to mention the Bible as it suggests something a little... ummm, questionable. For want of a better word. It would have been more reasonable to have just said something like "I'm cool with gays, there's no issue there." I simply can't figure what he was trying to imply, is all. ----- He claims that he was mentioning what the Bible states about homosexuality (stating that it is wrong however, a judging and condemning person according to the Bible is wrong as well. It was quite clear to me what he was trying to say. I have no way of knowing if he was quoted properly. | |
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BSOD said: Cloudbuster said: He's legal, dude. Let's just hit it. Maybe in England 
Besides, he's straight and already a bit slutty. Who said I was slutty?
I used to be, but I'm not anymore. Which doesn't mean I'm not dirty anymore, though! But not with men, sorry. I do wear heels and make-up from time to time and I'm quite liberal when it comes to love and sex, but I would never touch a man in that way. Not out of principles, it just doesn't turn me on at all. And trust me, you could pour beer into my throat all night long (STOP thinking about that when I mention the word "throat" ) and still I would not put my Heidi into one of you 
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Cloudbuster said: BSOD said: wow. You're going to be a very handsome man in a couple of years. You're handsome now, but I don't want to be a dirty old man. He's legal, dude. Let's just hit it.
Seriously, what age do you have to be in your country to be allowed to have sex in general and then to be allowed to have sex with elders? Where are you from? USA? | |
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BSOD said: Cloudbuster said: Right. Any other artist and it's an 'anything goes' attitude. And it's often those who are so quick to defend Prince that also are the first to rip into others. Dude, Prince is so gay it's not even something that should be supressed. I do not think he's a homophobes--just terrible at articulating his religious views out loud. He acts as if every one of his new 'discoveries' is something completely new in the course of mankinds own religious speculations--and his ability to articulate this "new" outlook falters from time to time. His homosexual comments are just like his anti-women comments in that he's not singling them out so much as just trying to sound reformed and smart--which of course makes him soudn stupid. Just be glad he's not Ted Nuggent or something. [Name calling snip - luv4u] | |
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Cloudbuster said: BSOD said: I find the attitude fans take towards folks wanting to speculate on his obvious homosexual tendencies rather disappointing to. Some people just want to know. Why try and hinder that discussion?
Right. Any other artist and it's an 'anything goes' attitude. And it's often those who are so quick to defend Prince that also are the first to rip into others. 
Some of the same people screaming until they're out of breathe about how obviously hetero Our Hero is are the same ones ragging on other artist's perceived gayness. Double standards, thy name is Purple Hippie. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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Cloudbuster said: BSOD said: Dude, Prince is so gay it's not even something that should be supressed. I do not think he's a homophobes--just terrible at articulating his religious views out loud. He acts as if every one of his new 'discoveries' is something completely new in the course of mankinds own religious speculations--and his ability to articulate this "new" outlook falters from time to time. His homosexual comments are just like his anti-women comments in that he's not singling them out so much as just trying to sound reformed and smart--which of course makes him soudn stupid. Just be glad he's not Ted Nuggent or something. Ted, he's a card, isn't he.
Still, the way Prince is heading, the two of them may yet become the best of friends.  "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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vivid said: Cloudbuster said: Sure, but I just don't understand why he had to mention the Bible as it suggests something a little... ummm, questionable. For want of a better word. It would have been more reasonable to have just said something like "I'm cool with gays, there's no issue there." I simply can't figure what he was trying to imply, is all. Sad though it may be, I think we have to assume that Prince isn't cool with homosexuality - his religion is very important to him and according to that we're all going to Hades in a pink rowboat. However, he still wants us and our friends to buy his music. [Edited 2/11/09 9:05am] And that's the sad truth. What boggles my lil mind though is how he expects a fanbase that includes a whole slew of homos to lovingly support him if he's going to be mouthing off about them? I don't think the lil lady has really thought this through to it's inevitable conclusion. 
Prince could use a tad less dogma, and a hefty dose of reality and common sense IMO. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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Lovesymbol2 said: BSOD said: Dude, Prince is so gay it's not even something that should be supressed. I do not think he's a homophobes--just terrible at articulating his religious views out loud. He acts as if every one of his new 'discoveries' is something completely new in the course of mankinds own religious speculations--and his ability to articulate this "new" outlook falters from time to time. His homosexual comments are just like his anti-women comments in that he's not singling them out so much as just trying to sound reformed and smart--which of course makes him soudn stupid. Just be glad he's not Ted Nuggent or something. [Name calling snip - luv4u] Oh god I wonder what this person had to say?
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BSOD said: Lovesymbol2 said: [Name calling snip - luv4u] Oh god I wonder what this person had to say?
I mean, look at the user name! Hey, no prejudices against people with fucked-up user names! | |
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Dave1992 said: BSOD said: Oh god I wonder what this person had to say?
I mean, look at the user name! Hey, no prejudices against people with fucked-up user names! You're cute, Dave. In 2 years, I may start flirting with you shamelessly under my normal user name. Until then I'll refrain from arguing with you because you're cute, and I have very low moral values. Error Message:
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Prince is saying that we all need saving! | |
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I don't know why he sounds sarcastic saying that, but he does.
I love him | |
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BSOD said: Dave1992 said: Hey, no prejudices against people with fucked-up user names! You're cute, Dave. In 2 years, I may start flirting with you shamelessly under my normal user name. Until then I'll refrain from arguing with you because you're cute, and I have very low moral values. Oh lawd! 
And what exactly tells you I am "cute", why do you think so? I'm not cute, I'm big and strong! 
Btw I was referring to my very own user name! | |
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Dave1992 said: Cloudbuster said: He's legal, dude. Let's just hit it.
Seriously, what age do you have to be in your country to be allowed to have sex in general and then to be allowed to have sex with elders? Where are you from? USA? Who cares, get yer kit off....  | |
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laurarichardson said: Cloudbuster said: Sure, but I just don't understand why he had to mention the Bible as it suggests something a little... ummm, questionable. For want of a better word.
It would have been more reasonable to have just said something like "I'm cool with gays, there's no issue there." I simply can't figure what he was trying to imply, is all. ----- He claims that he was mentioning what the Bible states about homosexuality (stating that it is wrong however, a judging and condemning person according to the Bible is wrong as well. It was quite clear to me what he was trying to say. I have no way of knowing if he was quoted properly. So that suggests what? That God hates gays, will condemn them to death but in the meantime "Hey! Come study the Bible with me. It contains hatred for your kind but there's some lovely poetry in it also!" | |
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BSOD said: Dave1992 said: Hey, no prejudices against people with fucked-up user names! You're cute, Dave. In 2 years, I may start flirting with you shamelessly under my normal user name. Until then I'll refrain from arguing with you because you're cute, and I have very low moral values. Lol, I'm starting to remember now how it was like to be a regular poster on the org - all naughty men  The HQ-er formerly known as krokostimpy. | |
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meow85 said: Cloudbuster said: Right. Any other artist and it's an 'anything goes' attitude.
And it's often those who are so quick to defend Prince that also are the first to rip into others.
Some of the same people screaming until they're out of breathe about how obviously hetero Our Hero is are the same ones ragging on other artist's perceived gayness. Double standards, thy name is Purple Hippie. | |
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meow85 said: vivid said: Sad though it may be, I think we have to assume that Prince isn't cool with homosexuality - his religion is very important to him and according to that we're all going to Hades in a pink rowboat. However, he still wants us and our friends to buy his music. [Edited 2/11/09 9:05am] And that's the sad truth. What boggles my lil mind though is how he expects a fanbase that includes a whole slew of homos to lovingly support him if he's going to be mouthing off about them? I don't think the lil lady has really thought this through to it's inevitable conclusion.
Prince could use a tad less dogma, and a hefty dose of reality and common sense IMO. Lil lady. | |
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Cloudbuster said: Dave1992 said:
Seriously, what age do you have to be in your country to be allowed to have sex in general and then to be allowed to have sex with elders? Where are you from? USA? Who cares, get yer kit off.... Although I don't have the same attitude as you, I still like yours  | |
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The Bible? Strong bookclub prince is running. | |
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meow85 said: vivid said: Sad though it may be, I think we have to assume that Prince isn't cool with homosexuality - his religion is very important to him and according to that we're all going to Hades in a pink rowboat. However, he still wants us and our friends to buy his music. [Edited 2/11/09 9:05am] And that's the sad truth. What boggles my lil mind though is how he expects a fanbase that includes a whole slew of homos to lovingly support him if he's going to be mouthing off about them? I don't think the lil lady has really thought this through to it's inevitable conclusion.
Prince could use a tad less dogma, and a hefty dose of reality and common sense IMO. does anyone remember the bit on the ONA tour where he would ask someone what their name was and then poke fun at them and laugh at their name, because in prince's conspiratory "history is a forgery made by the jew and the money grabbing white executives" mindset, their name was wrrrrrong. i haven't heard him make such deluded rants anymore since that tour, perhaps because so many discussions raged because of the lyrics to the rainbow children album. i also loved how he would then pick a woman and ask her if she wanted to be a leader or a follower and when they said "leader" which is what prince had been telling people for 20 years, he would say "naaah wrong answer" and pick someone else to come up and sing a ballad to. 
and still people remained seated at these gigs and thought "oh how cool it is to be huddled so close to prince's ever more insanely religious and borderline racist, gay bashing, obesity ridiculing, dwindling flame"
i have to give him a tiny bit of credit though for jumping on that insane fam with the sand dollar. although perhaps he thought she was gay because she wasn't wearing a ton of make up and had short hair and that's why he yelled at her, who knows.  [Edited 2/12/09 10:48am] and true love lives on lollipops and crisps | |
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IstenSzek said: meow85 said: And that's the sad truth. What boggles my lil mind though is how he expects a fanbase that includes a whole slew of homos to lovingly support him if he's going to be mouthing off about them? I don't think the lil lady has really thought this through to it's inevitable conclusion.
Prince could use a tad less dogma, and a hefty dose of reality and common sense IMO. does anyone remember the bit on the ONA tour where he would ask someone what their name was and then poke fun at them and laugh at their name, because in prince's conspiratory "history is a forgery made by the jew and the money grabbing white executives" mindste, their name was wrrrrrong. i also loved how he would then pick a woman and ask her if she wanted to be a leader or a follower and when they said "leader" which is what prince had been telling people for 20 years, he would say "naaah wrong answer" and pick someone else to come up and sing a ballad to.
and still people remained seated at these gigs and thought "oh how cool it is to be huddled so close to prince's ever more insanely religious and borderline racist, gay bashing, obesity ridiculing, dwindling flame"
i have to give him a tiny bit of credit though for jumping on that insane fam with the sand dollar. although perhaps he thought she was gay because she wasn't wearing a ton of make up and had short hair and that's why he yelled at her, who knows.
[Edited 2/12/09 10:46am] WTF are you talking about this thread is so crap....  Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
James Brown & Michael Jackson RIP, your music still lives with us! | |
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Cloudbuster said: laurarichardson said: ----- He claims that he was mentioning what the Bible states about homosexuality (stating that it is wrong however, a judging and condemning person according to the Bible is wrong as well. It was quite clear to me what he was trying to say. I have no way of knowing if he was quoted properly. So that suggests what? That God hates gays, will condemn them to death but in the meantime "Hey! Come study the Bible with me. It contains hatred for your kind but there's some lovely poetry in it also!" Yep | |
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BSOD said: He's also the guy that said music should be free and is threatening to sue fans for every imaginable thing you can come up with.
I'm not saying Prince is homophobic--what I am saying is take everything Prince ever says in one of his useless, uninformative, interviews with a grain of salt. He probably is against homosexuals. IF Prince is really into his religion, and follows it properly instead of only the things that suit him, of course he's against it. Jehovah's Witnesses are 100% against homosexuality. Prince is either a religious fraud (not following the religion he believes in completely) or he is against homosexuals. You can't have it both ways. But many times people who proclaim to be religious aren't really. They don't follow the word, only what is good for them. That's such a fraud. [Edited 2/12/09 12:13pm] "Don't you think one of the charms of marriage is that it makes deception a necessity for both parties?" | |
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First Off...Why would anyone who is Gay BECOME a JEHOVAH WITNESS or JOIN ANY RELIGION That Says You are Going To HeLL? So you CHANGE for a RELIGION? You were Born Gay and you can CHANGE? And if you don't well you go to HELL? This is NONSENSE as is saying PHONE SEX is a CRIME and well any FEMALE Who Shows Too Much Skin is a Slut asking to be ABUSED. Dancers are Not SLUTS and GAYS are NOT SICK. Many Churches have GAYS IN CHARGE. So are they all going to HELL? I don't know how Prince could be in this RELIGION and Now I realize he was Brainwashed. I think Prince joined this Religion because Larry convinced him and maybe he was Unhappy about losing his Child. I just think they make no sense at all. I think Prince keeps people away mostly WOMEN cause NOBODY IN THE BUSINESS is Going To CONVERT NOR Is ANYONE WITH A CHILD! Why should a CHILD NOT CELEBRATE BIRTHDAYS and HOLIDAYS? I went to school with a JW and she was very sad and felt left out not being able to Participate like the other children. Everyone felt sorry for her. I have to speak my mind because I have been a Prince fan since 1982 and I just think he should really Think about what the DOGMA and Writings are and what is NOT To BE BELIEVED. I also don't think he should FRONT and Bullshit as Much as he Does. I Love Him So Much I want him to SEE How Wrong It Is To Follow This Religion. Look at Michael Jackson? He said the Religion made him Scared and he felt Afraid of Girls. EVERYTHING was WRONG. What are you suppose to Fear EVERYTHING? Nobody is a SAINT. We have one Life and Only God can Judge and well we should all ENJOY and LIVE like It May Be Our Last . Look at our world at WAR! We Must LOVE and Be More TOLERANT as Prince said DIFFERENCES REMEMBER???? | |
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IstenSzek said: meow85 said: And that's the sad truth. What boggles my lil mind though is how he expects a fanbase that includes a whole slew of homos to lovingly support him if he's going to be mouthing off about them? I don't think the lil lady has really thought this through to it's inevitable conclusion.
Prince could use a tad less dogma, and a hefty dose of reality and common sense IMO. does anyone remember the bit on the ONA tour where he would ask someone what their name was and then poke fun at them and laugh at their name, because in prince's conspiratory "history is a forgery made by the jew and the money grabbing white executives" mindset, their name was wrrrrrong. i haven't heard him make such deluded rants anymore since that tour, perhaps because so many discussions raged because of the lyrics to the rainbow children album. i also loved how he would then pick a woman and ask her if she wanted to be a leader or a follower and when they said "leader" which is what prince had been telling people for 20 years, he would say "naaah wrong answer" and pick someone else to come up and sing a ballad to.
and still people remained seated at these gigs and thought "oh how cool it is to be huddled so close to prince's ever more insanely religious and borderline racist, gay bashing, obesity ridiculing, dwindling flame"
i have to give him a tiny bit of credit though for jumping on that insane fam with the sand dollar. although perhaps he thought she was gay because she wasn't wearing a ton of make up and had short hair and that's why he yelled at her, who knows.
[Edited 2/12/09 10:48am] Yup, I remember it all. In all these cases I think it's not so much that Prince hates people--it's that he thinks he's actually more clever than he is. What I love is situations when his preach atitude gets him PWNED, like when he appeared on MTV TRL. Carson Daily gave him a compliment saying, "an the age of plastic music and throwaway music, your music has actually stood the test of time" or something to that affect. Prince then says, "What" really rudely (perhaps misunderstanding him). And Carson then explains that Prince's music had more substance than what was currently being dished out on radio. Prince then says with a really smug voice and face, "I don't suppose you have anything to do with that?" Which in Prince's world, would be the end of the discussion. But not this time. Carson then explained, "Look, I'm like a bartender. I may not like the drinks my customers order, but that's what I'm paid to serve up, and that's what they ask for." pretty much shutting Prince up. Prince just gave a defeated, though still regretfully smug shrug after that. He looked like complete ass on TRL, and he was suppose to be there to beef up excitement over Rave Un2 The Joy Craptastic.
Yeah, his problem isn't his views. It's the fact he thinks his views mean something more significant than his audience or those around him. Try pulling that "be a follower" shit on my Buddhist ass, and I'll be like, "be a light unto yourself--Buddha" asshole! Error Message:
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