Everyone has a plan 4 the man..but it appears that he cannot have one 4 himself. Interesting.....

sexyAuntyFuka said:

how about leaving out ur religious views in this discussion?

and ur speaking from someone that obviously has never been in the record business nor had any meetings with record execs when discussing what is ur's and what is theirs.

WB has lost it's way when the likes of Mo Ostin and Larry Warnoker left WB. And if WB is sooooo great, then y did the likes of Linkin Park have problems with them? Y did Madonna leave them?

What Prince basically is today is technically a normal member of the public who releases Music..sure he's richer than a 14 year old student who releases house music on the net that he's made in his bedroom at his mum's house but basically thats all P is now.

No record deal technically makes P as ordinary as anyone else. In terms of status He's back 2 when he was an unsigned act

He's like a soilder who leaves the army but still wears camoflague and goes 2 war as a mersonary

purplecam said:

"Miles Away" was the last single. Warner didn't even send it to US radio stations even though "4 Minutes" was her biggest airplay hit in 6 years and the album track "Beat Goes On" was played by some stations, demanding it to be a single. Of course Warner dropped the ball. The song didn't have a video and as a 3rd single of an album with zero promo, it broke her string of UK Top 20 hits. That's Warner for ya.

sexyAuntyFuka said:

So Prince is.....Rambro?

I disagree, i have a close friend who so happened to know and work with prince very closely in 96. I don't want to go in too much detail but i had a long chat with him and we were talking about the disputes between P and the Record Labels and he explained to me very well why quite frankly prince is much better off without a record label. We all know prince is very dominant and usually knows exactly what he wants, or when he wants something he has to have it that way. Prince made a lot of bad business moves in the past and did not act as a good business man, this had consequences. He joined WB somewhat to quickly without thinking too much about the contract. That is usually the problem. Musicians who want to become successful at the start of their career often get pushed into a contract that concludes in unfair business deals and ridiculous conditions. Yes prince while being 15 denied the contract from WB as they would not let him produce himself and what not. But when he turned 19 he still acted naive to a certain extent. This mainly concerning WB, prince signed several contracts that had a very negative impact in the future. If his music was better during WB is a debatable thing as it has to do with taste. Prince simply is his own leader and cant have someone leading him and therefore a Record Label(deal)such as with WB will deffanatly not work for him (and diddent while he had one) with some exceptions. There would be no possible way for prince to get master ownership of several songs as that is the money source for record labels. Wb did not give him ownership and prince cant have that so the only solution for him is= Do it without^^

I personally can enjoy princes music better knowing he is enjoying doing it however he pleases rather than him making music after certain guidelines from the record labels that in their opinion makes it sell better but him being unhappy.

cheers
[Edited 1/7/09 12:56pm]

L4OATheOriginal said:

Silence! I kill U!

Lovesymbol2 said:

It worked very well from For You until the symbol album...then things started 2 suck a little

In theory, yes.
But truthfully since he left Warners, he kind of sucked.
He was better off with Warners musically and artistically.
Sure, there may not be any correlation, and hopefully 2009 will prove that.
But so far, it looks like there's a strong positive correlation.


The only thing we can be certain of before LotusFartBlossom is released is that he'd be better off without his wig.

We wouldn't have the great paintings of Vincent Van Gogh without his great struggle against poverty, madness, unrequited love and insecurity

wouldn't have Mozarts great works if it wasn't 4 him trying 2 get around the restrictions & censorship of his day

Name me one genius besides that dick wad Hitler who's great art has been produced from being a law un2 themself

JANET Wouldve been a huge hit without Jimmy and Terry, in the beginning...because she is a jackson, Prince ain't worried about that! Carmen Electra wasn't meant to be a super singer DUH!!!

The problem with P is that he's 2 free 2 do what he likes...
Most great works of art are born from things such as..struggle, oppression, finding ingenius ways around restrictions etc
Thats how we got ingenius innuendos like Lil red corvette and lets go crazy..Lucy in the Sky with diamonds esque

If theres no restrictions then musicians will just start doing randomly stupid things like, oh i don't know...releasing 3 albums at once

JANET Wouldve been a huge hit without Jimmy and Terry, in the beginning...because she is a jackson, Prince ain't worried about that! Carmen Electra wasn't meant to be a super singer DUH!!!

simple truth is that Prince would still be making great iconic albums today if he had 2 answer 2 managers or a record label.

What annoys me is that The music he makes now is not 4 his audience but very very selfishly 4 himself.


It annoys me because I am one of the millions of people that are funding this guy's music habit and I expect some return.

He is now like life imitating art..and 2 quote Billy from the Purple rain film "Ur music makes sense 2 no1...but urself"

sexyAuntyFuka said:

I dont think so. To me his last 20 years has seemed desperate, pandering to the lowest commom denomitors to be a big selling artist again. aping every single trend ('cept TRC I'll give you that one.)
Hence.....Fams