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PrintablePurpleKnight said: The problem comes in the lyrics he wrote, which has always been Prince's weakest area as an artist. The One U Wanna C is like a remake of I Could Never Take the Place of Your Man with the romantic anguish replaced with a superficial song revelling in its one-dimensionality ("I like pretty things", "I got a lot of money"). Chelsea Rodgers is another avenue for him to impart his dogma on listeners (how pathetic is it to hear Prince of all people singing about a woman refusing to have sex until she's baptized?), Mr. Goodnight is another insipid rap song that doesn't even care to make sense, and Resolution is about as intelligent as a five year old asking her mother why the world can't just get along. The flow and melody of many a lyric has turned me off an otherwise half-decent track for many years. Guitar is another example of a lazy lyric from Prince. | |
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TheEnglishGent said: I like Right The Wrong, it's fun. I love the first 6 tracks on C&D, then it changes too much IMO. I Rock, is the worst thing on there and I don't like it at all. Nothing wrong with Into The Light and I Will. Then I can happily press eject and skip, Dig U Better and Had U, nothing to see there, move along!
All in all a bit of a mixed bag. Some fantastic stuff and some nonsense. Not his best but nowhere near the worst, (I'm looking at you NPS  ).Don't be looking at NPS like that. Not one of my Top Ten Prince albums. I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. |
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NouveauDance said: Right from the start the hate for Planet Earth has completely baffled me.
I've put it down really to two things - that the album isn't heavy on straight up R&B-pop like the preceeding two albums were. And that the album wasn't promoted to the same extent the previous two LPs were in the USA. C&D has a LOT more fans in 2009 than it did in 1996, maybe PE will also receive the same belated welcome.  Nope.. PE will never become imaginative and creative. It's painting by numbers. I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. |
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NouveauDance said: PurpleKnight said: The problem comes in the lyrics he wrote, which has always been Prince's weakest area as an artist. The One U Wanna C is like a remake of I Could Never Take the Place of Your Man with the romantic anguish replaced with a superficial song revelling in its one-dimensionality ("I like pretty things", "I got a lot of money"). Chelsea Rodgers is another avenue for him to impart his dogma on listeners (how pathetic is it to hear Prince of all people singing about a woman refusing to have sex until she's baptized?), Mr. Goodnight is another insipid rap song that doesn't even care to make sense, and Resolution is about as intelligent as a five year old asking her mother why the world can't just get along. The flow and melody of many a lyric has turned me off an otherwise half-decent track for many years. Guitar is another example of a lazy lyric from Prince. I don't know why he releases stuff like that. He has to know it's lazy and weak. I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. |
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i actually love both albums, I love C&D more but they are different albums. C&D is obviously an angry album where as PE is clearly more focused on themes of peace and reconciliation hence the final track "Resolution".
For me, C&D doesn't have one dud track compared to PE where I always skip over Mr. Goodnight and Future Baby Mama. but nice to see that you are on a Prince Listening Rediscovery Adventure. good luck with that. [Edited 1/12/09 20:34pm] | |
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NouveauDance said: PurpleKnight said: The problem comes in the lyrics he wrote, which has always been Prince's weakest area as an artist. The One U Wanna C is like a remake of I Could Never Take the Place of Your Man with the romantic anguish replaced with a superficial song revelling in its one-dimensionality ("I like pretty things", "I got a lot of money"). Chelsea Rodgers is another avenue for him to impart his dogma on listeners (how pathetic is it to hear Prince of all people singing about a woman refusing to have sex until she's baptized?), Mr. Goodnight is another insipid rap song that doesn't even care to make sense, and Resolution is about as intelligent as a five year old asking her mother why the world can't just get along. The flow and melody of many a lyric has turned me off an otherwise half-decent track for many years. Guitar is another example of a lazy lyric from Prince. i agree on the lazy lyric idea. just like There'll Never Another Like Me. "Jumped out of bed, checked my email to see where the party be". Come on Prince you can do better than that! | |
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NouveauDance said: PurpleKnight said: The problem comes in the lyrics he wrote, which has always been Prince's weakest area as an artist. The One U Wanna C is like a remake of I Could Never Take the Place of Your Man with the romantic anguish replaced with a superficial song revelling in its one-dimensionality ("I like pretty things", "I got a lot of money"). Chelsea Rodgers is another avenue for him to impart his dogma on listeners (how pathetic is it to hear Prince of all people singing about a woman refusing to have sex until she's baptized?), Mr. Goodnight is another insipid rap song that doesn't even care to make sense, and Resolution is about as intelligent as a five year old asking her mother why the world can't just get along. The flow and melody of many a lyric has turned me off an otherwise half-decent track for many years. Guitar is another example of a lazy lyric from Prince. Interestingly enough, I like Guitar. Its lyrics are a bit forced in some areas, but the main line about loving his guitar more is the kind of arrogance I'd missed in new Prince songs. Without trying to sound too self-assured or coming across as mean-spirited, he manages to be a charming paradox again in this song. The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
"You still wanna take me to prison...just because I won't trade humanity for patriotism." | |
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C & disorder was one of the first albums i heard & instantly loved it's energy.
 i like it there, into the light, chaos & dis & fabulous live there's no denying
but must say i admire both albums equally | |
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At least He sounds like He's having fun on Chaos & Disorder!
Planet Earth sound laboured & conceited. | |
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love, love, love "into the light" learned to play that on my piano, great little song! | |
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bleutuna said: I never bought Chaos & Disorder. I missed it when it came out, and by the time I got around to buying it, I'd read pretty much everywhere that it was crap and useless.
So, I never got around to it. I figured it'd just be another disc of uninspired Prince music. In my Prince Listening Rediscovery Adventure 2009, I finally got to listening...and I'm actually surprised. 1) This truly has some of his best guitar work since Purple Rain. I never expected this at all. Some of it's truly rocking. Nothing extremely memorable as far as solos go, but truthfully, Prince may be a great guitar player, but he's not a great soloist. His solos don't stand out like say, those of Slash or Jerry Cantrell or any other rock & roll artist you're thinking of. 2) It's not nearly as bad as everyone said it was. Some of these tracks are better than stuff off Parade or Around the World in a Day. I never expected that. 3) The guitar work, especially on 'I like it there' is damn good. Very, very clean at times, very hard-rocking at others, and without that trademark special brand of distortion that Prince puts on a lot of his guitar work. 'I like it there' stands beside songs like 'Endorphine Machine' and 'Guitar' without a problem - and matches them, in my opinion. 4) The overall tone/feel/attitude of this album reminds me of Planet Earth, except - better. In general, I'm going to be honest and say that Chaos & Disorder is actually more enjoyable than Planet Earth. I'm sad it took me this long to experience it. I've always liked that album. It's killer! Great guitar work. | |
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Amaxx said: At least He sounds like He's having fun on Chaos & Disorder!
Planet Earth sound laboured & conceited. It doesn't sound like he is having fun. It sounds like he is angry and bitter.  Either way, it gave the album a lot of energy, whereas I agree that Planet Earth is a lot more laboured.
 Prince barely even sounds like he wants to record an album in some of his new songs. Too often now are they filled with perfunctory vocal performances. He destroys them live.The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
"You still wanna take me to prison...just because I won't trade humanity for patriotism." | |
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SUPRMAN said: NouveauDance said: The flow and melody of many a lyric has turned me off an otherwise half-decent track for many years. Guitar is another example of a lazy lyric from Prince. I don't know why he releases stuff like that. He has to know it's lazy and weak. i would think that he does know. I think prince releases songs like Guitar cuz he digs that happy go lucky pop fun innocent 'stuff' to get him going(AT Certain Times).. also of course on the other hand he may think it appeals to the masses of non hard core fans. maybe its a two in one deal. | |
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C&D is one of those CD's that I pull out of my collection and have a listen to from time to time, its also reallt cool driving music! PE, after a couple of listens I cant bring myself to go back to it again.
Unlike some people here I havent over analysed or thought about the lyrics THAT much, but I just cant bring myself to listen to PE its so bad, | |
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I don't like C&D. | |
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Teacher said: That's a no-brainer. ANYTHING is better than PE.
let's add also that ANYTHING is better than Planet crap and 1999 the new master  man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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Ugh. Very true. The New Master is just...i don't know what he was thinking. [Edited 1/13/09 11:18am] I wanna be loved to the 9s, so let me cover your ass with this sheet, and baby, you better stay on the beat! Cause you know the Karma Sutra? I can rewrite it. But, with half as many words. | |
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Romeoblu said: The two albums are similar but I think Planet Earth is the better of the two.
Planet Earth Doesn't have anything nearly as bad as Right The Wrong on it and Chaos doesn't have anything on it nearly as good as The 1 U Wanna C. [Edited 1/10/09 13:18pm] i disagree cause nothing on chaos is as bad as all the midnights  and chelsea isn't as funky as i rock there4 i am
tho planet crap has somewhere here on earth and guitar man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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bleutuna said: 'Chaos & Disorder is better than Planet Earth'
Agreed. But as someone else mentioned, that's not saying much. | |
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