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Prince #1, again Prince, Super Bowl XLI
It had been a while since The Purple One had a huge hit, but on that night in South Florida he showed he's still got it by running through his most well-known classics to rave reviews. http://msn.foxsports.com/...to=8443166 Prince was voted the Number 1 Super Bowl Halftime show. Over Michael Jackson, Paul McCartney, Tom Petty, etc..etc. so there beyotch! | |
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I'm not surprised. It was a memorable performance.
The only other halftime shows I remember are the Janet Jackson wardrobe malfunction and that one year where Britney showed up wearing gym socks for gloves (which I guess could also be considered a wardrobe malfunction). | |
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No one has ever tried to argue against the fact that he's still got it live. If he was even a quarter as good in the studio these days as he is on stage, I'd be a happy fan. [Edited 1/29/09 19:42pm] The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
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PurpleKnight said: No one has ever tried to argue against the fact that he's still got it live. If he was even a quarter as good in the studio these days as he is on stage, I'd be a happy fan.
[Edited 1/29/09 19:42pm] Yet your icon comes from one of the Star Wars prequels... some of the worst films of all-time. All three of those films are worse than say... Newpower Soul. "Don't you think one of the charms of marriage is that it makes deception a necessity for both parties?" | |
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I wonder if Springsteen will be able to top Prince's Half Time show. I'm not a huge fan of The Boss, but I have a lot of respect for him as a musician.
I saw Bruce live for the first time last year and was quite impressed. He played a three-hour set with no intermission, and I honestly think he's one of the few people who might be on-par with Prince in terms of live performance. I'm still partial to Prince, of course. "I Was FINE Back in the Day!" | |
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lspear76 said: PurpleKnight said: No one has ever tried to argue against the fact that he's still got it live. If he was even a quarter as good in the studio these days as he is on stage, I'd be a happy fan.
[Edited 1/29/09 19:42pm] Yet your icon comes from one of the Star Wars prequels... some of the worst films of all-time. All three of those films are worse than say... Newpower Soul. Okay the nerd in me has awoken. Listen, I defend Prince's lesser liked albums, such as NewpowerSoul, all the time, so I feel justified in saying this to you: The Prequels were just as successful as the original Star Wars Trilogy. Look at how many thousands of copies Prince's NPS sold and compare that to George Lucas' box office dominance. Furthermore, the criticism leveled at the new Star Wars flicks are ironically the same criticism that were leveled at the Original Star Wars films when they were 1st released(claims of the films being childish,filled with wooden acting, poor script/dialog, and being overly reliant on special effects). If you don't believe me, go dig up some reviews from the late 70's and early 80's...they were mostly mixed. It is revisionist history that says the Original Star Wars films were universally loved and touted as "classic". Bottom Line: Regardless of how much I like or dislike NewPowerSoul, I'll never be able to say that it reached the same level of worldwide success/popularity as Purple Rain. With his Prequel Trilogy, George Lucas matched the success of the original Star Wars and created a whole new generation of Star Wars fans, not to mention that he (again) re-revolutionized how movies are made. So, be a film snob if you like, and let purple knight be a Prince music snob. Also, take a long look at your icon because the film Lolita wasn't nearly as good as the book. PurpleKnight, I am sorry that Prince isn't doing it in the studio for you these days, and I disagree with your assessment. However, that can be a conversation for another time.... [Edited 1/29/09 20:32pm] "New Power slide...." |
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skywalker said: lspear76 said: Yet your icon comes from one of the Star Wars prequels... some of the worst films of all-time. All three of those films are worse than say... Newpower Soul. Okay the nerd in me has awoken. Listen, I defend Prince's lesser liked albums, such as NewpowerSoul, all the time, so I feel justified in saying this to you: The Prequels were just as successful as the original Star Wars Trilogy. Look at how many thousands of copies Prince's NPS sold and compare that to George Lucas' box office dominance. Furthermore, the criticism leveled at the new Star Wars flicks are ironically the same criticism that were leveled at the Original Star Wars films when they were 1st released(claims of the films being childish,filled with wooden acting, poor script/dialog, and being overly reliant on special effects). If you don't believe me, go dig up some reviews from the late 70's and early 80's...they were mostly mixed. It is revisionist history that says the Original Star Wars films were universally loved and touted as "classic". Bottom Line: Regardless of how much I like or dislike NewPowerSoul, I'll never be able to say that it reached the same level of worldwide success/popularity as Purple Rain. With his Prequel Trilogy, George Lucas matched the success of the original Star Wars and created a whole new generation of Star Wars fans, not to mention that he (again) re-revolutionized how movies are made. So, be a film snob if you like, and let purple knight be a Prince music snob. Also, take a long look at your icon because the film Lolita wasn't nearly as good as the book. PurpleKnight, I am sorry that Prince isn't doing it in the studio for you these days, and I disagree with your assessment. However, that can be a conversation for another time.... [Edited 1/29/09 20:32pm] Well spoken and fair enough. The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
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skywalker said: lspear76 said: Yet your icon comes from one of the Star Wars prequels... some of the worst films of all-time. All three of those films are worse than say... Newpower Soul. Okay the nerd in me has awoken. Listen, I defend Prince's lesser liked albums, such as NewpowerSoul, all the time, so I feel justified in saying this to you: The Prequels were just as successful as the original Star Wars Trilogy. Look at how many thousands of copies Prince's NPS sold and compare that to George Lucas' box office dominance. Furthermore, the criticism leveled at the new Star Wars flicks are ironically the same criticism that were leveled at the Original Star Wars films when they were 1st released(claims of the films being childish,filled with wooden acting, poor script/dialog, and being overly reliant on special effects). If you don't believe me, go dig up some reviews from the late 70's and early 80's...they were mostly mixed. It is revisionist history that says the Original Star Wars films were universally loved and touted as "classic". Bottom Line: Regardless of how much I like or dislike NewPowerSoul, I'll never be able to say that it reached the same level of worldwide success/popularity as Purple Rain. With his Prequel Trilogy, George Lucas matched the success of the original Star Wars and created a whole new generation of Star Wars fans, not to mention that he (again) re-revolutionized how movies are made. So, be a film snob if you like, and let purple knight be a Prince music snob. Also, take a long look at your icon because the film Lolita wasn't nearly as good as the book. PurpleKnight, I am sorry that Prince isn't doing it in the studio for you these days, and I disagree with your assessment. However, that can be a conversation for another time.... [Edited 1/29/09 20:32pm] Who cares about box office dominance? Everyone knows the Star Wars prequels are utter crap, and don't hold up in any way to the original trilogy. As films, they're complete failures. They only made money because of the legacy of the original films, and were forgotten immediately. "Don't you think one of the charms of marriage is that it makes deception a necessity for both parties?" | |
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PurpleKnight said: skywalker said: Okay the nerd in me has awoken. Listen, I defend Prince's lesser liked albums, such as NewpowerSoul, all the time, so I feel justified in saying this to you: The Prequels were just as successful as the original Star Wars Trilogy. Look at how many thousands of copies Prince's NPS sold and compare that to George Lucas' box office dominance. Furthermore, the criticism leveled at the new Star Wars flicks are ironically the same criticism that were leveled at the Original Star Wars films when they were 1st released(claims of the films being childish,filled with wooden acting, poor script/dialog, and being overly reliant on special effects). If you don't believe me, go dig up some reviews from the late 70's and early 80's...they were mostly mixed. It is revisionist history that says the Original Star Wars films were universally loved and touted as "classic". Bottom Line: Regardless of how much I like or dislike NewPowerSoul, I'll never be able to say that it reached the same level of worldwide success/popularity as Purple Rain. With his Prequel Trilogy, George Lucas matched the success of the original Star Wars and created a whole new generation of Star Wars fans, not to mention that he (again) re-revolutionized how movies are made. So, be a film snob if you like, and let purple knight be a Prince music snob. Also, take a long look at your icon because the film Lolita wasn't nearly as good as the book. PurpleKnight, I am sorry that Prince isn't doing it in the studio for you these days, and I disagree with your assessment. However, that can be a conversation for another time.... [Edited 1/29/09 20:32pm] Well spoken and fair enough. Obi-Wan is jealous! "Don't you think one of the charms of marriage is that it makes deception a necessity for both parties?" | |
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PurpleKnight said: No one has ever tried to argue against the fact that he's still got it live. If he was even a quarter as good in the studio these days as he is on stage, I'd be a happy fan.
[Edited 1/29/09 19:42pm] True, but you know what, PK? I think it's only been recently that the larger audiences have appreciated his talents as a performer. I've honestly heard people say that they were shocked that Prince is actually a capable musician. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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namepeace said: PurpleKnight said: No one has ever tried to argue against the fact that he's still got it live. If he was even a quarter as good in the studio these days as he is on stage, I'd be a happy fan.
[Edited 1/29/09 19:42pm] True, but you know what, PK? I think it's only been recently that the larger audiences have appreciated his talents as a performer. I've honestly heard people say that they were shocked that Prince is actually a capable musician. Well, that was due to a lack of exposure. Prince himself decided post-Rave to be as unknown as possible. I'm glad he's showing everyone what a musical phenomenon he is. The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
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skywalker said: Furthermore, the criticism leveled at the new Star Wars flicks are ironically the same criticism that were leveled at the Original Star Wars films when they were 1st released(claims of the films being childish,filled with wooden acting, poor script/dialog, and being overly reliant on special effects). This is so true, each film had it's own Jar-Jar. In A New Hope, it was the gay robot. In Empire, the stupid green muppet jedi master and in Jedi,the Ewoks. Yet in each film, the kids loved them, as they love Jar-Jar in the first prequel.
I read a quote once that nicely summed up the backlash that the Star Wars prequels received. It went something like this, '1999 was the year that George Lucas, creator of the childrens sc-fi adventure series, Star Wars, got critically blasted for making a childrens sci-fi film.' I actually love the prequels, they are great escapism and have ground breaking effects. Just like the originals. As for the news, wasn't he voted number one superbowl act a few months ago? Probably a different vote. RIP  | |
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PicassoFace said: I wonder if Springsteen will be able to top Prince's Half Time show. I'm not a huge fan of The Boss, but I have a lot of respect for him as a musician.
I saw Bruce live for the first time last year and was quite impressed. He played a three-hour set with no intermission, and I honestly think he's one of the few people who might be on-par with Prince in terms of live performance. I'm still partial to Prince, of course. If Springsteen plays Working on a Dream, Prince can be quite confident it won't happen! | |
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Who cares about box office dominance? Everyone knows the Star Wars prequels are utter crap, and don't hold up in any way to the original trilogy. As films, they're complete failures. They only made money because of the legacy of the original films, and were forgotten immediately. 1. Box Office is easily the number one success barometer for summer blockbuster type films like Star Wars. Films like that are not judged on critical reception, or awards....it's all about box office. So, ignore it all you want, but when Episodes I-III have such high numbers at the box office..it's from repeated viewings and it is a sign of cultural impact. 2. Your assertion that The Prequels made money based soley on the legacy of the Original Trilogy is highly flawed. Episode 3 was the highest grossing film of 2005...if people had thought the previous two were "utter crap" and "complete failures" then they wouldn't have bothered showing up for a 3rd time. 3. How old are you? Do you have kids? Ask a 10 year old about Star Wars and they'll likely talk to you about Anakin Skywalker rather than Luke. Watch for the Star Wars costumes trick or treaters are sporting..tell me which Trilogy the kiddies are emulating these days. You may want to forget the Prequels, but to a whole new generation..The Prequels are Star Wars. "New Power slide...." |
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That was a fabulous performance... 
the comments beneath the pic of P are a bit disturbing though...   Life Sexy | |
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PurpleKnight said: namepeace said: True, but you know what, PK? I think it's only been recently that the larger audiences have appreciated his talents as a performer. I've honestly heard people say that they were shocked that Prince is actually a capable musician. Well, that was due to a lack of exposure. Prince himself decided post-Rave to be as unknown as possible. I'm glad he's showing everyone what a musical phenomenon he is. Fair points, but even in his heyday, I don't think that status was fully appreciated stateside. Part of that is on him (for choosing not to tour stateside for pivotal albums like SOTT and Parade) and part of that is on American audiences who likely weren't going to support his post-PR tours. The poor showing of the Lovesexy tour is evidence of that. Back then, his US support on the road was commensurate with his album sales. I noticed that changing in the last ten years. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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sarkozyiszeman said: PicassoFace said: I wonder if Springsteen will be able to top Prince's Half Time show. I'm not a huge fan of The Boss, but I have a lot of respect for him as a musician.
I saw Bruce live for the first time last year and was quite impressed. He played a three-hour set with no intermission, and I honestly think he's one of the few people who might be on-par with Prince in terms of live performance. I'm still partial to Prince, of course. If Springsteen plays Working on a Dream, Prince can be quite confident it won't happen! Ain't THAT the truth! | |
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I would die to see P perform live. I still can't get over the fact that this girl I knew said she didn't like the performance, that she would have preferred to see someone else.  I shouldn't have been surprised though... | |
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I'm glad there are people in the world who have taste. That was one of the best performances I've ever seen P do and it was on a global scale. Secretly, I hope Bruce isn't halfway near as great as P, even though I respect "The Boss". P rocks and that performance was proof of that. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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skywalker said: Who cares about box office dominance? Everyone knows the Star Wars prequels are utter crap, and don't hold up in any way to the original trilogy. As films, they're complete failures. They only made money because of the legacy of the original films, and were forgotten immediately. 1. Box Office is easily the number one success barometer for summer blockbuster type films like Star Wars. Films like that are not judged on critical reception, or awards....it's all about box office. So, ignore it all you want, but when Episodes I-III have such high numbers at the box office..it's from repeated viewings and it is a sign of cultural impact. 2. Your assertion that The Prequels made money based soley on the legacy of the Original Trilogy is highly flawed. Episode 3 was the highest grossing film of 2005...if people had thought the previous two were "utter crap" and "complete failures" then they wouldn't have bothered showing up for a 3rd time. 3. How old are you? Do you have kids? Ask a 10 year old about Star Wars and they'll likely talk to you about Anakin Skywalker rather than Luke. Watch for the Star Wars costumes trick or treaters are sporting..tell me which Trilogy the kiddies are emulating these days. You may want to forget the Prequels, but to a whole new generation..The Prequels are Star Wars. The prequels are mindless shit that can't be defended. If you had told me 20 years ago that another SW trilogy would completely suck ass i wouldn't have believed it. But guess what, shit happens. Lucas became a souless corperate scumbag hack who lost any and all creativiy in his obsessive quest for the almighty $$ (but i guess he's not the only 80's person that happened to huh?...). And as for you assertion that "if people had thought the previous two were "utter crap" and "complete failures" then they wouldn't have bothered showing up for a 3rd time", well i can tell you in all honesty i for one never bothered with the 3rd one, not at a cinema, not on dvd and not even when it was played on television. Never saw it. Yes, they were 'utter crap' and 'complete failures', that ruined the entire franchise for me in the nastiest way possible. To what sickening degree did they ruin the franchise? The only kind of horrific comparison i can give would be this, sir: http://www.2guys1horse.com/ .(Not for the squeamish) | |
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FlamingRaindrop said: skywalker said: 1. Box Office is easily the number one success barometer for summer blockbuster type films like Star Wars. Films like that are not judged on critical reception, or awards....it's all about box office. So, ignore it all you want, but when Episodes I-III have such high numbers at the box office..it's from repeated viewings and it is a sign of cultural impact. 2. Your assertion that The Prequels made money based soley on the legacy of the Original Trilogy is highly flawed. Episode 3 was the highest grossing film of 2005...if people had thought the previous two were "utter crap" and "complete failures" then they wouldn't have bothered showing up for a 3rd time. 3. How old are you? Do you have kids? Ask a 10 year old about Star Wars and they'll likely talk to you about Anakin Skywalker rather than Luke. Watch for the Star Wars costumes trick or treaters are sporting..tell me which Trilogy the kiddies are emulating these days. You may want to forget the Prequels, but to a whole new generation..The Prequels are Star Wars. The prequels are mindless shit that can't be defended. If you had told me 20 years ago that another SW trilogy would completely suck ass i wouldn't have believed it. But guess what, shit happens. Lucas became a souless corperate scumbag hack who lost any and all creativiy in his obsessive quest for the almighty $$ (but i guess he's not the only 80's person that happened to huh?...). And as for you assertion that "if people had thought the previous two were "utter crap" and "complete failures" then they wouldn't have bothered showing up for a 3rd time", well i can tell you in all honesty i for one never bothered with the 3rd one, not at a cinema, not on dvd and not even when it was played on television. Never saw it. Yes, they were 'utter crap' and 'complete failures', that ruined the entire franchise for me in the nastiest way possible. To what sickening degree did they ruin the franchise? The only kind of horrific comparison i can give would be this, sir: http://www.2guys1horse.com/ .(Not for the squeamish) You are such a nerd.  Those new movies don't need defending. I just do because I am a nerd too.
The fact that you are passionate enough to write all that and post that link... is enough to let me know that you are my favorite kind of nerd...bitter former Star Wars fan. The franchise may be ruined for you, but millions and millions of Star Wars fans can't be wrong. How old are you anyway? [Edited 1/30/09 17:25pm] "New Power slide...." |
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PurpleKnight said: namepeace said: True, but you know what, PK? I think it's only been recently that the larger audiences have appreciated his talents as a performer. I've honestly heard people say that they were shocked that Prince is actually a capable musician. Well, that was due to a lack of exposure. Prince himself decided post-Rave to be as unknown as possible. I'm glad he's showing everyone what a musical phenomenon he is. Very true. And I've always believed Prince's being "dirty" back in the day didn't help his not being appreciated as a musician. I think quite a few people found it hard to appreciate his talents when he was gyrating in a G string and singing about oral sex and incest. "I Was FINE Back in the Day!" | |
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skywalker said: FlamingRaindrop said: The prequels are mindless shit that can't be defended. If you had told me 20 years ago that another SW trilogy would completely suck ass i wouldn't have believed it. But guess what, shit happens. Lucas became a souless corperate scumbag hack who lost any and all creativiy in his obsessive quest for the almighty $$ (but i guess he's not the only 80's person that happened to huh?...). And as for you assertion that "if people had thought the previous two were "utter crap" and "complete failures" then they wouldn't have bothered showing up for a 3rd time", well i can tell you in all honesty i for one never bothered with the 3rd one, not at a cinema, not on dvd and not even when it was played on television. Never saw it. Yes, they were 'utter crap' and 'complete failures', that ruined the entire franchise for me in the nastiest way possible. To what sickening degree did they ruin the franchise? The only kind of horrific comparison i can give would be this, sir: http://www.2guys1horse.com/ .(Not for the squeamish) You are such a nerd. Those new movies don't need defending. I just do because I am a nerd too.
The fact that you are passionate enough to write all that and post that link... is enough to let me know that you are my favorite kind of nerd...bitter former Star Wars fan. The franchise may be ruined for you, but millions and millions of Star Wars fans can't be wrong. How old are you anyway? [Edited 1/30/09 17:25pm] Nah dude, i grew up. Grew up and saw thru Lucas as the souless, sellout corporate hack that he's become pushing his glossy, empty McStarWars product for the mindless masses such as yourself 
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FlamingRaindrop said: skywalker said: You are such a nerd. Those new movies don't need defending. I just do because I am a nerd too.
The fact that you are passionate enough to write all that and post that link... is enough to let me know that you are my favorite kind of nerd...bitter former Star Wars fan. The franchise may be ruined for you, but millions and millions of Star Wars fans can't be wrong. How old are you anyway? [Edited 1/30/09 17:25pm] Nah dude, i grew up. Grew up and saw thru Lucas as the souless, sellout corporate hack that he's become pushing his glossy, empty McStarWars product for the mindless masses such as yourself
. [Edited 1/30/09 20:25pm] Mindless masses? Ouch. No need to get nasty You grew up? Maybe that's the problem. You sound like my grandpa when he watched the original film...and that's okay.
Star Wars was always always always super commercial and geared towards the young. It was the first fuckin' movie to make big money off of it's toy line. So don't act like you didn't go to school with a bunch of kids who brought their Han Solo lunch boxes to the table, or that you didn't play with any Darth Vader toys back when "Lucas was pure", or some shit like that. You make it seem like Star Wars and George Lucas were all about " the art" when you were younger, and now it's just commercialism. The truth isStar Wars is the same as it ever was--for the masses/kids, commercial, and fun. Contrary to what you are suggesting, George Lucas didn't just start "selling" Star Wars with these new films he's been "selling it" since 1977. They had happy meals and breakfast cereal in the early 80's...I ate them, and am willing to bet you did too. Anyways, congrats on growing up. "New Power slide...." |
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Anxiety said: i think we all should be extra mindful of the differences between opinion and fact, and in so doing try our best not to confuse one for the other.
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