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Reply #30 posted 01/09/09 11:21am

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Flo6 said:

I'm glad those automated plastic dolls are gone - waaaayyyy too artificial looking for me. He needs some sexy girls-dancers from Russia/the former Soviet bloc: a beauty that's sensual but natural.

And if he likes butterscotch/caramel, he can go for girls from Uzbekistan, Tadzhikistan, Armenia, Georgia, etc. Nothing fake, pure, undiluted beauty, and let's not forget that their countries are often considered the cradle of belly dancing [at least, those sensual dances are very popular all over the region].
All these girls can be found in Moscow.


I hope I'm not sounding 'anti-Western women', but my argument applies to the women when see on stage/in shows/the entertainment business in the US mostly, who I think are made up and decorated to death.


wtf???? lol

whats the the whole european obssesion? lol
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Reply #31 posted 01/09/09 11:27am

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He's always changing we'll see! smile
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Reply #32 posted 01/09/09 11:44am

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sarkozyiszeman said:

I would not be surprised if Esperanza Balding (Bass) and Blackwell (Drums) were part of the new band.

I wouldn't be surprised either.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #33 posted 01/09/09 11:46am

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I'd vote for Me'shell Ndgecello a thousand time as the new Bass player. She's just as crazy as Prince & would bring a creative spark as well as kick ass technique.
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Reply #34 posted 01/09/09 11:49am

Graycap23

Farfunknugin said:

I'd vote for Me'shell Ndgecello a thousand time as the new Bass player. She's just as crazy as Prince & would bring a creative spark as well as kick ass technique.

That union would last 4 about 10 minutes.
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Reply #35 posted 01/09/09 11:59am

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Graycap23 said:

Farfunknugin said:

I'd vote for Me'shell Ndgecello a thousand time as the new Bass player. She's just as crazy as Prince & would bring a creative spark as well as kick ass technique.

That union would last 4 about 10 minutes.


I like your optimism. I was thinking more like 8 minutes. lol
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Reply #36 posted 01/09/09 12:58pm

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Larry G. in a 2-piece would be a fun surprise
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Reply #37 posted 01/09/09 1:25pm

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sarkozyiszeman said:

errant said:

at this point, i really hope it's an all-new band, but comprised of musicians who are going to push and inspire him.

he's had lazy, uninspired bands for too long. and bringing in the long time associates has gotten stale, because he always brings back the same ones (Morris Hayes, Mike Scott, background/duet singer of the moment #586, Eric Leeds - as much as I love him, etc.

but if he ends up with an all new band, i hope he rehearses them a little more than he did the all-new 1997 version of the NPG that he toured with. egads.


I totally disagree with you. His band from the One Nite Alone Tour was amazing and inspired him big time in a very positive way.
especially John Blackwell and renato neto.


Yes, they were a very good band, but from all the audio I've heard from the last few years, whoever has been in the band, the sound hasn't changed that much. It's just gotten even more laid back, if anything.

Time for something new, I think.
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Reply #38 posted 01/09/09 1:26pm

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Giovanni777 said:

sarkozyiszeman said:



I totally disagree with you. His band from the One Nite Alone Tour was amazing and inspired him big time in a very positive way.
especially John Blackwell and renato neto.


EXCELLENT point.

He very inspired musically, and the result was new and fresh.



that was 6 years ago.
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Reply #39 posted 01/09/09 1:27pm

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I'd rather see P get back with Micheal Bland and Sonny T. and crank out another power trio joint. Do a selected small tour and play the songs stripped down and loose.
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Reply #40 posted 01/09/09 10:06pm

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I'd like to be in his new band.
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Reply #41 posted 01/09/09 10:19pm

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purplecam said:

sarkozyiszeman said:

I would not be surprised if Esperanza Balding (Bass) and Blackwell (Drums) were part of the new band.

I wouldn't be surprised either.



I hope Esperanza DOES NOT. She should remain independent, and continue to be the leader of her own work and career.
"You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
"Water can nourish me, but water can also carry me. Water has magic laws." - JCVD
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Reply #42 posted 01/09/09 10:36pm

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Bring back Tony.M biggrin
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Reply #43 posted 01/10/09 1:27am

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Indeed 'wtf????' - the CIS countries I mentioned [Uzbekistan, etc] are in Central Asia. wink




RumAndRaisin said:

Flo6 said:

I'm glad those automated plastic dolls are gone - waaaayyyy too artificial looking for me. He needs some sexy girls-dancers from Russia/the former Soviet bloc: a beauty that's sensual but natural.

And if he likes butterscotch/caramel, he can go for girls from Uzbekistan, Tadzhikistan, Armenia, Georgia, etc. Nothing fake, pure, undiluted beauty, and let's not forget that their countries are often considered the cradle of belly dancing [at least, those sensual dances are very popular all over the region].
All these girls can be found in Moscow.


I hope I'm not sounding 'anti-Western women', but my argument applies to the women when see on stage/in shows/the entertainment business in the US mostly, who I think are made up and decorated to death.


wtf???? lol

whats the the whole european obssesion?
lol
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Reply #44 posted 01/10/09 2:10am

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SPYZFAN1 said:

I'd rather see P get back with Micheal Bland and Sonny T. and crank out another power trio joint. Do a selected small tour and play the songs stripped down and loose.



YUP headbang
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Reply #45 posted 01/10/09 4:16am

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SPYZFAN1 said:

I'd rather see P get back with Micheal Bland and Sonny T. and crank out another power trio joint. Do a selected small tour and play the songs stripped down and loose.


Seconded.

Please Prince, no more Renato. He's the reason why your live shows musically come across in parts as smooth jazz fests. Let's have a keyboard player with an attacking style. Morris is good though - not flashy, but always compliments the band well.
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Reply #46 posted 01/10/09 5:02am

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Mong said:

SPYZFAN1 said:

I'd rather see P get back with Micheal Bland and Sonny T. and crank out another power trio joint. Do a selected small tour and play the songs stripped down and loose.


Seconded.

Please Prince, no more Renato. He's the reason why your live shows musically come across in parts as smooth jazz fests. Let's have a keyboard player with an attacking style. Morris is good though - not flashy, but always compliments the band well.


Having some one like renato around gives prince a more "mature" feel to it,and plus prince has done wore out all the funk stuff anyway,there aint nothin wrong with funk,but i feel prince is more grown up now musicaly and i like having bothe the funk and jazz that prince has to offer.
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Reply #47 posted 01/10/09 9:38am

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CJBabyDaddy said:

funkyhead said:


I know that the whole W&L thing has been highly contentious BUT whilst on their own may not be ground breaking [although they make gorgeous music] the fact is that when the 3 of them get together something fantastic & creative happens. Can you honestly compare ANY NPG band that has inspired him to be as creative compared to his 80's output.
Think of it this way, Lennon and McCartney on their own = excellent, but together they were the best.


Lyrical content aside, TRC represents a considerable expansion of his musical palette that bears no W&L influence. Renato and Greg have stretched his understanding of the confluence between pop and jazz in recent years and it shows up in a positive way. We don't know what, if anything "fantastic" would happen if middle-aged grumpsters Prince, Wendy & Lisa got together today (other than some heated discussion of the New Yorker article.) lol

Bash W&L all you want..... the bottom line is Prince's biggest hits represent his collabos with them. Thus...the poster's original point that regardless of how "taletended" they are or are not, the combination of Prince, W and L created some of his best and most popular and successful music.
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Reply #48 posted 01/10/09 9:41am

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SPYZFAN1 said:

I'd rather see P get back with Micheal Bland and Sonny T. and crank out another power trio joint. Do a selected small tour and play the songs stripped down and loose.


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Reply #49 posted 01/10/09 9:52am

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GaryMF said:

CJBabyDaddy said:



Lyrical content aside, TRC represents a considerable expansion of his musical palette that bears no W&L influence. Renato and Greg have stretched his understanding of the confluence between pop and jazz in recent years and it shows up in a positive way. We don't know what, if anything "fantastic" would happen if middle-aged grumpsters Prince, Wendy & Lisa got together today (other than some heated discussion of the New Yorker article.) lol

Bash W&L all you want..... the bottom line is Prince's biggest hits represent his collabos with them. Thus...the poster's original point that regardless of how "taletended" they are or are not, the combination of Prince, W and L created some of his best and most popular and successful music.

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Reply #50 posted 01/10/09 10:21am

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GaryMF said:

CJBabyDaddy said:



Lyrical content aside, TRC represents a considerable expansion of his musical palette that bears no W&L influence. Renato and Greg have stretched his understanding of the confluence between pop and jazz in recent years and it shows up in a positive way. We don't know what, if anything "fantastic" would happen if middle-aged grumpsters Prince, Wendy & Lisa got together today (other than some heated discussion of the New Yorker article.) lol

Bash W&L all you want..... the bottom line is Prince's biggest hits represent his collabos with them. Thus...the poster's original point that regardless of how "taletended" they are or are not, the combination of Prince, W and L created some of his best and most popular and successful music.


The combination of Prince + Sheila E + Miko Weaver or Prince + Michael B and Sonny T or prince + John Blackwell + Renato Neto offered some music as good as anything done with W&L.
Cut the crap please. Their collaboration was great but stop with the myth.
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Reply #51 posted 01/10/09 10:23am

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sarkozyiszeman said:

The combination of Prince + Sheila E + Miko Weaver or Prince + Michael B and Sonny T or prince + John Blackwell + Renato Neto offered some music as good as anything done with W&L.
Cut the crap please. Their collaboration was great but stop with the myth.


Oh really? Name a top 10 song..... damn even a top 40 song he made with Michael, Sonny, John B, Renato???

I'm going by facts dude. You're the one drinking purple Kook Aid.

Of couse I don't include Sheila cuz she can do no wrong! smile Seriously, at least she and P did Love Bizarre and Glam life which were both top 40.
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Reply #52 posted 01/10/09 10:27am

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GaryMF said:

sarkozyiszeman said:

The combination of Prince + Sheila E + Miko Weaver or Prince + Michael B and Sonny T or prince + John Blackwell + Renato Neto offered some music as good as anything done with W&L.
Cut the crap please. Their collaboration was great but stop with the myth.


Oh really? Name a top 10 song..... damn even a top 40 song he made with Michael, Sonny, John B, Renato???

I'm going by facts dude. You're the one drinking purple Kook Aid.

Of couse I don't include Sheila cuz she can do no wrong! smile Seriously, at least she and P did Love Bizarre and Glam life which were both top 40.

Preach it bow

Hell imho, his music and popularity went downhill after W&L. Look at now even.

myth???? wtf??? confuse Is what I wanna know.
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Reply #53 posted 01/10/09 10:33am

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GaryMF said:

CJBabyDaddy said:



Lyrical content aside, TRC represents a considerable expansion of his musical palette that bears no W&L influence. Renato and Greg have stretched his understanding of the confluence between pop and jazz in recent years and it shows up in a positive way. We don't know what, if anything "fantastic" would happen if middle-aged grumpsters Prince, Wendy & Lisa got together today (other than some heated discussion of the New Yorker article.) lol

Bash W&L all you want..... the bottom line is Prince's biggest hits represent his collabos with them. Thus...the poster's original point that regardless of how "taletended" they are or are not, the combination of Prince, W and L created some of his best and most popular and successful music.


Please... not this shite again... bored
Change it one more time..
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Reply #54 posted 01/10/09 11:03am

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CJBabyDaddy said:

Graycap23 said:


That union would last 4 about 10 minutes.


I like your optimism. I was thinking more like 8 minutes. lol


Ha, I'd still take 8 minutes of that then 8 years of rhonda/larry any day.
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Reply #55 posted 01/10/09 11:07am

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lezama said:

GaryMF said:


Bash W&L all you want..... the bottom line is Prince's biggest hits represent his collabos with them. Thus...the poster's original point that regardless of how "taletended" they are or are not, the combination of Prince, W and L created some of his best and most popular and successful music.


Please... not this shite again... bored

It's not "shite".... it's called "facts".

Listen, I'm not one of the W&L magenta-flavored Kook Aid drinkers either. smile I bought their albums but really never play them anymore, I do really like them as people etc.... but I'm not gonna go on a rampage about them or credit Prince's success to them.

I'm just stating facts: some --not all-- of Prince's biggest hits and successes came from his collabos with them. NONE came from collabos with the male sidemen listed above. Period.

I know most people on here are fanatical in one way or the other but I'm able to see nuance and shades of grey. Try it sometime.
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Reply #56 posted 01/10/09 12:28pm

Graycap23

GaryMF said:

CJBabyDaddy said:



Lyrical content aside, TRC represents a considerable expansion of his musical palette that bears no W&L influence. Renato and Greg have stretched his understanding of the confluence between pop and jazz in recent years and it shows up in a positive way. We don't know what, if anything "fantastic" would happen if middle-aged grumpsters Prince, Wendy & Lisa got together today (other than some heated discussion of the New Yorker article.) lol

Bash W&L all you want..... the bottom line is Prince's biggest hits represent his collabos with them. Thus...the poster's original point that regardless of how "taletended" they are or are not, the combination of Prince, W and L created some of his best and most popular and successful music.

Name a single top 10 song by W&L in their ENTIRE career.
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Reply #57 posted 01/10/09 12:58pm

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Graycap23 said:

GaryMF said:


Bash W&L all you want..... the bottom line is Prince's biggest hits represent his collabos with them. Thus...the poster's original point that regardless of how "taletended" they are or are not, the combination of Prince, W and L created some of his best and most popular and successful music.

Name a single top 10 song by W&L in their ENTIRE career.


rolleyes

Really like that matters, at least they got ON the charts, like Shiela did. Did anyone else get on the charts as the one who YOU are pushing for(Chris Dave)?lol
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Reply #58 posted 01/10/09 1:19pm

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GaryMF said:

CJBabyDaddy said:



Lyrical content aside, TRC represents a considerable expansion of his musical palette that bears no W&L influence. Renato and Greg have stretched his understanding of the confluence between pop and jazz in recent years and it shows up in a positive way. We don't know what, if anything "fantastic" would happen if middle-aged grumpsters Prince, Wendy & Lisa got together today (other than some heated discussion of the New Yorker article.) lol

Bash W&L all you want..... the bottom line is Prince's biggest hits represent his collabos with them. Thus...the poster's original point that regardless of how "taletended" they are or are not, the combination of Prince, W and L created some of his best and most popular and successful music.


Yes, but the W&L with Prince is over now. Maybe that's why some artists from back in the day are obsolete now, because they didn't try to move past their era and take risks and collaborate with other artists, add new members to their band or change their style a bit.

Now without sounding like a fam, and quite frankly I don't really give a sh*t if anyone thinks that's what I sound like, and I've been called worse here, but still standing and breathing, so anyway.....

...Prince still fills stadiums, with or without W&L. He's a one man music icon, a household name in the music industry, and apparently knows they'll never be another one like him because he's always had his own unique style and takes risks--not saying that no artist doesn't copy a bit of another artist's style/music, but it's how that artist takes their own creativity, mix it with other artists who were influences to them, and make it their own style, own it, and use it to attract their own fan base. That's why he's survived for so long. Doesn't mean everyone likes every single song that he sang or wrote. I surely don't, but I have my favorite tracks and just focus and play the ones I like, and give the ones I may not like much a listen or to.

I have to say though, I definitely enjoyed the time W&L spent with Prince and their classics with him will remain classics forever, to Prince fans and W&L fans, but you have to move on and take risks sometimes, even if it means there's a chance it will fail, but at least you tried, and if you didn't, then you would never know what changes you need to make to make it better, the next time. Didn't W&L work on his Planet Earth album and everyone thought it was going to knock the socks off of fans because W&L was involved somehow? Apparently it didn't have as much as an impact on many of P's fans or W&L fans, but life goes on, and he could have choose to try again and go for the challenge or give up. I doubt we see him give up anytime soon though, and he shouldn't have to for something he loves doing until he decides to end it himself.
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Reply #59 posted 01/10/09 1:32pm

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Giovanni777 said:

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I totally disagree with you. His band from the One Nite Alone Tour was amazing and inspired him big time in a very positive way.
especially John Blackwell and renato neto.


EXCELLENT point.

He very inspired musically, and the result was new and fresh.


Agree. We can all quibble about his songwriting and albums since RC/ONA era, but his live bands have been amazing. The musicianship of Neto, Blackwell, Sheila E, Mike Scott, Greg Boyer and Prince have elevated his live performances to places the Revolution could never reach.
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