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Snake said: PE and C&D are different animals, I usually compare it with the Gold experience. I agree with your review about C&D I got it back then and Loved it the most since PR. T
he media Killed this CD they dumped on it before it was even heard and Prince didn't want it to sell will either because it was under WB contract. PE has it's moment but I don't listen to this alltheway through like I can C&D. Lets compare efferts "Princified" means something we'd expect from him "Classic" means something we all Like "Formula" means a sound he used already "Accpetable" means average prince "Chaos and Disorder" Acceptable "I Like It There" Classic "Dinner with Delores" Princified "The Same December" Formula "Right the Wrong" Acceptable "Zannalee" Classic "I Rock, Therefore I Am" Rosie & Fake shabba made it Corny "Into the Light" Princified "I Will" Princified "Dig U Better Dead" Commercial Corny "Had U" Princified "Planet Earth" Princified "Guitar" Formula "Somewhere Here on Earth" Classic "The One U Wanna C" Commercial Corny "Future Baby Mama" Acceptable "Mr. Goodnight" Acceptable "All the Midnights in the World" Formula "Chelsea Rodgers" can you do the funky chicken? "Lion of Judah" Formula "Resolution" Formula Chaos & Disorder is more sincere to the Prince body of History. THAS SOME BULLSHIT RIGHT HERE..... delores is a classic-a stunning song-that song gets much love here"snake" | |
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true, but both have their good AND not so good moments  . i'll take either any day though   life's a bitch, but god forbid the bitch divorce me...
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optimus said: I 2 brought Chaos and Disorder recently and with listening 2 fans saying how shit it was on here, kinda in a way made me appreciate alot more simply because I listened 2 it with very low- expectations...AND WAS BLOWN AWAY!
I had the same experience when I first heard it, judging by some of the opinions here, I thought it would be a collection of inaudible noises without any melodies, but I actually thought it was a good listen and I preferred it over Come or half of Diamonds & Pearls. Sure, it doesn't have a standout song that blows you away, but it's definitely not the crap some people claim it to be. | |
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Are from different stages of life Forever in my life... | |
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The second half of C & D is kinda iffy for me but I've always liked the songs on the first half. But Planet Earth is average all the way across.
I would put the two at a draw, one isn't better than the other. I also completely agree with Zucris. | |
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If either one of these albums had the full marketing power of the major record labels both would be hailed by the media as classics.
I agree both have shitty material on them but perceptions change according to who is stating the facts. In SPIN Magizine's Best of 1996 they hailed C&D as one of the best albums of the year and then stated that if some unknown artist had done the album everyone would be raving. To bolster my claim to the power of the media, go read ROLLING STONE's review of Graffiti Bridge. |
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Aannastesia2 said: I really really really like chaos & disorder
 Hey, that's my line! 
Except for Zannalee and Same December, they didn't appeal. And the indian vibe of Right the wrong was cool, I really like the beginning. PE... when listening to it in the Eurostar, heading for the O2 in London, I was, I don't know, it didn't tickle at all, except for Guitar. Now, 1,5 years later I find it a better cd, nice songs but in the end they don't stick with me. | |
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Chaos & Disorder is a very good album. Raw guitar and energized anger everywhere, and not a hint of overproduction. The album actually becomes rather somber as it nears its end. The only bad song on it is I Rock, Therefore I Am (because of the unfortunate rap elements in it). The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
"You still wanna take me to prison...just because I won't trade humanity for patriotism." | |
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I like 'Chaos & Disorder' but...
They R different albums from different times, and they R not comparable. "He's a musician's musician..." |
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If anything, Lotus Flower would be a better comparison since it's being vaulted as a guitar-driven work. The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
"You still wanna take me to prison...just because I won't trade humanity for patriotism." | |
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Chaos & Disorder is its own album just like Planet Earth is its own album. Chaos & Disorder is alright. Planet Earth is alright. Not to compare but both of those them are CD's that I don't think about on a regular basis but they have a few songs on there that I dig a lot that makes both CD's worthwhile to have. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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bleutuna said: And, after a quick search on the web, I've found lots of people love this album. Good times. get that link out of there! [Edited 1/11/09 15:59pm] | |
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Chaos and Disorder is in my opinion the best of 90s Prince.
Flawed but a masterpiece nonetheless. 1. Chaos and Disorder 2. Come 3. Emancipation 4. Gold Experience 5. Love Symbol 6. New Power Soul 7. The Truth 8. Graffiti Bridge 9. Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic 10. Diamonds and Pearls | |
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When Prince back is against the wall he pulls out his gutair,this is the case with C&D. | |
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purplecam said: Chaos & Disorder is its own album just like Planet Earth is its own album. Chaos & Disorder is alright. Planet Earth is alright. Not to compare but both of those them are CD's that I don't think about on a regular basis but they have a few songs on there that I dig a lot that makes both CD's worthwhile to have.
I get an urge to hear 'Chaos or Disorder', that will never happen with 'Planet Earth.' There's is no imagination in 'Planet Earth.' I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. |
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Planet Earth was a complete let down for me. Even though I knew it wasn't gonna be that good. Now Chaos & Disorder is tolerable, it has some nice guitar. Had U is a slamin' song. "Don't make me chase u, even doves have pride.." | |
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Dinner With Delores is a perfect pop song. Without all the WB drama, this song would have been a radio staple. | |
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jonylawson said: Snake said: PE and C&D are different animals, I usually compare it with the Gold experience. I agree with your review about C&D I got it back then and Loved it the most since PR. T
he media Killed this CD they dumped on it before it was even heard and Prince didn't want it to sell will either because it was under WB contract. PE has it's moment but I don't listen to this alltheway through like I can C&D. Lets compare efferts "Princified" means something we'd expect from him "Classic" means something we all Like "Formula" means a sound he used already "Accpetable" means average prince "Chaos and Disorder" Acceptable "I Like It There" Classic "Dinner with Delores" Princified "The Same December" Formula "Right the Wrong" Acceptable "Zannalee" Classic "I Rock, Therefore I Am" Rosie & Fake shabba made it Corny "Into the Light" Princified "I Will" Princified "Dig U Better Dead" Commercial Corny "Had U" Princified "Planet Earth" Princified "Guitar" Formula "Somewhere Here on Earth" Classic "The One U Wanna C" Commercial Corny "Future Baby Mama" Acceptable "Mr. Goodnight" Acceptable "All the Midnights in the World" Formula "Chelsea Rodgers" can you do the funky chicken? "Lion of Judah" Formula "Resolution" Formula Chaos & Disorder is more sincere to the Prince body of History. THAS SOME BULLSHIT RIGHT HERE..... delores is a classic-a stunning song-that song gets much love here"snake" Your right? I do love that song and I wish it was a bigger Hit it's so Paul McCartney. I hate that some of his best stuff has been over looked. We all want a big hit again because
we want to relive the Hysteria & Pandemonium we experienced when Purple Rain was Hot. Actually, he doesn't care if it happens again or not. | |
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I like Right The Wrong, it's fun. I love the first 6 tracks on C&D, then it changes too much IMO. I Rock, is the worst thing on there and I don't like it at all. Nothing wrong with Into The Light and I Will. Then I can happily press eject and skip, Dig U Better and Had U, nothing to see there, move along!
All in all a bit of a mixed bag. Some fantastic stuff and some nonsense. Not his best but nowhere near the worst, (I'm looking at you NPS  ).RIP  | |
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People keep replying, 'are from different points in his life.'
Yeah. I get that. But C&D has continually been called a piece of crap, and frankly, I just felt the need to say not really :p If we have to find a Prince album we want to all consider universally as bad, then Planet Earth probably is a better choice. I wanna be loved to the 9s, so let me cover your ass with this sheet, and baby, you better stay on the beat! Cause you know the Karma Sutra? I can rewrite it. But, with half as many words. | |
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But I really like Planet Earth. RIP | |
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CJanssen said: Aannastesia2 said: I really really really like chaos & disorder
Agreed here.
Except for Zannalee and Same December, they didn't appeal. And the indian vibe of Right the wrong was cool, I really like the beginning PE... when listening to it in the Eurostar, heading for the O2 in London, I was, I don't know, it didn't tickle at all, except for Guitar. Now, 1,5 years later I find it a better cd, nice songs but in the end they don't stick with me. chaos & disorder: i always think ppl are too hard on that song,it sends a message out. i like that whole album. planet earth: ive liked planet earth. 2 be honest there maybe 2 songs i dont dig too much. Giovanni777 said: I like 'Chaos & Disorder' but...
They R different albums from different times, and they R not comparable.  exactly what i was thinking!
All bolded comments above what i like. BOLD EDIT [Edited 1/13/09 11:26am] | |
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Chaos is listed on my profile here as one of my favorite Prince albums. I don't care how many people dog it. I won't change my mind. I love the rock and blues like guitar all the way through it. "Why'd I waste my kisses on you baby?" R.I.P. Prince You've finally found your way back home. Well Done. | |
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purplefingers said: When Prince's back is against the wall he pulls out his gutair,this is the case with C&D.
:swoon: I don't know but this sentence makes me.... | |
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Right from the start the hate for Planet Earth has completely baffled me.
I've put it down really to two things - that the album isn't heavy on straight up R&B-pop like the preceeding two albums were. And that the album wasn't promoted to the same extent the previous two LPs were in the USA. C&D has a LOT more fans in 2009 than it did in 1996, maybe PE will also receive the same belated welcome.  | |
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NouveauDance said: Right from the start the hate for Planet Earth has completely baffled me.
I've put it down really to two things - that the album isn't heavy on straight up R&B-pop like the preceeding two albums were. And that the album wasn't promoted to the same extent the previous two LPs were in the USA. C&D has a LOT more fans in 2009 than it did in 1996, maybe PE will also receive the same belated welcome. Yeah, Planet Earth is not nearly as bad as I used to think. It's a wonderfully produced album; very organic and unimposing. It avoids the mundane sound of Musicology and the excesses of 3121. The problem comes in the lyrics he wrote, which has always been Prince's weakest area as an artist. The One U Wanna C is like a remake of I Could Never Take the Place of Your Man with the romantic anguish replaced with a superficial song revelling in its one-dimensionality ("I like pretty things", "I got a lot of money"). Chelsea Rodgers is another avenue for him to impart his dogma on listeners (how pathetic is it to hear Prince of all people singing about a woman refusing to have sex until she's baptized?), Mr. Goodnight is another insipid rap song that doesn't even care to make sense, and Resolution is about as intelligent as a five year old asking her mother why the world can't just get along. The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
"You still wanna take me to prison...just because I won't trade humanity for patriotism." | |
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I don't think lyrics have always been his weakest suit. I'd say the opposite, actually.
He's just hit or miss. I wanna be loved to the 9s, so let me cover your ass with this sheet, and baby, you better stay on the beat! Cause you know the Karma Sutra? I can rewrite it. But, with half as many words. | |
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bleutuna said: I don't think lyrics have always been his weakest suit. I'd say the opposite, actually.
He's just hit or miss. Comparatively speaking, his lyrics are easily the weakest part of his work. I never said he hasn't written a slew of songs with fantastic lyrics because he definitely has. The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
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I liked them both at the time of release - wow the controversy! But Planet Earth is more polished definitely.
I think the worst song on C&D has got to be I rock therefore I am - that 'rapping', my word! Dinner with Delores is just brilliant, and after 21 nights, who doesn't rate Chaos and Disorder and I like it there? Planet Earth stand out track for me was All the Midnights in the World, I love that. It's a classic. Chelsea Rogers did play well live though, and I really thought it would. | |
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