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Reply #30 posted 01/16/09 11:10pm

Romeoblu

I think the weakest of the 3 from this album is another boy,, Here I come and the new one are much stronger.
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Reply #31 posted 01/16/09 11:35pm

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wunderlandmine said:

Water you should be B-slapped for posting that POP abomination on this site. lol The shame of it! disbelief

Mayte cant sing, neither can Paris. Bria's voice smokes both of them, fine as they are. The music is better too. The comparison is jus stupid so break tryin to prove a stupid point. Dont make your people hear that crap by postin a link, whats wrong wit you mama? shhh You a paris Hilton fan or somethin? Good LAWD lol



B-slapped? Pop abomination?! HA! I'm not being sarcastic...those lines were funny. lol Why is my point "stupid" though? Just 'cause U don't agree? That's not a good tactic to use in debate, LOL.


But no, I'm not a fan of Paris Hilton's music, and I can't name another song by her. LOL. I'm curious though: Technically speaking, what is it about Bria's voice U hear is so much better than Mayte's or Paris'? Forget Prince's excellent background music; just tell your description of her voice. All of them sound similar in my ears (such as the lightness of their singing voices during enunciation, very little vibrato, and seemingly lacking experience/skill before entering the studio), but maybe your analysis will cause me to hear differently. bringiton
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Reply #32 posted 01/16/09 11:51pm

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You people are doing it again, we just need to CHILL and wait. You cant judge something you barley know lets just calm down about it and wait
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Reply #33 posted 01/17/09 4:41am

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i like it. as i've said on another thread, for some reason i can't explain
it reminds me of ingrid chavez. it must be the vocal phrasing because that
rhythm track reminds me of the funky late 1992 NPG style of GoldNigga etc.

i'm sure this album will be just fine. it's not a prince album so many of
you automatically hate it. especially since it's by someone prince seems
to be very much into at the moment. as if that's reason to bash someone.

her voice sounds just fine to me too. lots of other proteges couldn't sing
their way out of a paper bag. they had distinct voices yes, but often they
were not very good ones. if bria's voice is very good, i don't know but it
is certainly pleasing to my ears.

i'm not gonna pretend because i know i will listen to and love the prince
albums most anyway but i'm awaiting the bria valente album with much more
anticipation than any other protege album since 1985.
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #34 posted 01/17/09 6:05am

ReginaCarman

i think Bria has a pretty voice, it seems from what i heard that it isn't a strong one. And by a strong voice i mean someone like Celine Dion. Now she has a truely strong Beautiful voice. As u can tell i'm a fan of Celine Dion too, i'm not just a Prince fan. smile smile
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Reply #35 posted 01/17/09 6:30am

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Is Bria V. like another Elisa F.?
Tamar's album wasn't released (was it?) so she can't be in this list. sad
Or what actually *is* Bria's position?
Can she be comapred, w.r.t. position, to Tamar, Elisa or any other previous female singer?
Is hse P's pet project, just an outlet for a certain category of songs or what exactly?

About the song: sounds OK, need to hear more.
Why suddenly post a snippet instead of the full song?
Planned or previous naivety?
Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #36 posted 01/17/09 6:30am

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"All this Love," has a nice jazzy sound...I don't like 2 say that a Prince song reminds me of somebody else...yet I think it is a compliment to say that the song reminded me of a "Maxwell," album I used to have...Just a sweet flowing jazz song...

Bria has a pretty voice. cool
"The Lion Sleeps Tonight...
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Reply #37 posted 01/17/09 6:44am

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johnart said:

lezama said:



Well he didn't say it would be... he just said he got tired of waiting for Sade to release a new album. To me that just means something, laid-back and relaxing to listen to. It would be completely lame to try to record an album imitating someone else.


When you say you're bringing out this new artist because you got tired of waiting for Sade to release a new album...To me it means he's selling Bria as she's gonna bring us a fix of Sade vibe.

Nothing that's been released so far even comes close.


I'm not hating on Bria or saying I don't like what I've heard. I actually like what I've heard of this song. I just don't get why he would've thrown Sade's name in there to begin with. I hope to be pleasantly surprised by her album.


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Reply #38 posted 01/17/09 8:24am

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wunderlandmine said:


Mayte cant sing, neither can Paris. Bria's voice smokes both of them, fine as they are. The music is better too.


Co-sign. I wanted to like Mayte's singing because I liked her, but that just wasn't her thing.
Change it one more time..
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Reply #39 posted 01/17/09 8:40am

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WaterInYourBath said:

Technically speaking, what is it about Bria's voice U hear is so much better than Mayte's or Paris'? Forget Prince's excellent background music; just tell your description of her voice. All of them sound similar in my ears (such as the lightness of their singing voices during enunciation, very little vibrato, and seemingly lacking experience/skill before entering the studio), but maybe your analysis will cause me to hear differently.


You're listening to "All this Love", not "Here I come", "Another Boy" or "Home". Thats not an accurate representation of her voice. I can't believe you compared that to that crap Paris song you posted. You must not have your ear-pieces in today. If you listen to all those songs you notice she propably doesn't have a great range, but she does have a good voice, she knows how to sing, there's vibrato when needed and she knows how to make the most of not having a naturally strong voice.
Change it one more time..
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Reply #40 posted 01/17/09 8:42am

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udo said:


Why suddenly post a snippet instead of the full song?
Planned or previous naivety?


Its called knowing that if the entire songs were posted that someone would have them floating all over the internet within a few hours.
Change it one more time..
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Reply #41 posted 01/17/09 9:11am

Aloisio

supercrappy song
In God we trust.
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Reply #42 posted 01/17/09 9:24am

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how can people keep saying 30 seconds constitute a song? confused

the lttle they offered, i liked shrug
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Reply #43 posted 01/17/09 9:55am

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johnart said:

lezama said:



Well he didn't say it would be... he just said he got tired of waiting for Sade to release a new album. To me that just means something, laid-back and relaxing to listen to. It would be completely lame to try to record an album imitating someone else.


When you say you're bringing out this new artist because you got tired of waiting for Sade to release a new album...To me it means he's selling Bria as she's gonna bring us a fix of Sade vibe.

Nothing that's been released so far even comes close.

I'm not hating on Bria or saying I don't like what I've heard. I actually like what I've heard of this song. I just don't get why he would've thrown Sade's name in there to begin with. I hope to be pleasantly surprised by her album.
[Edited 1/16/09 22:18pm]


Agreed. Nothing about Bria's voice brings to mind a Sade vibe. Nothing. When I think Sade I think unique in that it's easily identifiable from other singers. Bria's voice, in my opinion, sounds like she's imitating about 50 other ok singers on the market now. Or for a better image it sounds plastic, canned, no emotion at all. Can she carry a tune-- yeah. But so what. A lot of people can carry a tune, doesn't mean I'm gonna like their singing. Has nothing to do with her maybe or maybe not being P's girlfriend.

Maybe P was talking about the music on the Elixir album was in the Sade mode. Again hard to tell by the small snippets I've heard so far.
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Reply #44 posted 01/17/09 10:46am

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Blah? I really dig the bass. Sounds like a really cool song, actually. I only care about the music, as long as the singing is ok.
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #45 posted 01/17/09 10:53am

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I like the prince like sound it's not horrid at all smile
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Reply #46 posted 01/17/09 10:55am

gyro34

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he should've kept her songs 4 himself! i'm not fussed about her voice at all, i've decided certainly not exceptional.
i can't imagine how she'll cope live - if that ever happens.
prince is a bit mean really, giving these women false hope,
like the pushy parents from idol/x factor..
convincing themselves their darlings have got wot it takes..lawd!

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Reply #47 posted 01/17/09 10:58am

gyro34

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Huh? Who say Paris hilton, thats whack yo. Peep Another boy and Here eye come again. Two full tracks P released that show girl can actually sing. You jus hatin.

Song arrangements is tight, vocals fit well wit the sound.
Prince wrote and produced it. Ya'll makin your mind up on 1 piece of a song. All this love is cool, i really dig what little i heard. All her joints so far is better than anythin i heard on the radio, thats REAL. Smart what he doing. He marketing genious to release em this way. Mad PROPS.

Elixir and Lotus flower, bet, they gon be some tight joints. Watch. WORD fro headbang

You like her singing because you find her sexy. biggrin
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Reply #48 posted 01/17/09 12:24pm

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Genesia said:

I want to know why he made her sound like him? Listen to it...she does!


Very much agreed. It took awhile for me to figure out if it was him or her :p
I wanna be loved to the 9s, so let me cover your ass with this sheet, and baby, you better stay on the beat! Cause you know the Karma Sutra? I can rewrite it. But, with half as many words.
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Reply #49 posted 01/17/09 12:39pm

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lezama said:

WaterInYourBath said:

Technically speaking, what is it about Bria's voice U hear is so much better than Mayte's or Paris'? Forget Prince's excellent background music; just tell your description of her voice. All of them sound similar in my ears (such as the lightness of their singing voices during enunciation, very little vibrato, and seemingly lacking experience/skill before entering the studio), but maybe your analysis will cause me to hear differently.


You're listening to "All this Love", not "Here I come", "Another Boy" or "Home". Thats not an accurate representation of her voice. I can't believe you compared that to that crap Paris song you posted. You must not have your ear-pieces in today. If you listen to all those songs you notice she propably doesn't have a great range, but she does have a good voice, she knows how to sing, there's vibrato when needed and she knows how to make the most of not having a naturally strong voice.



Ear pieces huh....I could give U an insolent suggestion as well regarding what U're hearing, LOL, but I'm not going to get personal like that just because I disagree with U smile ....People get too defensive over folks they don't know.


There was no intent to be offensive when I made those comparisons. All of them can sing music notes apparently, and when I heard Bria I was just reminded of Mayte and Paris. Why is that an insult? They're all just examples of a type of voice, which is not bad, but just not great. Mayte did not sing awfully, but sounds like Bria in "Here I Come" for example. And I doubt U even listened to the link. U just saw the name "Paris Hilton" and got mad, LOL.

I have listened to all of Bria's tracks so far several times. Like I said, "All This Love" contains better vocals than the others, so using the other songs as examples for your defense is not going to work for me. Numerous women with no experience who are not tone-deaf can sing like that. And if Bria "doesn't have a great range" or a "naturally strong voice," aren't U agreeing with what I've heard? And sure there's "vibrato when needed." I said that first, but in my ears its just minimal in these tracks.


Many people know how to sing music notes, and have "good" voices. But in terms of albums where money is invested, I prefer great, excellent, or unique voices. There are vocalists out now who technically "know how to sing," but many reviews by music experts state that they really should not have record deals. I'm not saying that about Bria yet however, and I will wait to hear the whole album before I finalize my opinion of Bria's voice; I hope the rest of the tracks can change my mind. But in general, unless one has another great talent to display, such as dancing (ex. Mayte) or playing an instrument (ex. Sheila E.), just having a "good voice" is not enough in my opinion when U are being promoted as a "singer" these days.
"You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
"Water can nourish me, but water can also carry me. Water has magic laws." - JCVD
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Reply #50 posted 01/17/09 12:41pm

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Ifsixwuz9 said:

johnart said:



When you say you're bringing out this new artist because you got tired of waiting for Sade to release a new album...To me it means he's selling Bria as she's gonna bring us a fix of Sade vibe.

Nothing that's been released so far even comes close.

I'm not hating on Bria or saying I don't like what I've heard. I actually like what I've heard of this song. I just don't get why he would've thrown Sade's name in there to begin with. I hope to be pleasantly surprised by her album.
[Edited 1/16/09 22:18pm]


Agreed. Nothing about Bria's voice brings to mind a Sade vibe. Nothing. When I think Sade I think unique in that it's easily identifiable from other singers. Bria's voice, in my opinion, sounds like she's imitating about 50 other ok singers on the market now. Or for a better image it sounds plastic, canned, no emotion at all. Can she carry a tune-- yeah. But so what. A lot of people can carry a tune, doesn't mean I'm gonna like their singing. Has nothing to do with her maybe or maybe not being P's girlfriend.

Maybe P was talking about the music on the Elixir album was in the Sade mode. Again hard to tell by the small snippets I've heard so far.



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"Water can nourish me, but water can also carry me. Water has magic laws." - JCVD
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Reply #51 posted 01/17/09 12:42pm

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I'm in the middle with this. It's ok but I'm not jumping for joy with this either. I need to hear the whole thing before I make my final verdict.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #52 posted 01/17/09 1:41pm

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I think it may be right up there with the Beautiful Ones. Wink.
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #53 posted 01/17/09 3:11pm

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Welcome to the world of another failed, talentless protege. Where did Prince find this woman? This is, at best, music to have dinner to and at worst, music worth taking one's own life over. I imagine this flaccid voice and music is what is currently on repeat in the ninth circle of hell. If Carmen Electra was 'the most dangerous woman alive' then Prince's latest female selection is 'the most boring woman alive.'

I'm not sure when Prince lost his hunger and sense of adventure in the studio but this woman is clearly a case of his unchecked ego thinking he can simply waltz into a studio and make 'a new Sade' record. It's pathetic music sung by a pathethic voice. There's nothing here of any artistic merit, it's a lawn full of crap left by a dog that's been eating junk food for a week.
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Reply #54 posted 01/17/09 3:59pm

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WaterInYourBath said:

There are vocalists out now who technically "know how to sing," but many reviews by music experts state that they really should not have record deals. I'm not saying that about Bria yet however, and I will wait to hear the whole album before I finalize my opinion of Bria's voice; I hope the rest of the tracks can change my mind. But in general, unless one has another great talent to display, such as dancing (ex. Mayte) or playing an instrument (ex. Sheila E.), just having a "good voice" is not enough in my opinion when U are being promoted as a "singer" these days.


I agree with your sentiment but I can list at least 20 female artists off the top of my head that just have ok voices but who are signed by major labels. And its not like Prince hasn't done or tried to do it with worse singers (e.g. Vanity, Appolonia, Carmen, Nona Gaye). I say, as long as the someone enjoys the music theres no need to overanalyze it... someone'll either get into it or they won't.
Change it one more time..
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Reply #55 posted 01/17/09 4:24pm

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Wall said:

Welcome to the world of another failed, talentless protege. Where did Prince find this woman? This is, at best, music to have dinner to and at worst, music worth taking one's own life over. I imagine this flaccid voice and music is what is currently on repeat in the ninth circle of hell. If Carmen Electra was 'the most dangerous woman alive' then Prince's latest female selection is 'the most boring woman alive.'

I'm not sure when Prince lost his hunger and sense of adventure in the studio but this woman is clearly a case of his unchecked ego thinking he can simply waltz into a studio and make 'a new Sade' record. It's pathetic music sung by a pathethic voice. There's nothing here of any artistic merit, it's a lawn full of crap left by a dog that's been eating junk food for a week.


Wall, you seem to have disdain for most, if not all of Princes latest music.

Your well thought out colorful illustrations to show just how awful you feel

his music is, makes us wonder why you are a fan at all? If u dont like it,

thats your choice but why continuously post same sentiments in

different words over and over? We already know how you feel and can predict

with some certainty what you will feel about any additional new songs

released. Frankly its hateful banter that negates any form of constructive

criticism and gets rather disappointing to read in every thread. I appreciate

music and having new music to listen to. Some I will like more than others but

I am along for the joyus ride that is Prince Rodgers Nelson. Be it sensual, be

it philisophical, be it spiritual, it is all part of the experience as a whole.

Take it all in or leave it be if it is too painful for you.

Peace and love
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Reply #56 posted 01/17/09 5:23pm

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wunderlandmine said:

Water you should be B-slapped for posting that POP abomination on this site. lol The shame of it! disbelief

Mayte cant sing, neither can Paris. Bria's voice smokes both of them, fine as they are. The music is better too. The comparison is jus stupid so break tryin to prove a stupid point. Dont make your people hear that crap by postin a link, whats wrong wit you mama? shhh You a paris Hilton fan or somethin? Good LAWD lol


i think Paris has a better singing voice than Bria. And Mayte can sing and has a beautiful voice. Just because Bria is on an album today doesn't mean she's better.
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Reply #57 posted 01/17/09 5:30pm

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Wall said:

Welcome to the world of another failed, talentless protege. Where did Prince find this woman? This is, at best, music to have dinner to and at worst, music worth taking one's own life over. I imagine this flaccid voice and music is what is currently on repeat in the ninth circle of hell. If Carmen Electra was 'the most dangerous woman alive' then Prince's latest female selection is 'the most boring woman alive.'

I'm not sure when Prince lost his hunger and sense of adventure in the studio but this woman is clearly a case of his unchecked ego thinking he can simply waltz into a studio and make 'a new Sade' record. It's pathetic music sung by a pathethic voice. There's nothing here of any artistic merit, it's a lawn full of crap left by a dog that's been eating junk food for a week.


i just want to ask, When did someone of influence say that Bria is like Sade?, because she is no where near as Good a singer as Sade. And i've listened to Sade's music plenty to have a worthy oinion.
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Reply #58 posted 01/17/09 5:41pm

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I think she sounds better on this snippet than on anything else I've heard from her.
I actually bought "Another Boy" off ITunes, it's fairly terrible to me, but this one seems pretty good.
I do like "Here I Come" also, but her voice doesn't really do much for me on it. She seems to be able to hold a note (unlike Apollonia), but I'm not seeing anything spectacular about her voice.
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Reply #59 posted 01/17/09 6:03pm

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ReginaCarman said:

i just want to ask, When did someone of influence say that Bria is like Sade?, because she is no where near as Good a singer as Sade. And i've listened to Sade's music plenty to have a worthy oinion.


Nobody of present influence said any such thing. Prince however, said he was tired of waiting for Sade to make a new record, so he recorded this vile music in its stead. I think it's in the article where he said he studies his bible with gay friends.
No hard feelings.
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