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Colonized Mind, sounds like it could be one of Prince's most commercial guitar ballads in years Look like P's on to a winner ....but the song is class....  critics like it..so it might get radio play...? 
New Prince website now streaming three more new songs http://www.musicradar.com...ngs-194402 Lotusflow3r.com gets going Ben Rogerson, Mon 2 Feb 2009, 10:46 am UTC Prince: wearing his web developing hat. View in gallery Having existed in a 'preview' state for several weeks, Prince's new website is now operational. Presumably, more content is still to be added to www.lotusflow3r.com – there's no video at the moment, for example – but you can load up the virtual boombox with three new songs. The first, Colonized Mind, sounds like it could be one of Prince's most commercial guitar ballads in years, while Discojellyfish is a slice of instrumental electro funk. Another Boy, meanwhile, appears to be another cut from current Prince muse Bria Valente. "A fan's dream" The site also features a selection of mocked-up press clippings that contain quotes attributed to fans who were invited to Prince's house to hear him play and look at the new website. "The video section seems like it will be the most talked about – the quality will be a fan's dream," says one. On the subject of the music, he or she claims that "Prince is in a special place now where he's stretching more than in the past". As previously reported, Prince plans to release three albums in 2009 without the help of a major record label. Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
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just hope that the whole publicity campaign ramps up now 2 include tv appearances, like Leno, award shows etc. 'colonized mind' with P in full 'axeman' mode will kill them ! | |
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alexandernevermind1999 said: just hope that the whole publicity campaign ramps up now 2 include tv appearances, like Leno, award shows etc. 'colonized mind' with P in full 'axeman' mode will kill them !
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Commercial? | |
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NouveauDance said: Commercial?
i was thinking the same thing Stand Up! Everybody, this is your life!
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i could see a lot of non prince fans enjoying the song and wondering who it is You're so glam, every time I see you I wanna slam! | |
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I dont know about commercial, but it is by far the best of the bunch.
besides the questionable lyrics, the music is the most contemporary sounding of the bunch, the others sound "funky fresh for the 90's" which is not a good place to revisit | |
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Ugot2shakesumthin said: I dont know about commercial, but it is by far the best of the bunch.
besides the questionable lyrics, the music is the most contemporary sounding of the bunch, the others sound "funky fresh for the 90's" which is not a good place to revisit I agree with you. I REALLY dig Colonized Mind. It is the standout track of what has been previewed. I still listen to it on the regular. The others fell out of rotation after the first week of listening to them. I am least impressed with the MPLS and Bria stuff, though I like the tracks on the Bria singles, especially on Here I Come. Still, I am most looking forward to the Lotus Flower CD. I hope the songs are more in the Colonized Mind vein and less like 4ever. I want to hear Dreamer, the track with Shelby that P mentioned in the USA article and that the radio guys or someone else mentioned as well during this hit and miss publicity blitz. perfection is a fallacy of the imagination... | |
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It's a fantastic track, but commercial? no chance... not with lyrics that dismiss a well supported scientific theory (evolution), or lyrics that reject both the American political system and the record industry that helps produce "commercial" product... no chance in the world.
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This is not commercial. [Edited 2/4/09 0:51am] | |
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thats what i  about this place... all the positivity  | |
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alexandernevermind1999 said: thats what i
about this place... all the positivity How is saying a track isn't commercial being negative? wtf [Edited 2/4/09 13:26pm] | |
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toejam said: It's a fantastic track, but commercial? no chance... not with lyrics that dismiss a well supported scientific theory (evolution), or lyrics that reject both the American political system and the record industry that helps produce "commercial" product... no chance in the world.
Musically it's top shelf. Lyrically it's very naive. Spot on | |
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toejam said: It's a fantastic track, but commercial? no chance... not with lyrics that dismiss a well supported scientific theory (evolution), or lyrics that reject both the American political system and the record industry that helps produce "commercial" product... no chance in the world.
Musically it's top shelf. Lyrically it's very naive. Naive compared to what? It's friggin' genius next to Planet Earth and Resolution. 
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I think whoever wrote that meant to say 'radio friendly'?
Or something I can imagine being played on the radio a lot.  | |
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Um, I don't know what the difference is.
But played on the radio for sure. | |
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i think for prince´s standards this is commercial, but for current radio standards this is way off the mark and not really the type of song you would hear on commercial radio. the Elixer songs were made to be played on radio station and commercial but they are pretty bland to me.
i do think colonized mind is his best song since 3121 and is 100% better than anything on Planet Earth but I also think Crimson and clover is good too and might have legs commercially simply because people will recognise the tune. | |
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Well, with Prince filming his duet with Q-TIP for "Chocolate Box" and "Colonized Mind", I'm sure one of the two will soon make an Impact!
Prince knows what he's doing, expect to hear some new prince music via commercial spots for tv. | |
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DetroitMusic said: Well, with Prince filming his duet with Q-TIP for "Chocolate Box" and "Colonized Mind", I'm sure one of the two will soon make an Impact!
Prince knows what he's doing, expect to hear some new prince music via commercial spots for tv. He's doing a video for "Chocolate Box?"  I am looking forward to seeing what he does with "Colonized Mind." However, I cannot see either of these songs being "commercial" in any way. They do not fit into the current musical landscape, so I fail to see what kind of "impact' they will make. I just think that "Colonized Mind" is a great song regardless of what commercial attention it can garner. I have never cared about the commerical appeal of Prince's music. Most of my favorite songs were never singles or earned little commerical success.
From an analytical view, in terms of commerical succes at this point in his career Prince's best chance for commercials success is Urban AC radio. The reality is that most older black artists are relegated to this format. That's why his biggest commercial single successes of late have fit into this format."Call My Name" and "Future Baby Mama" come to mind when I think of recent "commerically" successful Prince singles. perfection is a fallacy of the imagination... | |
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bellanoche said: DetroitMusic said: Well, with Prince filming his duet with Q-TIP for "Chocolate Box" and "Colonized Mind", I'm sure one of the two will soon make an Impact!
Prince knows what he's doing, expect to hear some new prince music via commercial spots for tv. He's doing a video for "Chocolate Box?" I am looking forward to seeing what he does with "Colonized Mind." However, I cannot see either of these songs being "commercial" in any way. They do not fit into the current musical landscape, so I fail to see what kind of "impact' they will make. I just think that "Colonized Mind" is a great song regardless of what commercial attention it can garner. I have never cared about the commerical appeal of Prince's music. Most of my favorite songs were never singles or earned little commerical success.
From an analytical view, in terms of commerical succes at this point in his career Prince's best chance for commercials success is Urban AC radio. The reality is that most older black artists are relegated to this format. That's why his biggest commercial single successes of late have fit into this format."Call My Name" and "Future Baby Mama" come to mind when I think of recent "commerically" successful Prince singles. At this point, 30 years into his career, does commercial success even matter? He's 50 years old, he's got his fanbase and he's doing just fine. Why should he look for radio success? And why do fans care so much? | |
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Whether or not it's commercial SOUNDING is completely different than its lyrical content.
The mainstream does not give TWO SHITS about lyrical content. If for whatever, it musically resonates with listeners, then it'll be a hit. Simple as that. AND...while I don't agree with Prince and his discounting of evolution in the slightest, the rest of the lyrics aren't really naive. In fact, even with the evolution crap thrown in, this song pretty much reflects the mindset of at least half of all Americans. Yeah, I'm going to pull down my pants and completely poop on the whole concept that this song can't be successful because of its lyrical content. That's just a load of hooee. I think all of us have people in our family we could send this song to, with a lyrics sheet of course so they could understand what he's saying, and they'd all enjoy the hell out of it. Lyrically and musically. Lots of folks think there's no difference between the two parties. Lots of people believe there's a lack of responsibility in America, and that ignoring our children has lead to their lack of respect for each other and elders. My views don't resonate with this song - probably only 20% of its message works with me on an ideological scale, but I respect Prince ability to state his opinions so succinctly, passionately, and through some of the best music he's made in years. Rock on Prince. Mankind does have a Colonized Mind...we've all seen it, let's not deny. It's happening right now with the backlash against the Stimulus Proposal - people who know nothing about economics or how to get things on track listening to those in power who are telling them 'OH!! this is bad for you! You shouldn't like it!' and vice versa, people just choosing to believe that it's good for them. Thanks for making me actually pay attention to the lyrics instead of just jamming to this particular tune. [Edited 2/6/09 14:03pm] I wanna be loved to the 9s, so let me cover your ass with this sheet, and baby, you better stay on the beat! Cause you know the Karma Sutra? I can rewrite it. But, with half as many words. | |
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bleutuna said: Whether or not it's commercial SOUNDING is completely different than its lyrical content.
The mainstream does not give TWO SHITS about lyrical content. If for whatever, it musically resonates with listeners, then it'll be a hit. Simple as that. AND...while I don't agree with Prince and his discounting of evolution in the slightest, the rest of the lyrics aren't really naive. In fact, even with the evolution crap thrown in, this song pretty much reflects the mindset of at least half of all Americans. Yeah, I'm going to pull down my pants and completely poop on the whole concept that this song can't be successful because of its lyrical content. That's just a load of hooee. I think all of us have people in our family we could send this song to, with a lyrics sheet of course so they could understand what he's saying, and they'd all enjoy the hell out of it. Lyrically and musically. Lots of folks think there's no difference between the two parties. Lots of people believe there's a lack of responsibility in America, and that ignoring our children has lead to their lack of respect for each other and elders. My views don't resonate with this song - probably only 20% of its message works with me on an ideological scale, but I respect Prince ability to state his opinions so succinctly, passionately, and through some of the best music he's made in years. Rock on Prince. Mankind does have a Colonized Mind...we've all seen it, let's not deny. It's happening right now with the backlash against the Stimulus Proposal - people who know nothing about economics or how to get things on track listening to those in power who are telling them 'OH!! this is bad for you! You shouldn't like it!' and vice versa, people just choosing to believe that it's good for them. Thanks for making me actually pay attention to the lyrics instead of just jamming to this particular tune. [Edited 2/6/09 14:03pm] Well said, I agree, despite the point of view this is far better than almost anything in the last few years."Lolita" Love" Yikes! ...yeah i much prefer he go a bit deeper regardless if i agree or not. which i dont, but i do like the song. | |
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TwiliteKid said: bellanoche said: He's doing a video for "Chocolate Box?" I am looking forward to seeing what he does with "Colonized Mind." However, I cannot see either of these songs being "commercial" in any way. They do not fit into the current musical landscape, so I fail to see what kind of "impact' they will make. I just think that "Colonized Mind" is a great song regardless of what commercial attention it can garner. I have never cared about the commerical appeal of Prince's music. Most of my favorite songs were never singles or earned little commerical success.
From an analytical view, in terms of commerical succes at this point in his career Prince's best chance for commercials success is Urban AC radio. The reality is that most older black artists are relegated to this format. That's why his biggest commercial single successes of late have fit into this format."Call My Name" and "Future Baby Mama" come to mind when I think of recent "commerically" successful Prince singles. At this point, 30 years into his career, does commercial success even matter? He's 50 years old, he's got his fanbase and he's doing just fine. Why should he look for radio success? And why do fans care so much? If you are asking me this question by replying to my post, you are asking the wrong person. I cannot answer that because as I stated in my post, I have never cared about Prince's radio/chart success. I have no clue why every time a new album is released people starting hedging bets on which song is going to be a "hit," or why in retrospect they talk about which could-have-been singles would-have-been hits. I was responding to this thread from an analytical perspective. Commercial succes does not matter to me at all. However, I just want to hear some good music. I tend to like his music best when he's not reaching for a "hit," hence my sigh at the idea of a video for Chocolate Box with Q-Tip.  [Edited 2/6/09 19:35pm] perfection is a fallacy of the imagination... | |
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bleutuna said: Whether or not it's commercial SOUNDING is completely different than its lyrical content.
The mainstream does not give TWO SHITS about lyrical content. If for whatever, it musically resonates with listeners, then it'll be a hit. Simple as that. AND...while I don't agree with Prince and his discounting of evolution in the slightest, the rest of the lyrics aren't really naive. In fact, even with the evolution crap thrown in, this song pretty much reflects the mindset of at least half of all Americans. Yeah, I'm going to pull down my pants and completely poop on the whole concept that this song can't be successful because of its lyrical content. That's just a load of hooee. I think all of us have people in our family we could send this song to, with a lyrics sheet of course so they could understand what he's saying, and they'd all enjoy the hell out of it. Lyrically and musically. Lots of folks think there's no difference between the two parties. Lots of people believe there's a lack of responsibility in America, and that ignoring our children has lead to their lack of respect for each other and elders. My views don't resonate with this song - probably only 20% of its message works with me on an ideological scale, but I respect Prince ability to state his opinions so succinctly, passionately, and through some of the best music he's made in years. Rock on Prince. Mankind does have a Colonized Mind...we've all seen it, let's not deny. It's happening right now with the backlash against the Stimulus Proposal - people who know nothing about economics or how to get things on track listening to those in power who are telling them 'OH!! this is bad for you! You shouldn't like it!' and vice versa, people just choosing to believe that it's good for them. Thanks for making me actually pay attention to the lyrics instead of just jamming to this particular tune. [Edited 2/6/09 14:03pm] there are major problems with the stimulus plan, so that does matter. it is important that if it is done, it is done right. | |
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I love "A Colonized Mind" but I think it is the wrong choice to be the first
single/video from Lotusflow3r. In fact, I think it is the worst choice of the four tracks that were previewed. I would have gone with "Crimson and Clover" I haven't heard all of "Chocolate Box" so I don't want to comment. I am hoping that he has already filmed videos for other tracks and that these are not the lead-off tracks. I've got a guitar that can part the sea. | |
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I couldn't give a flying you know what whether this song is a commercial hit or not. All I know is that it is one of the best things he is done in a while and the guitar at the 3 minute mark is gorgeous. Yes it is always nice when the rest of the population reaffirms your musical tastes and jumps on the Prince bandwagon, but the older I get the less I care. | |
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It's been a grower for me. Like it very much now, although after the first couple of plays I just felt like "oh well, it's alright musically but I guess new Prince stuff just isn't doing it for me anymore...". | |
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novabrkr said: It's been a grower for me. Like it very much now, although after the first couple of plays I just felt like "oh well, it's alright musically but I guess new Prince stuff just isn't doing it for me anymore...".
This right here is why I tell people not to give up on Prince so easily. His music has a way of creeping up on you and if you don't feel it now, you might feel it later. It could be in a couple of days, weeks or even years but more times than not, a Prince song that one isn't feeling will wind up being your or my favorite song of a certain album or maybe of all time too. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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What really irks me is that it should get radio play simply because WE the people want it to. Not because P has to promote it.
We should all hit one radio station a week and flood it with request to play the song. You know, start a forum thread called "Flooding the Radio" or something, and we give a radio station phone number a week, and we all call request in. We are the org, we are world wide. We could hit radio stations around the world. We are all so full of  here | |
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how come some r quick 2 say they hate auto tunes or how his vocal delivery is this or that on tracks like chocolate box and never b another like me, yet NO ONE talks about how his vocals r treated on this track?
commercial ballad? don't think so ..that would b 4ever ..this song is in the veins of political songs and a "ballad" as a lead off single is the wrong choice 2 do. man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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