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GaryMF said: sarkozyiszeman said: The combination of Prince + Sheila E + Miko Weaver or Prince + Michael B and Sonny T or prince + John Blackwell + Renato Neto offered some music as good as anything done with W&L.
Cut the crap please. Their collaboration was great but stop with the myth. Oh really? Name a top 10 song..... damn even a top 40 song he made with Michael, Sonny, John B, Renato??? I'm going by facts dude. You're the one drinking purple Kook Aid. Of couse I don't include Sheila cuz she can do no wrong!  Seriously, at least she and P did Love Bizarre and Glam life which were both top 40.Hits with Michael B. and Sonny T. or while they were around in the Prince camp: - Cream - Gett off - D&P - Money don't matter 2nite - Sexy MF - My name is Prince - 7 - TMBGITW - I hate you - Gold  | |
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EmancipationLover said: GaryMF said: Oh really? Name a top 10 song..... damn even a top 40 song he made with Michael, Sonny, John B, Renato??? I'm going by facts dude. You're the one drinking purple Kook Aid. Of couse I don't include Sheila cuz she can do no wrong! Seriously, at least she and P did Love Bizarre and Glam life which were both top 40.Hits with Michael B. and Sonny T. or while they were around in the Prince camp: - Cream - Gett off - D&P - Money don't matter 2nite - Sexy MF - My name is Prince - 7 - TMBGITW - I hate you - Gold Only the 1st 3 were "hits". The fact you even include the last few on the list kinda shows the delusions you're living under
Also, I will admit I am not 100% sure, but I don't believe there is any evidence that those 2 were particularly influential in the writing or creation of those songs. Compared to, say, the documented (in various channels) influence of Lisa & Fink pre PR, W&L from PR through SOTT, Sheila from ATWIAD through Lovesexy, Eric from The Family though the Madhouse albums etc. From my understanding, Michael B and Sonny and Renato etc. were basically really gifted, virtuoso players but not necessarily influential on his song output. [Edited 1/15/09 17:25pm]  |
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GigaByte said: GaryMF said: Oh really? Name a top 10 song..... damn even a top 40 song he made with Michael, Sonny, John B, Renato??? I'm going by facts dude. "britney spears" grammy winning duo "milli vanilli" i could go on..... "top selling" doesn't always mean the best music Yeah no shit, thanks for the enlightenment. You might as well have listd the entire Billboard Top 20 this year. I get that. The point is, "best" is going to be subjective, so what other metric can we use to compare among Prince's catalog other than commercial success? |
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GaryMF said: EmancipationLover said: Hits with Michael B. and Sonny T. or while they were around in the Prince camp: - Cream - Gett off - D&P - Money don't matter 2nite - Sexy MF - My name is Prince - 7 - TMBGITW - I hate you - Gold Only the 1st 3 were "hits". The fact you even include the last few on the list kinda shows the delusions you're living under
Also, I will admit I am not 100% sure, but I don't believe there is any evidence that those 2 were particularly influential in the writing or creation of those songs. Compared to, say, the documented (in various channels) influence of Lisa & Fink pre PR, W&L from PR through SOTT, Sheila from ATWIAD through Lovesexy, Eric from The Family though the Madhouse albums etc. From my understanding, Michael B and Sonny and Renato etc. were basically really gifted, virtuoso players but not necessarily influential on his song output. [Edited 1/15/09 17:25pm] As far as I remember, I Hate U almost made it into the Billboard top 10. It was number eleven and I´m sure it would´ve been in the top five if Prince and WB hadn´t feuded in the 90s. TMBGITW was a huge success, it was his first number one hit in the UK. " I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?" | |
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GaryMF said: The point is, "best" is going to be subjective, so what other metric can we use to compare among Prince's catalog other than commercial success?
You run into the history problem though, because Prince changed his game after the dispute enflared with WB. Comparing the two eras where his professional objectives were very different from each other doesn't make any sense either. The fact will always remain that P could theoretically have kicked the radio's ass during his media-blackout if he was still playing the game he played up till 1994. But comparing the two eras together as if comercial success would be some determinant, while ignoring the fact that he consciously chose to walk away from that game won't really cut it either. Change it one more time.. | |
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KoolEaze said: As far as I remember, I Hate U almost made it into the Billboard top 10. It was number eleven and I´m sure it would´ve been in the top five if Prince and WB hadn´t feuded in the 90s.
TMBGITW was a huge success, it was his first number one hit in the UK. REALLY?? I dont think I've even heard I hate U except the one time when i got the album. #11 US or UK? |
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GaryMF said: KoolEaze said: As far as I remember, I Hate U almost made it into the Billboard top 10. It was number eleven and I´m sure it would´ve been in the top five if Prince and WB hadn´t feuded in the 90s.
TMBGITW was a huge success, it was his first number one hit in the UK. REALLY?? I dont think I've even heard I hate U except the one time when i got the album. #11 US or UK? US Change it one more time.. | |
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lezama said: GaryMF said: REALLY?? I dont think I've even heard I hate U except the one time when i got the album. #11 US or UK? US Interesting. I'm confused how it was #12 on hot 100 but then they say it didn't really get airplay, (although that would explain why I never heard it). also interesting that St. Paul's brother played on it. From Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Hate_U "I Hate U" (also spelled Eye Hate U) is a song by Prince from his 1995 album The Gold Experience. The track was the lead single in support of the album, released on 12 September, 1995. "I Hate U" was nearly a solo effort from Prince, although he credited Minneapolis musician Ricky Peterson with co-production and arranging, as well as providing additional keyboards. . . . . . . . it reached #12 on The Billboard Hot 100, unlike the last couple of Prince's singles, "I Hate U" was less successful Mainstream/Top 40 radio as it didn't chart on the Billboard Top 40 Mainstream |
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GaryMF said: lezama said: US Interesting. I'm confused how it was #12 on hot 100 but then they say it didn't really get airplay, (although that would explain why I never heard it). also interesting that St. Paul's brother played on it. From Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Hate_U "I Hate U" (also spelled Eye Hate U) is a song by Prince from his 1995 album The Gold Experience. The track was the lead single in support of the album, released on 12 September, 1995. "I Hate U" was nearly a solo effort from Prince, although he credited Minneapolis musician Ricky Peterson with co-production and arranging, as well as providing additional keyboards. . . . . . . . it reached #12 on The Billboard Hot 100, unlike the last couple of Prince's singles, "I Hate U" was less successful Mainstream/Top 40 radio as it didn't chart on the Billboard Top 40 Mainstream oh yeah ur only looking at the POP 100 and not the R & B top singles aren't u? no wonder u really on wikipedia  man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: GaryMF said: Interesting. I'm confused how it was #12 on hot 100 but then they say it didn't really get airplay, (although that would explain why I never heard it). also interesting that St. Paul's brother played on it. From Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Hate_U "I Hate U" (also spelled Eye Hate U) is a song by Prince from his 1995 album The Gold Experience. The track was the lead single in support of the album, released on 12 September, 1995. "I Hate U" was nearly a solo effort from Prince, although he credited Minneapolis musician Ricky Peterson with co-production and arranging, as well as providing additional keyboards. . . . . . . . it reached #12 on The Billboard Hot 100, unlike the last couple of Prince's singles, "I Hate U" was less successful Mainstream/Top 40 radio as it didn't chart on the Billboard Top 40 Mainstream oh yeah ur only looking at the POP 100 and not the R & B top singles aren't u? no wonder u really on wikipedia Do you mean "Rely"??? I don't get what you're trying to say, but I only listen to R&B radio, not Pop radio yet I never heard Eye Hate You in NY the top market in the US. WBLS and Kiss-FM all the way! |
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Ah, come on. Stop comparing Wendy and Lisa with Michael x Sonny
Different times, different world, etc. First, HITS dont usually mean QUALITY Second, the world changed. Prince´s androgyny and over-produced songs werent that welcome in the 90s. Third - the fight with WB ruined any kind of great promotion it could have existed with potential songs. Anyway, I gave you my 2cents about W&L before in this topic. They did a fantastic job in a time on Prince´s career, but I personally prefer (not saying it´s better or worse, just personal taste) the hard funk of Michael and Sonny. Let the past be in the past. |
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GaryMF said: L4OATheOriginal said: oh yeah ur only looking at the POP 100 and not the R & B top singles aren't u? no wonder u really on wikipedia Do you mean "Rely"??? I don't get what you're trying to say, but I only listen to R&B radio, not Pop radio yet I never heard Eye Hate You in NY the top market in the US. WBLS and Kiss-FM all the way! and when eye hate u was released it was on WBLS man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: GaryMF said: Do you mean "Rely"??? I don't get what you're trying to say, but I only listen to R&B radio, not Pop radio yet I never heard Eye Hate You in NY the top market in the US. WBLS and Kiss-FM all the way! and when eye hate u was released it was on WBLS That's cool. I guess I wasn't listneing to much radio then. I prefer Kiss FM usually. Are you from NY? |
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GaryMF said: L4OATheOriginal said: and when eye hate u was released it was on WBLS That's cool. I guess I wasn't listneing to much radio then. I prefer Kiss FM usually. Are you from NY? KISS fm at that time was just sticking 2 classic soul, wbls was the one daring enough 2 still play his current material..now i prefer KISS to wbls cause i can't stand listening 2 wendy williams and her big ass 4head so 2 answer u Q ...yes i'm from nueva york man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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I remember when BLS played "I Hate U" for the 1st time too. Frankie Crocker (RIP) used to play P all the time when he was the DJ.
KISS FM is better than BLS. More of a variety and Felix Hernandez' Sunday Soul Reveue is cool too. | |
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HE should audition (and film it for a reality show).
Get some raw, struggling genius talent from the streets --- hungry, like he used to be. See who vibes, then hire. That would be fire.  | |
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SynthiaRose said: HE should audition (and film it for a reality show).
Get some raw, struggling genius talent from the streets --- hungry, like he used to be. See who vibes, then hire. That would be fire. that would be fun to watch! | |
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SynthiaRose said: HE should audition (and film it for a reality show).
Get some raw, struggling genius talent from the streets --- hungry, like he used to be. See who vibes, then hire. That would be fire. I Love it! It would be like another American Idol, bringing the young people and the ...well,all of us together to watch an amazing show! Wake up!......Wake up! | |
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does anyone else think he won't change his band? In the purple ticket show, it still was the same  | |
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No matter who Mr. Nelson has in his band it is always a new venture into a new avenue of sounds. Billions an trillions into a googaplex of sounds. A river flowing of music that is captured by anyody he works with. Nobody in the world has tasted every dish, so the bands go on...and on (another trip, another menu another grand adventure...)
Personally, I am so very fond of Tadamitsu Saito "It's About Time"... and the mixolation of Jon Anderson of "Yes". Kudos to another trip around the world Mr.Nelson and hopefully see you next lifetime - without all the celebrity hooplah. Caio, Au Revoir, Konichiwa and CHEN CHEN! QuietSeven | |
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His bands are always great and he likes keeping it fresh for new tours and stuff so 'Bring it on'!  | |
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In a 2008 interview with Minneapolis' "Real Rube Radio", Fink implied he may have a new solo album somewhere in the near future. In the same interview, he mentions Prince possibly releasing the unreleased Revolution album, Roadhouse Garden. Also, when asked about a reunion with the Revolution, he said "...if he's [Prince] ready and willing, then so am I." | |
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Although many of the musicians Prince would employ in the future were more accomplished instrumentalists than Wendy, Lisa, Brown, and Rivkin, the creative triumphs of the Revolution illustrate the axiom that in pop and rock music, passion counts for more than musical chops. As musicians (and people), Wendy & Lisa were playful, open-minded, and opinionated - qualities that would be missing in many of Prince's future band members, notwithstanding their technical profiency. "The songs we did with Wendy & Lisa," Eric Leeds noted, "included some of the most wonderful stuff we ever did."
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