I realize that I'm a new orger, but I also realize that more new orgers have come and will continue to come. And it stands to reason that one or all of them will want to discuss this or some other topic that is mundane and asinine to vet orgers.

But that doesn't mean it's necessary to start with the 'oh my god not this again' bullshit. Yeah there could be better things discussed, but there are other things, no matter how tired and repeated, that people might want to discuss too. Just because it's been discussed before doesn't mean it can't be discussed again should someone want to participate.


How many different incarnations of 'What's your favorite Prince song' have there been? More than any other topic, much less any Prince vs MJ topic which I never said anything about to begin with. The fact that we're here on this board having the discussion answers the question already.

People have every right to complain about a topic, but the simple fact that it's already been discussed doesn't mean it won't get brought up again eventually. The jackasses that I was referring to are the people who seem to lose sight of that fact.
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The standout part of that vid to me was when P took off his glove and tossed it into the audience, then whoever caught it threw it back at him. Also how MJ whispered in James's ear, he announced Prince, and Michael bolted.

Amaxx said:

That part is hilarious. The Kid was right fucked up.

I was scared to watch this scene for a long time but then when I watched it, I did this: I don't know what happened to old P but man, he was fucked up! One thing's for sure, he never acted like this on stage again.

purplecam said:

He saw the video and said "Yeeeah, let's not do that again"

bboy87 said:

I can't think of this video without laughing my butt off! Poor Prince.

purplecam said:

But you can't help but love it because it's The Godfather of Soul with his 2 godsons

Prince probably thought "Aww shit, we goin to see JB tonight, let's get fucked up before we go!"

bboy87 said:

I bet the next time he went to see JB, he didn't do that again

methodcal said:

Well, I'd wager that Prince probably freaked the asexual Michael Jackson out on many levels. Talent wise, obviously, but just the raw sexuality that Prince drips (particularly at that time) couldn't have been comfortable. Not to say they didn't have conversations, I know they obviously did over the years, what with the whole Bad thing.

Plus, Michael probably had some delusions he was a better artist, and for a few minutes there, history agreed with him. That quickly changed though, and now it's pretty clear who's playing top and who's playing bottom :p

Truth is Prince shit himself, he was out of his comfort zone. anyone that knows anything about P knows he was vehemantly anti-drugs and drink at this point in his career.

He cracked, Even JB in his autobiography documented this as Prince 'being nervous', next time he saw him, he was ready and more prepared. and he had it down.
Those were JB's words himself.

It was 1983, MJ (as a seasoned vet and in his Motown25 coronation year) was drawing the battlelines with this Prince 'upstart' he'd read about (if only for the next few yrs),

2009 now and still folks just have to make their drug/drunk excuses for P. Why couldn't be in awe of JB and MJ back then?

Why not?

Oh yeah, Prince had to be at a disadvantage, he just had to be. seeing as it was the one time they all shared a stage and it's unbearable P came last. tough!. it happened back then.

long time ago though eh?
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Marrk said:

But Prince and Michael already knew each other. They met when P was recording For You and Michael was doing either Destiny or Off The Wall

Marrk said:

But Prince and Michael already knew each other. They met when P was recording For You and Michael was doing either Destiny or Off The Wall

bboy87 said:

Are you serious? Wow, I never knew that they met 30+ years ago. Damn!

Truth is Prince shit himself, he was out of his comfort zone. anyone that knows anything about P knows he was vehemantly anti-drugs and drink at this point in his career.

He cracked, Even JB in his autobiography documented this as Prince 'being nervous', next time he saw him, he was ready and more prepared. and he had it down.
Those were JB's words himself.

It was 1983, MJ (as a seasoned vet and in his Motown25 coronation year) was drawing the battlelines with this Prince 'upstart' he'd read about (if only for the next few yrs),

2009 now and still folks just have to make their drug/drunk excuses for P. Why couldn't be in awe of JB and MJ back then?

Why not?

Oh yeah, Prince had to be at a disadvantage, he just had to be. seeing as it was the one time they all shared a stage and it's unbearable P came last. tough!. it happened back then.

long time ago though eh?
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Marrk said:

That's right Marrk.

People still going on with this drunk/high assumption. I've never believed that, since like U I know he was against alcohol and drugs. I've always said he was "just NERVOUS," even before I read that quote from JB. U've got pros James Brown and Michael Jackson on stage who've invited Prince up next; of course he was fidgety or clouded from happy fear. Plus, he didn't have his own guitar to play, which I think made him uncomfortable in the very beginning.

But Prince and Michael already knew each other. They met when P was recording For You and Michael was doing either Destiny or Off The Wall

Thx for the back-up, but i get the feeling this will run and run. or the thread will re-appear from time to time for the next 30yrs!

methodcal said:

I don't know who you're calling jackasses but the fact that THIS CLIP is posted every couple of months and the same thing is said. This is a discussion board so someone has something to say, they can say it

you're a new orger so you haven't seen the numerous threads about this clip

bboy87 said:

And this is exactly why the same topics will continue comin up. I'm fairly new, so at times I search the site for sumthin I might want to ask and at other times I ask an orger that seems to know enuff about Prince.

But there's no need to go off on someone just cause they asked something that has been discussed numerous times cause u neva kno, that orger might just be green (not targetin anyone)

I wasn't going off, I was stating the obvious. I always try to lighten the mood by posting some of my many GIFs

Exactly when in 1983 was this? I really have a hard time believing he was just nervous. If you've ever watched a 1999 show its obvious he already had the chops to do a good improv of some sort. And I really think following MJ and being on stage with JB would be motivation for someone like him in that time period to give it his all, not flake out...