wonder505 said:

Oh, you precious thing.

moron comment -Wall
saying that hater is a stupid and overused term -meow85.

Sound them out carefully, now. WALL. MEOW85. Do those appear to be the same username to you? And no, we're not alters of each other.

Im actually tired of people making angry gay comments then saying "well I have gay friends ...." trying to cover their tracks and not making it look like that isn't what they said
[Edited 1/1/09 15:31pm]

meow85 said:

what???. whatever.

toots said:

So, Prince's initial comments were "angry"? Please.

wonder505 said:

Sorry. Are you confused?

It wasn't me that said Prince was a moron. I said it was stupid of you to be calling people who think so haters.

DIFFERENT. PEOPLE.

He's NEVER been ANTI-GAY and that was TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT. Also like Purple Cam said I DON"T BELIEVE MR HAYES is GAY. I think he had a GIRLFRIEND at some show they did. How can ANYONE think PRINCE was ANTI-GAY RIGHTS? I do BELIEVE he is AGAINST GAY MARRIAGE because he doesn't REALLY believe in MARRIAGE at ALL.

Accujack said:

Um did I say Prince, no, read that again.Not everything pertains to Prince
[Edited 1/1/09 15:48pm]

toots said:

Oh, I'm quite sorry.
We're in the Prince forum, on a thread about Prince making the comment about "gay friends".

How did I ever come to the conclusion you might have been referring to Prince.

The Jehovah Witness do not teach bigoted beliefs about homosexuality. I suggest you study the bible and see what it states regarding homosexuality. I do not know where you are getting these false statements that the JW believe homosexuality is caused by demon possession. You really need to stop making statements that are not accurate.

Straight up question to gay folk, why do you care about what ignorant people think about you?

MRGee said:

What a load of :poop:

keepinitreal said:

I see. So you're saying that a homosexual member of the church would be accepted openly and without judgment? I take it then, even though they cannot vote, JW's advocate marriage benefits for homosexuals? Interesting.

How might that jibe with this:

The February 8, 1995 issue of Awake! stated with regard to homosexuality:

True, some individuals may very well be prone to homosexuality... a Christian cannot excuse immoral behavior by saying he was "born that way." Child molesters invoke the same pathetic excuse when they say their craving for children is "innate." But can anyone deny that their sexual appetite is perverted? So is the desire for someone of the same sex."

Those who persist in homosexual or other behaviors seen as immoral are disfellowshipped. At least one support group for disfellowshipped homosexuals exists.

I might also suggest: http://www.watchtower.org...cle_01.htm

Thanks for playing.

Edit: And by all means, keep keepinitreal.
[Edited 1/1/09 16:17pm]

But he did say that he didn't believe in CONTRACTs REMEMBER? I know he got married to MANUELA after that but one time he said that. And I think him being a JEHOVAH'S WITNESS HE DOESN"T BELIEVE In GAY MARRIAGE. But, I don't think he ever Believed in it. I think he believes it should be BETWWEN a MAN and a WOMAN.

Prince has spoken and clarified himself.

Wall - I don't play. I suggest you are the one playing. You should go back and read your statement. Do you see any references to "demons" that you stated previous in what you just posted? I have not read the February 1995 (14 years old) material. I would say the language in the article does appear slightly judgemental. However, the bible also says Jehovah created Adam and Eve to be fruitful and multiply - that is God's design. Also the bible states one of the reasons Jehovah had the flood during Noahs day was due humans engaging in behavior God does not approve of which included homosexuality.

Don't get me wrong I have lost years ago several of my dearest friends to AIDS who happened to be gay and I pray they will be resurrected. However, the bible scriptures do say men should not lay with men and women should not lay with women. I am no one's judge and neither is anyone else and the scriptures do say we all have sin and can be forgiven. What a person does is between them and Jehovah and their personal decision.

And yes people I am sure there have been people disfellowshipped if they were actively engaging in homosexual activity. My point is you can not stereotype all JW's personal feelings regarding their love for all people. I am a Jehovah Witness and the JW I know are not out preaching the good news out of any form of hatred. They are out there going door to door out of their love for Jehovah, Jesus, and people. I hope this explains what I was trying to say to you better.

Just KeepinItReal

meow85 said:

You answer my post with a stupid overexaggeration?

If you think Prince is a moron as well as a host of other names not to mention constantly posting negative feedback almost all the time, to me that is hating and it makes no sense whatsoever to continue to logon on here. Why come to a website to talk about someone you despise or don't care about his work at all?[Edited 1/1/09 15:21pm]

JayJai said:

What exactly did he clarify?

"Prince said he didn't cast a ballot for Barack Obama, nor officially come out on either side of Proposition 8, the gay marriage ban that controversially passed last month.

"I have friends that are gay and we study the Bible together," Prince, who's been a Jehovah's Witness for most of the last decade, said in reference to some remarks he made about gay marriage in a November New Yorker interview"

As shown above, the church Prince belongs to has a pretty firm answer as to what they think of homosexuality and gay marriage. Prince has clarified nothing. He played the 'some of my best friends are...' card because he's well aware that bad p.r. means even worse record sales for his already dwindling fan base.

If Prince isn't a brain-washed bigot, why doesn't he come out and actually clarify that he supports gay marriage or equal rights? Why doesn't he make a few simple statements instead of telling us who he studies the bible with? A bible study that's no doubt aimed at 'converting' his gay friends from their 'sinful' life. How can I make that leap? Because the religion he belongs to would advocate such a position.

Wall said:

since you believe that Prince is a brain-washed bigot, with bad record sales and dwindling fan base, then what? what are you gonna do? if he's that kind of person then what is your purpose here?

wonder505 said:

I know enquiring minds would like to know that one?

Chilli. He Did say that. I'm a HUGE PRINCE FAN and I acctually think HE DOESN"T BELIEVE IN GAY MARRIAGE, but I DON"T BELIEVE he said ALL That Stuff the NEW YORKER STATED and I KNOW he has to COVER His TAIL about that COMMENT or else all HELL IN HOLLYWOOD would be ALL OVER HIM. PRINCE is NOT CRAZY or PROMISCUOUS and he HAS CHANGED and the RELIGION Made him SEE things DIFFERENTLY.

JayJai said:

What exactly did he clarify?

"Prince said he didn't cast a ballot for Barack Obama, nor officially come out on either side of Proposition 8, the gay marriage ban that controversially passed last month.

"I have friends that are gay and we study the Bible together," Prince, who's been a Jehovah's Witness for most of the last decade, said in reference to some remarks he made about gay marriage in a November New Yorker interview"

As shown above, the church Prince belongs to has a pretty firm answer as to what they think of homosexuality and gay marriage. Prince has clarified nothing. He played the 'some of my best friends are...' card because he's well aware that bad p.r. means even worse record sales for his already dwindling fan base.

If Prince isn't a brain-washed bigot, why doesn't he come out and actually clarify that he supports gay marriage or equal rights? Why doesn't he make a few simple statements instead of telling us who he studies the bible with? A bible study that's no doubt aimed at 'converting' his gay friends from their 'sinful' life. How can I make that leap? Because the religion he belongs to would advocate such a position.

I know right. I've asked that question so many times here and rarely got an answer back.

purplecam said:

I know right. I've asked that question so many times here and rarely got an answer back.

wonder505 said:

It's like talking to a brick "wall" with some people in here.

wonder505 said:

I'm here to give my opinion on Prince and Prince's music. But I don't see how what's obvious is relevant to this thread. If you have a problem with my opinions, I suggest, to use an old message board cliche', you pass over them.