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Thread started 01/06/09 8:43am

funkyhead

P & Quincy Jones share so much in common, anyone else wish they'd worked together?.

just watched a big ole 2 part documenatry on QJ and frankly they could have been talking about P!. I now feel embarrased for what P did at the AMA music awards [Lollipopgate!]
Does anyone else wish that they would have gotten together as artists [rather than the puppet and master situation he had with MJ]. I think the jazz elements of P really could have come out even stronger if they did.
I suspect that QJ would still love to work with P, I hope they will.
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Reply #1 posted 01/06/09 8:52am

Genesia

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No.
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Reply #2 posted 01/06/09 8:55am

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Genesia said:

No.


lol thumbs up!
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Reply #3 posted 01/06/09 9:30am

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Genesia said:

No.


Amen!
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Reply #4 posted 01/06/09 9:42am

purplecam

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Genesia said:

No.

I agree. nod
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Reply #5 posted 01/06/09 9:49am

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...it would be hard to say...u have 2 masters in the same room...and then u cannot teach an old dog new tricks..i think prince would teach Quincy..no offense..ALOT!...i mean the last thing i bought from mr.jones..was his jook joint and that was 1995!!...prince has put in his time very well..and he is doing fine w/o the collabo...if anything..if quincy PAYS prince for his time..i don't see the harm in that type of work...all in a day's work.....mzsexybaby sexy
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #6 posted 01/06/09 10:00am

djenerate

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Can you see Quincy taking the role of producer on Dirty Mind?? lol.

I think he is immensely talented, but my guess is that it would have just been another Michael Jackson record.

Prince's career would have taken a whole different direction. I have doubts that it would have made any impact. Prince had to carve his own niche.
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Reply #7 posted 01/06/09 11:58am

kenlacam

NO
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Reply #8 posted 01/06/09 6:07pm

lezama

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It would have been interesting, but I cant imagine them working together. I think they'd barely get thru one song together and then both would call it quits.
Change it one more time..
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Reply #9 posted 01/06/09 6:47pm

sexxydancer

hmph!
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Reply #10 posted 01/06/09 6:52pm

SUPRMAN

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Never.

Why would they do that?
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Reply #11 posted 01/06/09 6:56pm

jdcxc

Q is 75 years old.
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Reply #12 posted 01/06/09 8:07pm

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In the 70's, Quincy would have tried to turn P disco. In the 80's, he would have given him pop appeal that he attained anyway without him, and in the 90's / 2000's he would have produced Rainbow Children which he obviously wasn't needed for.

On top of that, we all now that there isn't a producer anywhere that can say or do anything that P can't do already on his own. On stage maybe, but on record he's completely not required.
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Reply #13 posted 01/06/09 8:28pm

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methodcal said:

In the 70's, Quincy would have tried to turn P disco. In the 80's, he would have given him pop appeal that he attained anyway without him, and in the 90's / 2000's he would have produced Rainbow Children which he obviously wasn't needed for.

On top of that, we all now that there isn't a producer anywhere that can say or do anything that P can't do already on his own. On stage maybe, but on record he's completely not required.



Exactly. Prince KNOWS what he's hearing in his head. It's obvious something Prince has worked at. The only help Prince has ever needed was me to select the singles and promote them properly. Singles promote albums and that doesn't mean Prince has to make albums with 'singles' on them.
Why wasn't 'Love' the first single from 3121? or second after 'Black Sweat'? why was 'Te Amo Corazon' a single at all? 'The Word' would've been a single if it were left up to me . . .

Planet Earth? 'Chelsea Rodgers' is the obvious single choice. 'Future Baby Mama' did surpisingly well. 'Make 'Guitar' the B-side to 'Future Baby Mama' and market them to multiple formats.
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Reply #14 posted 01/06/09 10:28pm

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SUPRMAN said:

The only help Prince has ever needed was me to select the singles and promote them properly. Singles promote albums and that doesn't mean Prince has to make albums with 'singles' on them.
Why wasn't 'Love' the first single from 3121? or second after 'Black Sweat'? why was 'Te Amo Corazon' a single at all? 'The Word' would've been a single if it were left up to me . . .

Planet Earth? 'Chelsea Rodgers' is the obvious single choice. 'Future Baby Mama' did surpisingly well. 'Make 'Guitar' the B-side to 'Future Baby Mama' and market them to multiple formats.


"The Word" has no discernible chorus & the chorus to "Love" is an instrumental piece, which is in no way catchy like the musical motif's which dominate the largely instrumental hooks of "When Dove's Cry"/"Kiss"/"ICNTTPOYM".

After all, chorus's are what make hit's, hit's sell singles & singles sell albums.

That's not to say that "The Word" or "Love" aren't better SONGS than the ones which were chosen as singles. But they are definitely not singles, & the one's that were selected as singles were done so for a reason.

Bearing in mind that Prince isn't writing "singles" anymore, as he apparently has no interest in getting into the charts.
BUT, getting distribution with majors labels for his past few albums, the record companies have had to try & find the tracks which best fit their blueprint for a single, as that is just how they do things.
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Reply #15 posted 01/06/09 10:53pm

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djenerate said:

SUPRMAN said:

The only help Prince has ever needed was me to select the singles and promote them properly. Singles promote albums and that doesn't mean Prince has to make albums with 'singles' on them.
Why wasn't 'Love' the first single from 3121? or second after 'Black Sweat'? why was 'Te Amo Corazon' a single at all? 'The Word' would've been a single if it were left up to me . . .

Planet Earth? 'Chelsea Rodgers' is the obvious single choice. 'Future Baby Mama' did surpisingly well. 'Make 'Guitar' the B-side to 'Future Baby Mama' and market them to multiple formats.


"The Word" has no discernible chorus & the chorus to "Love" is an instrumental piece, which is in no way catchy like the musical motif's which dominate the largely instrumental hooks of "When Dove's Cry"/"Kiss"/"ICNTTPOYM".

After all, chorus's are what make hit's, hit's sell singles & singles sell albums.

That's not to say that "The Word" or "Love" aren't better SONGS than the ones which were chosen as singles. But they are definitely not singles, & the one's that were selected as singles were done so for a reason.

Bearing in mind that Prince isn't writing "singles" anymore, as he apparently has no interest in getting into the charts.
BUT, getting distribution with majors labels for his past few albums, the record companies have had to try & find the tracks which best fit their blueprint for a single, as that is just how they do things.


I disagree. If instrumentals can be #1 singles (no, it doesn't happen every day but it does, .. .) then why can't a chorus serve as a hook. People can hum . . .
And never underestimate a great song. People can gravitate toward a great song with the typical pop arrangement.

The world will never lack basic pop. I still think they could've been marketed successfully.
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Reply #16 posted 01/07/09 12:21am

blackwell1

Hey, if both were inspired to work together, I'd welcome it with open arms. Two great musical minds ... Would be interesting the dynamics, and, of course, the product.
But I doubt it will happen. There's lots of giants that don't work together.
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Reply #17 posted 01/09/09 8:08am

funkyhead

methodcal said:

In the 70's, Quincy would have tried to turn P disco. In the 80's, he would have given him pop appeal that he attained anyway without him, and in the 90's / 2000's he would have produced Rainbow Children which he obviously wasn't needed for.

On top of that, we all now that there isn't a producer anywhere that can say or do anything that P can't do already on his own. On stage maybe, but on record he's completely not required.

missing the point. I meant for them to work as joint composers / producers etc and NOT for QJ to produce P [THAT WOULD BE HORRIBLE!].
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Reply #18 posted 01/09/09 9:04am

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nah dont like the sound of it, then people will start saying hes "copying jacko" bla bla bla 2 milk cows and 1 big melon nuts
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Reply #19 posted 01/09/09 9:28am

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djenerate said:

SUPRMAN said:

The only help Prince has ever needed was me to select the singles and promote them properly. Singles promote albums and that doesn't mean Prince has to make albums with 'singles' on them.
Why wasn't 'Love' the first single from 3121? or second after 'Black Sweat'? why was 'Te Amo Corazon' a single at all? 'The Word' would've been a single if it were left up to me . . .

Planet Earth? 'Chelsea Rodgers' is the obvious single choice. 'Future Baby Mama' did surpisingly well. 'Make 'Guitar' the B-side to 'Future Baby Mama' and market them to multiple formats.


"The Word" has no discernible chorus & the chorus to "Love" is an instrumental piece, which is in no way catchy like the musical motif's which dominate the largely instrumental hooks of "When Dove's Cry"/"Kiss"/"ICNTTPOYM".

After all, chorus's are what make hit's, hit's sell singles & singles sell albums.

That's not to say that "The Word" or "Love" aren't better SONGS than the ones which were chosen as singles. But they are definitely not singles, & the one's that were selected as singles were done so for a reason.

Bearing in mind that Prince isn't writing "singles" anymore, as he apparently has no interest in getting into the charts.
BUT, getting distribution with majors labels for his past few albums, the record companies have had to try & find the tracks which best fit their blueprint for a single, as that is just how they do things.



you aint neva lied. nod its always been about the hit single. just look at that Akon crap " i wanna make love now now now now now" that shit is blowing up the airwaves cuz its catchy and easy to repeat. but i could never see Q and P working together and having it be a successful collaboration. Q is too contolled and boxed. I don't think he truly grasps the artistry of P. So other than they both dig women young enuf to be their daughters and are producers i can't see any legitimate similarities. hmph!
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