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Thread started 11/29/02 8:39am

rdhull

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"It's gonna effect ALL the bands Morris"

I like hearing the old stuff at concerts and the new stuff. The thing is ,I would like to hear the old stuff with the band who played alongside him when those songs were originally created and went on tour with him etc. For example I dont want to hear him do Head with TRC band (I got my wish hehe). I dont really want to hear Rev songs without those members, or Lovesexys songs without that band etc. This is in general speaking because he did do a good job with Strange Relationship and he rocked Mutiny/Controversy last year and some others this go round. But Ive always felt like that with a lot of artists who change their groups line-up. It doesnt feel authentic. At least hes the creator and singer ofthe songs, but when he makes certain albums, the musicians are part of the whole experience of the albums/songs for me. I know it would be near impossible for a myriad of reasons to get all past band members to play certain sets etc., but thats what a real Celebration could be used for. "Sweet dreams are made of this"
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Reply #1 posted 11/29/02 8:55am

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i agree! nod
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Reply #2 posted 11/29/02 11:58am

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You have a point rdhull, however I think that even if Prince reunited with the Revolution to do those classic songs, they still wouldn't sound the same as they did in the 80s. Keep in mind, just as Prince has grown as a musician, so have Wendy, Lisa, Mark, Fink, and Z...they're not in theirs 20s anymore. They've learned a lot since they broke up all those years ago.
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Reply #3 posted 11/29/02 12:29pm

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Personally, I don't want to relive the past. It reduces the performance to a nostalgia act and that's not what I'm looking for. A few nods to the past are fine, especially if you put a bit of a new twist on it, but let's move FORWARD, shall we?

I'm not the same person I was back then. I've grown and broadened my experiences. I want to hear a musician who is capable of taking his experience and building on it, not being stuck in a time warp.

If you want to hear the old band play the old stuff, go listen to the old albums or find a boot of an old show until you are ready to open your mind and hear something outside of the old rut.

But, hey, that's just MY opinion...
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Reply #4 posted 11/29/02 12:57pm

rdhull

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HalluRain said:

Personally, I don't want to relive the past. It reduces the performance to a nostalgia act and that's not what I'm looking for. A few nods to the past are fine, especially if you put a bit of a new twist on it, but let's move FORWARD, shall we?

I'm not the same person I was back then. I've grown and broadened my experiences. I want to hear a musician who is capable of taking his experience and building on it, not being stuck in a time warp.

If you want to hear the old band play the old stuff, go listen to the old albums or find a boot of an old show until you are ready to open your mind and hear something outside of the old rut.

But, hey, that's just MY opinion...


Is that what you think I meant? That I want to go back to the past? I meant that WHEN the old stuff is played that it isn't the same as it being played with the band the songs were created with etc. Geez..you gotta break it down to primary levels with some people..(Oh..and if the Rev, the DM-1999, Lovesxy bands were to tour with Prince again doing separate sets etc you wouldn't go see the show? And dont give me that stuff like you doint like when he plays some of the old stuff..tell that to somewone else who doesnt know better because I aint the one...)
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Reply #5 posted 11/29/02 1:13pm

HalluRain

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rdhull said:

HalluRain said:

Personally, I don't want to relive the past. It reduces the performance to a nostalgia act and that's not what I'm looking for. A few nods to the past are fine, especially if you put a bit of a new twist on it, but let's move FORWARD, shall we?

I'm not the same person I was back then. I've grown and broadened my experiences. I want to hear a musician who is capable of taking his experience and building on it, not being stuck in a time warp.

If you want to hear the old band play the old stuff, go listen to the old albums or find a boot of an old show until you are ready to open your mind and hear something outside of the old rut.

But, hey, that's just MY opinion...


Is that what you think I meant? That I want to go back to the past? I meant that WHEN the old stuff is played that it isn't the same as it being played with the band the songs were created with etc. Geez..you gotta break it down to primary levels with some people..(Oh..and if the Rev, the DM-1999, Lovesxy bands were to tour with Prince again doing separate sets etc you wouldn't go see the show? And dont give me that stuff like you doint like when he plays some of the old stuff..tell that to somewone else who doesnt know better because I aint the one...)


No, I completely understood what you were saying. "If he's gonna play the old stuff, I'd like to hear him play it with the original band." I got that. No need to break it down for me! :LOL:

No, I would not be interested in going to see a reunion show of all his previous band configurations. If I want to see what those shows were about, I'll find a boot of it.

As I stated originally, I don't mind if he sprinkles in a few of his old cuts, especially if he puts a new spin on them and takes advantage of the skills of his current band to take them in a little different direction. To me, live music is a living, breathing thing and has to exist in the present, in the moment-to-moment of the event. As FirstAvenue pointed out, those musicians have now gone on to have other experiences, so even if they did come back together, I don't think the result would be what you might expect.

And, no, I don't really need to hear him play Take Me With U, Purple Rain, Little Red Corvette or Kiss ever again, with or without the original players. Music is a journey and there's too much new ground to cover to waste time revisiting the past.

I'll make one caveat: I'd love to hear him play some of the older songs that he'd never played live before, but I'd still want him to do so with the band of the moment rather than the band of the past.

Hope you don't need me to break this down into more primary levels for you...! smile
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Reply #6 posted 11/29/02 1:24pm

rdhull

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HalluRain said:

rdhull said:

HalluRain said:

Personally, I don't want to relive the past. It reduces the performance to a nostalgia act and that's not what I'm looking for. A few nods to the past are fine, especially if you put a bit of a new twist on it, but let's move FORWARD, shall we?

I'm not the same person I was back then. I've grown and broadened my experiences. I want to hear a musician who is capable of taking his experience and building on it, not being stuck in a time warp.

If you want to hear the old band play the old stuff, go listen to the old albums or find a boot of an old show until you are ready to open your mind and hear something outside of the old rut.

But, hey, that's just MY opinion...


Is that what you think I meant? That I want to go back to the past? I meant that WHEN the old stuff is played that it isn't the same as it being played with the band the songs were created with etc. Geez..you gotta break it down to primary levels with some people..(Oh..and if the Rev, the DM-1999, Lovesxy bands were to tour with Prince again doing separate sets etc you wouldn't go see the show? And dont give me that stuff like you doint like when he plays some of the old stuff..tell that to somewone else who doesnt know better because I aint the one...)


No, I completely understood what you were saying. "If he's gonna play the old stuff, I'd like to hear him play it with the original band." I got that. No need to break it down for me! :LOL:

No, I would not be interested in going to see a reunion show of all his previous band configurations. If I want to see what those shows were about, I'll find a boot of it.

As I stated originally, I don't mind if he sprinkles in a few of his old cuts, especially if he puts a new spin on them and takes advantage of the skills of his current band to take them in a little different direction. To me, live music is a living, breathing thing and has to exist in the present, in the moment-to-moment of the event. As FirstAvenue pointed out, those musicians have now gone on to have other experiences, so even if they did come back together, I don't think the result would be what you might expect.

And, no, I don't really need to hear him play Take Me With U, Purple Rain, Little Red Corvette or Kiss ever again, with or without the original players. Music is a journey and there's too much new ground to cover to waste time revisiting the past.

I'll make one caveat: I'd love to hear him play some of the older songs that he'd never played live before, but I'd still want him to do so with the band of the moment rather than the band of the past.

Hope you don't need me to break this down into more primary levels for you...! smile


and break it down you did!!..but I understand all of that and always have,...I just wanted to make clear that I wasn't wanting a nostalgia act everytime, but that it is always something that tugs when certain jams are played with a new outlook, new people etc. You kind of think of the old folks.
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Reply #7 posted 11/29/02 2:35pm

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rdhull said:

HalluRain said:

rdhull said:

HalluRain said:

Personally, I don't want to relive the past. It reduces the performance to a nostalgia act and that's not what I'm looking for. A few nods to the past are fine, especially if you put a bit of a new twist on it, but let's move FORWARD, shall we?

I'm not the same person I was back then. I've grown and broadened my experiences. I want to hear a musician who is capable of taking his experience and building on it, not being stuck in a time warp.

If you want to hear the old band play the old stuff, go listen to the old albums or find a boot of an old show until you are ready to open your mind and hear something outside of the old rut.

But, hey, that's just MY opinion...


Is that what you think I meant? That I want to go back to the past? I meant that WHEN the old stuff is played that it isn't the same as it being played with the band the songs were created with etc. Geez..you gotta break it down to primary levels with some people..(Oh..and if the Rev, the DM-1999, Lovesxy bands were to tour with Prince again doing separate sets etc you wouldn't go see the show? And dont give me that stuff like you doint like when he plays some of the old stuff..tell that to somewone else who doesnt know better because I aint the one...)


No, I completely understood what you were saying. "If he's gonna play the old stuff, I'd like to hear him play it with the original band." I got that. No need to break it down for me! :LOL:

No, I would not be interested in going to see a reunion show of all his previous band configurations. If I want to see what those shows were about, I'll find a boot of it.

As I stated originally, I don't mind if he sprinkles in a few of his old cuts, especially if he puts a new spin on them and takes advantage of the skills of his current band to take them in a little different direction. To me, live music is a living, breathing thing and has to exist in the present, in the moment-to-moment of the event. As FirstAvenue pointed out, those musicians have now gone on to have other experiences, so even if they did come back together, I don't think the result would be what you might expect.

And, no, I don't really need to hear him play Take Me With U, Purple Rain, Little Red Corvette or Kiss ever again, with or without the original players. Music is a journey and there's too much new ground to cover to waste time revisiting the past.

I'll make one caveat: I'd love to hear him play some of the older songs that he'd never played live before, but I'd still want him to do so with the band of the moment rather than the band of the past.

Hope you don't need me to break this down into more primary levels for you...! smile


and break it down you did!!..but I understand all of that and always have,...I just wanted to make clear that I wasn't wanting a nostalgia act everytime, but that it is always something that tugs when certain jams are played with a new outlook, new people etc. You kind of think of the old folks.


Cool enough! lol
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