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Thread started 03/02/09 12:47pm

Jatrig

Prince is just TIRED

Prince is now just some "hits" performer (albeit maybe the best live performer around) who can only draw crowds to hear his old hits sprinkled with some cover-tunes or medleys. His studio output is beyond lame, uninspired, and tired -- who goes to Prince's concerts hoping to hear "get on the boat" or "life of the party" or any song put out in the last ten years - - I don't think many. Remember back in 1988, people would go to the shows hoping to hear his 1987 music. In 1990, people would wanna hear "alphabet street" put out just a year prior. Not so w/ Prince today.

While radiohead, or similar groups, may not have the raw live-performance talent Prince does -- because they make relevant, new, interesting music - their live performances benefit. Prince can be the best performer in the world - but his using his talents on tired hits and lame covers diminishes his live shows - even if technically they're on point.

Yes, he can't escape people wanting to hear the hits - it goes with being a legend, but he can make new music people want to hear (remember his 1994-1997 tours) - if he just can't anymore, maybe it's just something I as a Prince fan need to accept.
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Reply #1 posted 03/02/09 12:56pm

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you have no clue when you say he hasn't made good music for 10 years ; fucking bullshit

and why bother to go to this place here then

just to bitch and whine ? rolleyes
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Reply #2 posted 03/02/09 12:57pm

pardonme4livin

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quit your whining fuck off


spit falloff

popcorn
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Reply #3 posted 03/02/09 12:59pm

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Jatrig said:

Prince is now just some "hits" performer (albeit maybe the best live performer around) who can only draw crowds to hear his old hits sprinkled with some cover-tunes or medleys. His studio output is beyond lame, uninspired, and tired -- who goes to Prince's concerts hoping to hear "get on the boat" or "life of the party" or any song put out in the last ten years - - I don't think many. Remember back in 1988, people would go to the shows hoping to hear his 1987 music. In 1990, people would wanna hear "alphabet street" put out just a year prior. Not so w/ Prince today.

While radiohead, or similar groups, may not have the raw live-performance talent Prince does -- because they make relevant, new, interesting music - their live performances benefit. Prince can be the best performer in the world - but his using his talents on tired hits and lame covers diminishes his live shows - even if technically they're on point.

Yes, he can't escape people wanting to hear the hits - it goes with being a legend, but he can make new music people want to hear (remember his 1994-1997 tours) - if he just can't anymore, maybe it's just something I as a Prince fan need to accept.



What you just wrote is what's tired. After ten years of this subject matter cant YOU come up with something new?

I mean some of this shit is so redundant(not that it means its all true) but dont you read? I mean you just added post one million and one regarding "Prince keeps playing the hits"

Stuck in BVH-land rolleyes
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Reply #4 posted 03/02/09 1:05pm

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um, i would kill for a concert full of recent stuff. infact, they were my highlights at the o2!
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Reply #5 posted 03/02/09 1:07pm

mzkqueen03

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...this thread is tired grandpa
..mzsexybaby lol
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #6 posted 03/02/09 1:07pm

amorbella

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Jatrig said:

Prince is now just some "hits" performer (albeit maybe the maybe it's just something I as a Prince fan need to accept.



confuse your a Prince fan?
When was the last time you went to a Prince concert?
Say it's just a dream...
U open up ur eyes and come 2 realize
u simply imagined this
So u lean over and give her a kiss
Here on earth, here on earth,
with u it's not so bad
Here on earth, here on earth
eye don't feel so sad
Stay right here
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Reply #7 posted 03/02/09 1:09pm

purplecam

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Jatrig said:

Prince is now just some "hits" performer (albeit maybe the best live performer around) who can only draw crowds to hear his old hits sprinkled with some cover-tunes or medleys. His studio output is beyond lame, uninspired, and tired -- who goes to Prince's concerts hoping to hear "get on the boat" or "life of the party" or any song put out in the last ten years - - I don't think many. Remember back in 1988, people would go to the shows hoping to hear his 1987 music. In 1990, people would wanna hear "alphabet street" put out just a year prior. Not so w/ Prince today.

While radiohead, or similar groups, may not have the raw live-performance talent Prince does -- because they make relevant, new, interesting music - their live performances benefit. Prince can be the best performer in the world - but his using his talents on tired hits and lame covers diminishes his live shows - even if technically they're on point.

Yes, he can't escape people wanting to hear the hits - it goes with being a legend, but he can make new music people want to hear (remember his 1994-1997 tours) - if he just can't anymore, maybe it's just something I as a Prince fan need to accept.

If there's anyone in here who's tired it's YOU. Go to sleep baby boy!
[Edited 3/2/09 13:10pm]
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #8 posted 03/02/09 1:10pm

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Tired? ... he has a career of 30 years on his back, creating thousands of songs, music and lyrics, over the years... between thousands criticism of fans or "enemies" How would you feel like ?
Forever in my life...
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Reply #9 posted 03/02/09 1:31pm

NoVideo

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I'm tired, but that's cuz I stayed up too late last night listening to some of the great and voluminous Prince material that he's released in the last 10 years.

I really need to get more sleep cool
* * *

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The Deluxe 'Purple Rain' Reissue

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Reply #10 posted 03/02/09 1:38pm

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Jatrig said:

Prince is now just some "hits" performer (albeit maybe the best live performer around) who can only draw crowds to hear his old hits sprinkled with some cover-tunes or medleys. His studio output is beyond lame, uninspired, and tired -- who goes to Prince's concerts hoping to hear "get on the boat" or "life of the party" or any song put out in the last ten years - - I don't think many. Remember back in 1988, people would go to the shows hoping to hear his 1987 music. In 1990, people would wanna hear "alphabet street" put out just a year prior. Not so w/ Prince today.

While radiohead, or similar groups, may not have the raw live-performance talent Prince does -- because they make relevant, new, interesting music - their live performances benefit. Prince can be the best performer in the world - but his using his talents on tired hits and lame covers diminishes his live shows - even if technically they're on point.

Yes, he can't escape people wanting to hear the hits - it goes with being a legend, but he can make new music people want to hear (remember his 1994-1997 tours) - if he just can't anymore, maybe it's just something I as a Prince fan need to accept.



i do!!! i go hoping 2 hear more of his latest output more than the hits cause it's a case of been there done that time 2 move on! and as who remembers his tours from 1994-1997 ..again I DO! in 1994 it was the fucking show 2 b at. only a few were complaining about no hits but the majority of us were left with our jaw 2 the fucking floor in awe of what we just witnessed. on the JOTY tour the shows were good but the lack of new material just sucked all the life out it.

as 4 his shows currently, i'm not jumping at the chance of going nor do i get a sour puss on my face cause i can't either afford the ticket etc, it's the simple fact that i do not want 2 chuck down money 2 hear a bunch of cover songs and hardly anything new. when prince decides 2 promote his material like he used 2 do with the live shows consisting of the new material, i'll go, until then ..i could care less where he per4ms
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #11 posted 03/03/09 12:01am

Dayclear

Well then C YA!
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Reply #12 posted 03/03/09 1:09am

rgsince81

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Prince will do what he wants when he wants! And when he feels like it he will come out and snd play. tease
Pray Daily!!!!! RIP AMY WINEHOUSE Keep Calm, Carry on
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Reply #13 posted 03/03/09 1:53am

NouveauDance

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Jatrig said:

Prince is now just some "hits" performer (albeit maybe the best live performer around) who can only draw crowds to hear his old hits sprinkled with some cover-tunes or medleys. His studio output is beyond lame, uninspired, and tired -- who goes to Prince's concerts hoping to hear "get on the boat" or "life of the party" or any song put out in the last ten years - - I don't think many. Remember back in 1988, people would go to the shows hoping to hear his 1987 music. In 1990, people would wanna hear "alphabet street" put out just a year prior. Not so w/ Prince today.

While radiohead, or similar groups, may not have the raw live-performance talent Prince does -- because they make relevant, new, interesting music - their live performances benefit. Prince can be the best performer in the world - but his using his talents on tired hits and lame covers diminishes his live shows - even if technically they're on point.

Yes, he can't escape people wanting to hear the hits - it goes with being a legend, but he can make new music people want to hear (remember his 1994-1997 tours) - if he just can't anymore, maybe it's just something I as a Prince fan need to accept.

This makes me think of the Mashed Potato Girl segue.

"So what are ya eatin' here now for?

"I was so mad, I bought this joint!
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Reply #14 posted 03/03/09 1:58am

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NouveauDance said:

This makes me think of the Mashed Potato Girl segue.

"So what are ya eatin' here now for?

"I was so mad, I bought this joint!

clapping very good analogy ND.
Just somewhere in the middle,
Not too good and not too bad.
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Reply #15 posted 03/03/09 2:02am

Rogue588

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zucris said:

Tired? ... he has a career of 30 years on his back, creating thousands of songs, music and lyrics, over the years...

...and now he's decided to give it a rest and play other people's music in concert.
• Did you first think Prince was gay? •

Wendy: He’s a girl, for sure, but he’s not gay. He looked at me like a gay woman would look at another woman. Lisa: Totally. He’s like a fancy lesbian.
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Reply #16 posted 03/03/09 2:44am

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I don't care what Prince sings I just love seeing, hearing and watching him. He could sing the bloody alphabet for all I care and I'd still be interested!
Sometimes Life is like the post...You just don't get it!
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Reply #17 posted 03/03/09 5:41am

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After reading the stickys on here and all the activities to come u still think he's tired?
Matter a fact, seems like some ah y'all are havin some trouble differentiating the word workaholic from robot.
PRINCE AIN'T A ROBOT. The man is a human being and if he decides to take a 5 yr rest after workin so hard for 30+ yrs then so be it.
Now...word is he's openin his vault --- the same thing some ppl have been bitchin about --- and they can't bitch about it anymore so they're findin some other pointless things to bitch about.
There are other great musicians u know...just go seek em out.
Poor Prince can't get a chance with some ah y'all no matter which way he turns disbelief
I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh
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Reply #18 posted 03/03/09 6:41am

purplecam

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JayJai said:

After reading the stickys on here and all the activities to come u still think he's tired?
Matter a fact, seems like some ah y'all are havin some trouble differentiating the word workaholic from robot.
PRINCE AIN'T A ROBOT. The man is a human being and if he decides to take a 5 yr rest after workin so hard for 30+ yrs then so be it.
Now...word is he's openin his vault --- the same thing some ppl have been bitchin about --- and they can't bitch about it anymore so they're findin some other pointless things to bitch about.
There are other great musicians u know...just go seek em out.
Poor Prince can't get a chance with some ah y'all no matter which way he turns disbelief

If Prince releases stuff from the Vault, you can rest assure that people here are going to bitch and moan about it, you mark my words. That shit is going to happen.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #19 posted 03/03/09 6:59am

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Jatrig said:

Prince is now just some "hits" performer (albeit maybe the best live performer around) who can only draw crowds to hear his old hits sprinkled with some cover-tunes or medleys. His studio output is beyond lame, uninspired, and tired -- who goes to Prince's concerts hoping to hear "get on the boat" or "life of the party" or any song put out in the last ten years - - I don't think many. Remember back in 1988, people would go to the shows hoping to hear his 1987 music. In 1990, people would wanna hear "alphabet street" put out just a year prior. Not so w/ Prince today.

While radiohead, or similar groups, may not have the raw live-performance talent Prince does -- because they make relevant, new, interesting music - their live performances benefit. Prince can be the best performer in the world - but his using his talents on tired hits and lame covers diminishes his live shows - even if technically they're on point.

Yes, he can't escape people wanting to hear the hits - it goes with being a legend, but he can make new music people want to hear (remember his 1994-1997 tours) - if he just can't anymore, maybe it's just something I as a Prince fan need to accept.



I don't care for the covers, Prince has so much music (released & unreleased) that he doesn't have to do that. (Like Allan Leeds said he doesn't fully appreciate his music) I hate having to hear Shelby sing a cover (Crazy) when she could sing: Manic Monday, He's So Dull, or any other song

But I really enjoy all spectrums of his career, the 80's moreso than any other of course.

I also hate hearing them refered to as the hits, its great music, and I hate hearing them performed in a medley: why can't I hear the whole version of Condition of the Heart...it's never been played in it full length. People really do appreciate the ballads and slower songs... was Adore ever really performed in a full version? The Future, Stollin, Uptown, Dance Electric...

Sometimes It Snows In April performed with Wendy at the Target Center 7.7.07 show was about 3:30 minutes. They could have went longer, it was beautiful. I think about a minute and a few sec into the song this lady wails out a cry... and I said to myself "sister I feel you wail on"
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Reply #20 posted 03/03/09 8:21am

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purplecam said:

If Prince releases stuff from the Vault, you can rest assure that people here are going to bitch and moan about it, you mark my words. That shit is going to happen.

Only if each song title is followed with ": the New Master"...
• Did you first think Prince was gay? •

Wendy: He’s a girl, for sure, but he’s not gay. He looked at me like a gay woman would look at another woman. Lisa: Totally. He’s like a fancy lesbian.
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Reply #21 posted 03/03/09 8:30am

wonder505

oh gosh this topic is so tired. Prince will never be the musician you want him to be. its been 30 years. move on to another artist already and forget about Prince. good Lord.
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Reply #22 posted 03/03/09 8:33am

purplecam

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wonder505 said:

oh gosh this topic is so tired. Prince will never be the musician you want him to be. its been 30 years. move on to another artist already and forget about Prince. good Lord.

You know what's so sad about this. A lot of these idiots who think he's "tired" won't be going anywhere and before you know it, they'll be giving us a review of Lotusflow3r at the end of the month. The same broken record keeps on spinning and spinning and spinning...
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #23 posted 03/03/09 8:42am

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purplecam said:

JayJai said:

After reading the stickys on here and all the activities to come u still think he's tired?
Matter a fact, seems like some ah y'all are havin some trouble differentiating the word workaholic from robot.
PRINCE AIN'T A ROBOT. The man is a human being and if he decides to take a 5 yr rest after workin so hard for 30+ yrs then so be it.
Now...word is he's openin his vault --- the same thing some ppl have been bitchin about --- and they can't bitch about it anymore so they're findin some other pointless things to bitch about.
There are other great musicians u know...just go seek em out.
Poor Prince can't get a chance with some ah y'all no matter which way he turns disbelief

If Prince releases stuff from the Vault, you can rest assure that people here are going to bitch and moan about it, you mark my words. That shit is going to happen.


and if they do? then what? i can tell what they might complain about and it's going 2 b the same thing about these "video's" on lotus, the cursing will b bleeped etc cause of the era the music was recorded in. u know this
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #24 posted 03/03/09 8:54am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

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I don't care for the covers, Prince has so much music (released & unreleased) that he doesn't have to do that. (Like Allan Leeds said he doesn't fully appreciate his music) I hate having to hear Shelby sing a cover (Crazy) when she could sing: Manic Monday, He's So Dull, or any other song

But I really enjoy all spectrums of his career, the 80's moreso than any other of course.

I also hate hearing them refered to as the hits, its great music, and I hate hearing them performed in a medley: why can't I hear the whole version of Condition of the Heart...it's never been played in it full length. People really do appreciate the ballads and slower songs... was Adore ever really performed in a full version? The Future, Stollin, Uptown, Dance Electric...



here is the answer 2 ur questions then i would like 4 u 2 answer my question afterward please

the songs r referred 2 the hits by prince himself..hence y the compilation the hits/b-sides was titled.

there has never been a "full" live version of condition of the heart and y should there b? u want the intro 2 the song 2 b played live or something?

the future was played on the nude tour full version

strollin has been played with using 2 of the 3 versus which is common practice with a lot of bands not just prince.

uptown was done in full during the dirty mind tour rolleyes

and if ur talking about a full version of the dance electric, hmm andre cymone's version is about 5 mins ..so i'm not sure when u mean by full version of this song...

now has the following ever been played at all? joint 2 joint, style, emancipation, hot wit u, so far so pleased, vavoom, love, tick tick bang, new power generation, etc etc...

so when the hits r constantly played where there r tons of other songs that have never had their day in the spotlight, perhaps u get a better understanding y some r sick and tired of hearing the "hits/covers"
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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L4OATheOriginal said:

purplecam said:


If Prince releases stuff from the Vault, you can rest assure that people here are going to bitch and moan about it, you mark my words. That shit is going to happen.


and if they do? then what? i can tell what they might complain about and it's going 2 b the same thing about these "video's" on lotus, the cursing will b bleeped etc cause of the era the music was recorded in. u know this

But that's just it. Where's the cursing? Where's that 5 second guitar riff? Why did he cut out the part in whatever song where Lisa says "Woo!"? All that's going to happen and the complaining will still go on at a high rate. Even those who won't join will complain about stuff on the site that they haven't even seen because they didn't join it to understand why they were complaining in the first place!
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #26 posted 03/03/09 8:56am

unkleg

I went to several of the 21 nights concerts and aftershows, that guy doesn't look tired to me!

This thread is lame.
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Reply #27 posted 03/03/09 9:13am

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unkleg said:

I went to several of the 21 nights concerts and aftershows, that guy doesn't look tired to me!

This thread is lame.


Me too, he was full of energy and on top form. I think he'll still be at it in his 80's and still be doing a bloody good job.
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Reply #28 posted 03/03/09 9:34am

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purplecam said:

L4OATheOriginal said:



and if they do? then what? i can tell what they might complain about and it's going 2 b the same thing about these "video's" on lotus, the cursing will b bleeped etc cause of the era the music was recorded in. u know this

But that's just it. Where's the cursing? Where's that 5 second guitar riff? Why did he cut out the part in whatever song where Lisa says "Woo!"? All that's going to happen and the complaining will still go on at a high rate. Even those who won't join will complain about stuff on the site that they haven't even seen because they didn't join it to understand why they were complaining in the first place!



u had me at the 5 second guitar riff cause in my head i was like ..what song is that from? the closest i came 2 was the part in dance on "where's the bass guitar rift?" falloff

but truly tho, whenever prince announces that he's releases anything live, the "fear" of overdubs, the ommisions of him yelling at the sound crews will b lost.
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #29 posted 03/03/09 9:37am

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unkleg said:

I went to several of the 21 nights concerts and aftershows, that guy doesn't look tired to me!

This thread is lame.



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