Wall said:

Yep, they sure were. I don;t understand the control people want to have over others' lives. If there really is a God, he will sort it out.

MRGee said:

Those caps are hurting the ol' eyes a bit.

But I also know of a few Witnesses -including one who's met him on several occasions at church meetings and the like -who've said they don't believe P is really playing by the Book, so to speak. The ones I've spoken to suspect he hasn't been disfellowshipped yet only because he's got money and comes in handy as a public face.

Vendetta1 said:

No! It is not a sin for straight MARRIED man and woman to Do It!!!! according to GOD!

Astasheiks said:

I stand corrected: straight unmarried people.

but that still does not take away from the fact that all people sin and homosexuality is no bigger sin than any other. i have no idea why it is considered a sin considering some gay people were born that way.

Vendetta1 said:

I'll tell u something I find interesting when I come across homophobic people, specifically mean, but alos women. They rant about it being wrong to be gay and carry on about butt sex etc because sodomy is supposed to be a sing ( mind u Ive never ever once seen that in the 7 deadly sins )
HOWEVER....there is not ONE straight male I know that does not like to have anal sex with a woman..NOT ONE. They talk about it all the time Personally its not something Im into...but I also know PLENTY OF WOMEN )sorry forr looking like mrgee with all my caps lol) who also enjoy anal sex...How is that for hypocritical????

I have no issues what-so-ever with anyones sexuality. I really dont give a damn. U are who u are and Im sorry but love is just what it is...LOVE. Love between two consenting adults should be applauded and appreciated for what it is. I have seen many a same sex love last for longer than any opposite sex marraige and I find it amazing that people have issues with same sex couples being married

As for Prince, I admire the man, I love his music and although I may like to hear his views on things...being a fan of his will NEVER change my mind as to how I fell, nor will it change my own personal views on anything because at the end of the day I have my own brain. Saying he has read the bible with his gay friends dosent prove anything about how he feels one way or the other Obviously he is never going to share his true views on anything ,instead he's sitting on the fence on this one and to be honest I dont care what he thinks about gay marraige or people being gay. If he doesnt like it, thats his problem and if he does well, good for him but it dosent really matter to me.
Oh and I dont like R Kelly either...but that is because he is a dickhead Whenever I hear his music and he's singing all romance and love I just roll my eyes and think " SHut up dude, ure just thinking about which 15 year old u want to pee on next..liar"

chillichocaholic said:

You rock Chili!!!!!

chillichocaholic said:

People talk about change and moving on and growing up. I just want Prince to talk to his fans like we are all adults. There would be no room for guessing or misinterpretation.

Vendetta1 said:

Dont hold your breath for that one. It would have to be a surprise.

Vendetta1 said:

Oh I know what ure saying But I guess that's just part of his "mystery" so to speak Sometimes I think he likes to keep people guessing. He also seems to change his mind quite often, we all do that as we get older and I tell u there are times when I can even decide what to have for breakfast
I doubt he's ever really going to say whats on his mind , so maybe we all need to accept that and get on with out lives whether we stay as fans of his or not because we cant really force the guy to say what he thinks. And sometimes don't u wonder if he dosent say because he's just trying to keep the peace so to speak?

chillichocaholic said:

I believe Prince doesn't care if he loses fans or not so him speaking his mind would not be a problem. It doesn't bother me all that much: it's just something I wonder about from time to time. He's done it before: TRC was pretty darn lucid.

Vendetta1 said:

Well see that's the other thing...sometimes I think his music gets taken too darn literally I realise he does put alot of his thoughts and emotion into his music...of course he does, but not everything he sings or does is about personal experience...any artist worth their salt alos has to be a storyteller, and to make someones story their own, but of course...that's just me talking

purplecam said:

Might get a freekin heart attack!

None of which, of course, explains the heels.

ThreadBare said:

Stop it, Thready.

Vendetta1 said:

Obviously if one's perspective is not to focus on the laws of man then denying a population of equal rights (via the laws of man) wouldn't be on the top of ones agenda.

lezama said:

That is true. But many religious people have to follow the laws of man. And if it becomes law to let gays marry, they would have to abide by that, too.

Wall said:

Yeah because JW's all think alike... And also because as we all know... Prince is such an average JW in the first place. C'mon...

lezama said:

Dontcha know Prince is a mindless robot

lezama said:

They do not all think alike but they all believe the same things. Prince has towed the party line on more than one occasion, even handing out a flier declaring all faiths but JW are false religions.

lezama said:

I never said they all think alike. You're quoting me out of context. I specifically showed how Prince's 'stick it anywhere' comment aligned with his professed religion and as a result, how it was therefore possible to conclude what he thought of homosexuals and gay marriage. Let me break it down more simply for you:

#1 JW's believe homosexuality is a sin (http://www.watchtower.org/e/200702b/article_01.htm)
#2 Prince is a JW

#3. Is Prince's take on homosexuality. I'll let you take the first two steps and get there on your own.

And 'average JW' or not, he's a member of that sect and has used the same language other JW's have used regarding homosexuality (as I've pointed out a page or so back). You aren't a member of a religion because you disagree with its doctrine.

Vendetta1 said:

Actually they (gays) can get married in Canada and they dont have to have residency to do so( a Canadian freind told me this), along with Okinawa, and some countries.SOME states here in the US that it is legal. The ONLY difference is that if the state chooses to recognize it or not( like California with Prop 8). Some states forget to seperate state AND religion

chocolate1 said:

this is what I'm waiting for..

Flowers2 said:

I don't know about u two but Im kind of over it anyway

chillichocaholic said:

I was yesterday. I decided to pop in now to see what I've been missing...
(leaving again! )

Whats kinda interesting, ever come across somebody in the past 30 years who thought Prince himself was gay and you defended him saying "No, hes not"!

And heres a thread about him and his view of gays, hhhhmmmm
[Edited 1/2/09 22:49pm]

Prince has gay friends who he studies the bible wit, meanin Wendy M, Lisa C, and Sheila E.

What they talk about, we dont know. He most likely just sayin he dont judge them or end the friendship just because they gay and he dont vote because he dont believe in it, so how can he condemn anybody lifestyle just by not votin?

Christ. I hope Prince never ever gets asked about this subject again.

I am choosing to accept what P said about "i read the bible with my gay friends" stuff as a sort of apology. I do love P and I am happy he at LEAST made SOME sort of statement about it. Even though I was really upset originally I do feel much better. He may still think of Gay people as second class citizens, hell I am sure there are million of assholes that think that but at least he has given me enough to pretend that he isn't one of them.

sparklyboy said:

huh? Did he say that or gave any indication that he thinks that way?

JayJai said:

I don't get why people don't think that denying people rights classifies them as second-class citizens? But I'll stop there to avoid the wrath of the people on this messageboard that are sick of this topic.