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Thread started 12/24/08 1:34am

MattyJam

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Is Prince's version of I'll Never B Another Fool as powerful as Chaka's?

This has to be one of my all time favourite Chaka Khan songs - her vocal delivery is just plain nasty!

I've heard that a version with Prince on vocals is doing the rounds... is it any good?
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Reply #1 posted 12/24/08 2:52am

MattyJam

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Also, does he sing the line "I'll never open my legs again"???
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Reply #2 posted 12/24/08 4:30am

IstenSzek

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MattyJam said:

Also, does he sing the line "I'll never open my legs again"???


yes he does lol
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #3 posted 12/24/08 8:06am

MattyJam

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IstenSzek said:

MattyJam said:

Also, does he sing the line "I'll never open my legs again"???


yes he does lol


I've gotta hear it now...
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Reply #4 posted 12/24/08 8:43am

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IstenSzek said:

MattyJam said:

Also, does he sing the line "I'll never open my legs again"???


yes he does lol


He also sings the rest of the line "...to a man who's insecure."

I think when Prince writes specifically for other people, he sings the demo like it's intended without changing words or gender references. In his version of "I Hear Your Voice", he sings the line "I even bought a new dress, but when I put it on...".

Not that Prince ain't never worn a dress before. smile

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[Edited 12/24/08 8:44am]
"I Was FINE Back in the Day!"
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Reply #5 posted 12/24/08 8:46am

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But to answer your question, I don't think Prince's version is as powerful. P's version sounds like he's just laying down a demo and kinda going through the motions.
"I Was FINE Back in the Day!"
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Reply #6 posted 12/24/08 12:07pm

BobGeorge909

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and all honesty, though this was funny, it's not the same song...
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Reply #7 posted 12/24/08 12:12pm

piepie1976

I like Prince's version. [Homophobe no no no! snip - luv4u]
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Reply #8 posted 12/24/08 10:20pm

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no
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #9 posted 12/25/08 1:04am

mamabeafan

I LOVE Chaka!
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Reply #10 posted 12/25/08 4:04pm

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piepie1976 said:

I like Prince's version. II like Prince's version. [Homophobe no no no! snip - luv4u]


eek
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Reply #11 posted 12/25/08 8:37pm

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nurseV said:

piepie1976 said:

I like Prince's version. I like Prince's version. [Homophobe no no no! snip - luv4u]
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Reply #12 posted 12/25/08 8:47pm

mplsmike

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Chakas with prince's background vocals.. works for me ..
But nice to have his own eversion biggrin
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Reply #13 posted 12/25/08 9:01pm

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MattyJam said:

Also, does he sing the line "I'll never open my legs again"???

Yes, and it's very disturbing to me. I don't listen to that song much.
[Edited 12/25/08 21:02pm]
Some people think I'm kinda cute
But that don't compute when it comes 2 Y-O-U.
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Reply #14 posted 12/26/08 2:55am

MattyJam

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Lemme hear some love for this track... how great is Chaka's vocals on this?
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Reply #15 posted 12/26/08 2:57am

MattyJam

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The way she sings this verse always gives me goosebumps:

This love you need to fade
Leave the best to yesterday
If this only one thing is true
I ain't gonna be another fool
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Reply #16 posted 01/23/09 1:34pm

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I think they're just different. Prince doesn't just lay down a guide. He gives it some aggression, like 'Never!' about 2.44. He wrote it, giving an interpretation of how it sounds in his head.

I prefer Prince singing this song although Chaka's is impressive. I don't think twice about gender swapping of the lyrics. They're just a vehicle for the melody (and thats a Bull for the rodeo-like performance).
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Reply #17 posted 01/23/09 2:03pm

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piepie1976 said:

I like Prince's version. I like Prince's version. [Homophobe no no no! snip - luv4u]


That's one of the most staggeringly, stupid, ignorant posts i've ever seen on here. disbelief
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Reply #18 posted 01/23/09 2:17pm

piepie1976

aww thanks innocent

Marrk said:

piepie1976 said:

I like Prince's version. I like Prince's version. [Homophobe no no no! snip - luv4u]


That's one of the most staggeringly, stupid, ignorant posts i've ever seen on here. disbelief
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Reply #19 posted 01/23/09 5:19pm

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piepie1976 said:

aww thanks innocent

Marrk said:



That's one of the most staggeringly, stupid, ignorant posts i've ever seen on here. disbelief


No, seriously. That is one of the most staggeringly stupid, ignorant things I've heard anyone say anywhere in quite some time. You should be ashamed for saying something so intolerant and idiotic.
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piepie1976 said:

I like Prince's version. [Homophobe no no no! snip - luv4u]


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Reply #21 posted 01/24/09 1:18am

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PicassoFace said:

I think when Prince writes specifically for other people


Prince didn't write "I'll Never B Another Fool". This is one of the songs Prince stole from Sandra St Victor.

See also "Soul Sanctuary". And "Living 2 Die".
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Reply #22 posted 01/24/09 6:44am

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BartVanHemelen said:

PicassoFace said:

I think when Prince writes specifically for other people


Prince didn't write "I'll Never B Another Fool". This is one of the songs Prince stole from Sandra St Victor.

See also "Soul Sanctuary". And "Living 2 Die".


How did he steal "Soul Sanctuary"? Sandra was given writing credit.
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Reply #23 posted 01/24/09 7:00am

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Reply #24 posted 01/24/09 1:33pm

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BartVanHemelen said:



Prince didn't write "I'll Never B Another Fool". This is one of the songs Prince stole from Sandra St Victor.

See also "Soul Sanctuary". And "Living 2 Die".


I've heard the version off Sandra St Victor's website. Didn't she write the lyrics and Prince construct a new melody around them? They sound totally different. The melodies are not the same.
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Reply #25 posted 01/24/09 2:59pm

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spoida said:[quote]

BartVanHemelen said:



Prince didn't write "I'll Never B Another Fool". This is one of the songs Prince stole from Sandra St Victor.

See also "Soul Sanctuary". And "Living 2 Die".


I've heard the version off Sandra St Victor's website. Didn't she write the lyrics and Prince construct a new melody around them? They sound totally different. The melodies are not the same.


Sandra is given credit for the lyrics on this song as well.
Change it one more time..
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Efan said:

BartVanHemelen said:



Prince didn't write "I'll Never B Another Fool". This is one of the songs Prince stole from Sandra St Victor.

See also "Soul Sanctuary". And "Living 2 Die".


How did he steal "Soul Sanctuary"? Sandra was given writing credit.


Sandra came to Prince with a bunch of demos in the hope they'd collaborate. Of course, Prince being his usual ass self, decided to redo the songs overnight, so by the time SSV came back the next day or so, she was confronted with these new versions. That's Prince's idea of collaboration, which SSV didn't agree with, so she left disappointed.

Next thing, those songs start appearing on albums, often with incorrect/incomplete credits.

Oh, and Prince never asked for permission, of course.
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Reply #27 posted 02/05/09 10:11am

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Did Margie Cox also do a version of this song during the MC sessions?
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Graycap23 said:

Did Margie Cox also do a version of this song during the MC sessions?



not that i can recall
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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