RodeoSchro said:

Let's start with Tame and Sexxydancer as the twinz?

pplrain said:

I'll do it...where do I sign? I'll leave my tap shoes at home...Both pairs are rusty.

funkyhead said:

This notion that Wendy and Lisa set the standard 20 years ago for challenge and inspiration is hilarious to me.

Numerous subsequent band members have proven to be considerably more talented as musicians, pushing him to play better than he could before, and have helped him broaden his palette at least as much.

Heck, Wendy and Lisa 20 years ago were nowhere near as good as they are now, and nobody regards them as exceptional, particularly gifted or influential today.

Yes, they had some influence on him way back when. And yes, we were all young and impressionable back then. But let's maintain some perspective.

CJBabyDaddy said:

i agree with this. i believe wendy & Lisa were an ispiration to prince in that time period they shared and plus an impact because of that period the band were younger. Yes,They've been others that have inspired him as well. You put in better words.

lezama said:

It's not "shite".... it's called "facts".

Listen, I'm not one of the W&L magenta-flavored Kook Aid drinkers either. I bought their albums but really never play them anymore, I do really like them as people etc.... but I'm not gonna go on a rampage about them or credit Prince's success to them.

I'm just stating facts: some --not all-- of Prince's biggest hits and successes came from his collabos with them. NONE came from collabos with the male sidemen listed above. Period.

I know most people on here are fanatical in one way or the other but I'm able to see nuance and shades of grey. Try it sometime.

What songs did prince not write that he claimed for himself? I'm not saying he didn't do this, just wondering which songs those would be.

sarkozyiszeman said:

I was stating a point, no need to get snoby about anything.

And what you assume about me is insane considering your a fam yourself(of Prince) perfect post example

NEVER did I say he could not do anything by himself. I stated a FACT! They were with him influence hits or not they were.

David Coleman (Lisa's brother) was the influence for ATWIAD, NOT Wendy and Lisa.

Prince also liked to um shall I say....yeah Ill say it.... take others work and claim it for himself.. wait he still does that too.

And I beg to differ with you on my personal choice of music so your WRONG about that, I happen to like a variety of music. I listen to classical to heavy metal not just Prince influenced, ty So where you got I was just a W& L fam is insane. You know NOTHING about me except what I post nor do I know about you.

Little Red Corvette was influenced by a nap taken in the back of Lisa's car after a long night recording session(that is as influenced as that song was to Lisa)

Learn to read I put it in bold above( AND what I qouted in the post BEFORE) why I stated it.

You may want to relax before you take a sip of the "kool aid" again k.
[Edited 1/11/09 16:16pm]

toots said:

There you go.

Always this way of diminishing everything P has done. It was never him. It was someone else. He stole this from Mr x, stole that from Ms y.

One day peope like you will pretend that on stage his guitar solos are prerecorded and that it's Wendy who is in fact playing.

Talking about ATWIAD, that's W&L's version. prince had said his own father had great impact on this cd as well. problem is he rarely talks so people like W&L who are interviews whores can say whatever they want, they will be nobody to say the opposite or to correct them.

And give me a break regarding the fam thingy. For the last 11 years, I have hated NPS, Rave, Musicology, PE. I have absolutely hated his shows in London in 98.

I just happen to think this musical genius can pop up anytime with absolute brillant stuff like TRC and the One Nite Alone Tour and that many of the 02 arena shows were brillant as well. And what about the aftershows !

So there you go. There is some good and bad with Prince. But it's not because what he does is not always great that suddenly he must be insulted by a bunch of retarded obsessive geeks.

[Edited 1/12/09 3:45am]

shayde said:

http://www.newsday.com/en...3271.story

You didnt hear about this? Where have you been seriously? I thought EVERYONE under the sun knew.

Short story:
Hell he "tried" to lay claim to the song Creep(Princes cover at this show) and performance, even his websherif pulled it from youtube, then when Radiohead caught wind of it they wanted it back up and they(youtube) put it back up cause it really wasnt Prince song, He was also trying to claim copywrite issues, but could not since it was put back up on the site YT. It was a big fiasco.

toots said:

He didn't lay claim to the song but to the PERFORMANCE. There's a difference. And legally he was completely right. Youtube did not have any rights to the performance which is why its not there now.

sarkozyiszeman said:

Still didnt read it thouroghly did you?

toots said:

Obviously he has reading comprehension issues. People like this see "W&L" and all of a sudden their reading skills go below standard elementary school level, apparently.

GaryMF said:

Do you speak a few foreign languages fluently yourself ? Uh ?

Moreover, no reading issue here. Flame snipped - Mars23

do you think new band will contain all the new players or he will bring some old friends?

sarkozyiszeman said:

Actually, I do speak several languages thank you, though I would not say fluently since I no longer have time to practice them.

Nevertheless, that is irrelevant. This thread is in English so only English literacy is relevant.

The bottom line is, you keep reacting to statements that were never actually written here i.e. you react as though someone has said that all of Prince's success is due to W&L.

When in fact, what has been said is simply that some of his most successful songs were in fact collaborations with them. Your reactions suggest that you are unable to see the difference. Very typical on here from the purple Kool-Aid drinkers.

CJBabyDaddy said:

I know that the whole W&L thing has been highly contentious BUT whilst on their own may not be ground breaking [although they make gorgeous music] the fact is that when the 3 of them get together something fantastic & creative happens. Can you honestly compare ANY NPG band that has inspired him to be as creative compared to his 80's output.
Think of it this way, Lennon and McCartney on their own = excellent, but together they were the best.

funkyhead said:

sonny t

michael b ..

nuff said ..listen 2 the undertaker will ya? damn ..this wendy and lisa shit of oh there was magic in the air is so overated..yeah the 3 of them got 2gether again and created planet earth, the worst album of his entire career..yeah inpiration like that needs 2 b flushed in the toilet

1) What are the languages you do speak ? I'd be more than happy to test you since I'm 100% sure you're bullshiting me.

2) Typical from W&L's fams : she did not say "some of his most successful " but " his most successful ". Learn to read rainbow child. And then realizing that there are plenty of hits mad eby prince without them, you guys rearrange the whole story.
When I read that even a cd like 1999 is considered as part of W&L's work, I see how biased you are.

3) Cut the crap. I'm not a fam. Will never be. I hate W&L's fanatics as much as Prince's.

CJBabyDaddy said:

Bash W&L all you want..... the bottom line is Prince's biggest hits represent his collabos with them. Thus...the poster's original point that regardless of how "taletended" they are or are not, the combination of Prince, W and L created some of his best and most popular and successful music.

sarkozyiszeman said:

Oh really? Name a top 10 song..... damn even a top 40 song he made with Michael, Sonny, John B, Renato???

I'm going by facts dude. You're the one drinking purple Kook Aid.

Of couse I don't include Sheila cuz she can do no wrong! Seriously, at least she and P did Love Bizarre and Glam life which were both top 40.

GaryMF said:

Name a single top 10 song by W&L in their ENTIRE career.

Giovanni777 said:

Agree. We can all quibble about his songwriting and albums since RC/ONA era, but his live bands have been amazing. The musicianship of Neto, Blackwell, Sheila E, Mike Scott, Greg Boyer and Prince have elevated his live performances to places the Revolution could never reach.

GaryMF said:

when doves cry is prince's biggest hit and there is no wendy and lisa contribution there

raspberry beret dates back to 1982

sign o the times - no wendy and lisa there kiss - no wendy and lisa there
shall i go on?

sarkozyiszeman said:

I don't need you to test me, but to answer your qeuestions, French, German, and Hebrew. And I said I'm no longer fluent anyway.

And no need to be arrogant; you're only promoting the strereotpye people have of your own countrymen.



Once again you keep proving your lack of basic reading skills.

I am the one who wrote the comment and I clearly wrote "some of his best songs". Not "most".

I did say "biggest hits" which I still stand by as I already stated, his PR era hits were the biggest of his career. Although clearly there were also hits before and after without W&L.

And again, I never stated 1999 has anything to do with W&L (though to be technical I think Wendy sings BGs on one song, but that is irrelevant).



Clearly you are. You keep reacting as though I have stated that P is nothing without W&L, yet all I have stated are the FACTS that Prince/W&L compositions represent his biggest hits.

Your inability to aknowledge this fact without automatically going into defense mode, refusing to accept that anyone could have possibly influenced or collaobrated with Prince, and over-reating is basic "Fam" behavior.

Perhaps it's also your basic logic skills in addition to reading comprehension that need work. For example, the following statements are NOT mutually exclusive:

1. Prince is a musical genius

2. Prince has written great songs on his own pre W&L and post W&L. Some of these have been successful hits.

3. Prince, W&L have written songs together that achieved great success and are some of his biggest hits.

4. W&L are talented musicians but have not had major pop success as solo artists.

Guess what? ALL of the above are true. You don't have to choose one.
[Edited 1/12/09 10:44am]

Perhaps, but it is listed as P and Rev song plus W&L did write the strings. So according to the man himself, it's a collabo.



No, what you should do is go back and learn to read.

I clearly stated multiple times Prince has had hits without W&L before and after the PR era.

That doesnt' negate that fact that some of his biggest hits were still with them.

jdcxc said:

PREACH!!