npggirl77 said:

It's a logical conclusion that Prince no longer votes because he's a JW. Occam's razor applies here. Prince is a 'colonized mind.'

Edit: Also, I'd suggest if your feelings are easily bruised over debate, try housequake.
[Edited 1/2/09 11:32am]

Wall said:

lol
my feelings are fine..*laughing*
*winks*
Only debating/discussing...gooodness...

Nothinbutjoy said:

can't wait!

RUHip2TheJive said:

I cannot wait either.
I am hoping that since the article stated something about "after the 2008 Holidays" that means he will go ahead and put one out sooooon!!!

babynoz said:

AMEN! Wal Mart is the Devil! Of course if they wanna sale it, theyll just have some bootlegs made up in China and put it on the shelf. Ask Adidas what theyre capable of doing! If it's only available in WalMart, I wont buy it till I see it on ebay or somewhere else. NO TO WALMART!

2009 IS GONNA BE FIRE !!! WHOOHOO!!!! WHO CARES ABOUTA RECESSION AS LONG AS THERE IS PRINCE MUSUC TO GROOVE TOO !!!

I think we would be lucky to get one of those albums. One word for his new protege...Tamar! Looking forward to whatever happens with Prince and anyone associated with him.

Wall said:

maybe, yes, but it's also a choice, as is the religious path he's chosen. Voting can be seen as following the herd, too. Why is one way better than another?

I vote now, after years of avoiding it, but there's part of me that understands the desire to be uninvolved in politics.

VinnyM27 said:

That's why I don't care about anything involving another one of Prince's proteges. Even when he was in his prime, most of the stuff from his proteges was sub-par. I can't even imagine how bad it'd be today.

PurpleKnight said:

You know, I never cared much about the protege's either. I have some like The Time and Sheila E and I'm interested in Bria and was interested in Tamar but I never ran to get them because Prince was involved. It's nice but I only care about Prince.

NDRU said:

Anything is following the herd if you can't arrive at your own conclusion through rational thought and reflection. As Churchill said, democracy is a terrible form of government save for all the rest.

As far as Prince goes, the irony of 'Colonized Mind' is that this is a man who has called for a 'theocratic order.' A theocratic order. Just let that sink in. A man who called for a 'theocratic order' sings without a hint of irony about 'colonized minds.'

Here is how I'd rate the songs he's shown us so far (all ratings out of five stars):

Colonized Mind

Wall of Berlin

4Ever

Crimson & Clover 1/2

There Will Never B Another 1 Like Me 1/2

Wall said:

well, I don't subscribe to the theocratic order, but to play devil's advocate, if a person believed their theology to be the absolute truth (which they probably should if they're going to believe in it), then the colonized mind would be about the minds that have been diverted from that truth by bad influences.

I don't have to agree with Prince's beliefs, but it doesn't always have to be that someone is a hypocrite or contradicts themselves just because we don't believe what they believe.

You quote Churchill and it's a great quote, but what weight does he carry that the bible or JW's don't? Where do you draw the line of which influences are worth subscribing to?

eyewishuheaven said:

THANK YOU! mzkqueen03's posting behavior is a severe detriment to this forum. I've reported it before but nothing was apparently done as she's still doing it.

PurpleKnight said:

I agree with your ratings except for 4ever...to me it's a song cause it's got all the classic Prince elements!!
[Edited 1/2/09 15:10pm]

NDRU said:

If you can't rationally come to sound conclusions on your own by examining factual data and the emprical world around you and not just what your elders have told you, then you are, like Prince, a colonized mind. Accepting that things and the world change and new data is always being presented and needing in turn to be examined.



Again, the man has called for a theocratic order. To then write a song called 'Colonized Mind' is the defintion of a hypocrite.



Because Churchill was English.

As far as what influences your life, again, I would suggest drawing from empirical evidence and rational thought then sorting it out with an even head and intelligent discussion. Inclusion of all people and ideas not exclusion and rights only for those who believe as you do (or calling for a theocratic order). Wasn't Prince even calling for women to submit to their husbands a few years ago? Good god.

markpeg said:

And with any luck, more than just Toronto and Montreal, too. Lil Dude's got a healthy fanbase out west he's been ignoring for quite a few years now.


psst, Prince! Come to Vancouver!

eyewishuheaven said:

Yeah I've had enough too. Maybe we should start a campaign or something

Wall said:

I stand corrected!

KoolEaze said:

I agree fully. Sure, sometimes certain posters lean towards being a little too harsh, but the constructive criticism is usually well thought out and informed. The "positivity" in this forum often veers way into becoming almost literal worship of the man. Prince has done a lot of great things in his career, and he's one helluva musician -that is why most of us are here -but he's not perfect. Everything he does and says is not gold. Some of it is even downright shameful or embarassing. Posters like Wall and others provide a healthy balance.

Truth be told, I tend to avoid M&M mostly because of the prevalence of emptyheaded worship. Other fansites dedicated to performers have intelligent debate and discussion over their heroes' work, and this one used to. But recently something has happened to the Org, and instead the Purple forum is filled with threads asking who Princey's gonna marry next, and how cute his ass is. (it is cute, but come on, people!) But worse than that, is this growing trend of temper tantrums being thrown by those who believe Mr. Nelson can do no wrong whenever they encounter someone who, rightly or wrongly, is offering up a critique. Those who dare do something besides fawn and grovel at his cute little high heels are called haters () and told to leave.

Dave1992 said:

Just report em!

ronnwinter said:

Why must people hate on Walmart because they are non-union? As with most institutions that were first started to help american workers and the underpriveledged (ie. social security, labor unions, wellfare) people exploit benefits (workers doing the bare minimum if they belong to the union, women living with boyfriends and having babies just to collect checks to live more comfortably while damaging kids' views of family and responsiblity). Walmart pays a fair wage and provides benefits. They aren't paying $20 an hour, but most of the jobs provided are for unskilled workers. What is important is they provide employment to Americans and right now that is a good thing. Sure they are non-union but they aren't using whips and chains to keep their workers in line. Unions were built at a time when humans were the machines and did hard labor that risked their health and at the time it was a protective measure for the american worker. I don't think anyone is going to be hurt re-folding a sweater in the kids section of Walmart. Humans will corrupt when given the chance. Not all, but the ones that do ruin it for all. That is what happened to labor unions and that is what is happening to the banks, car companies, and home owners burned by speculators.

What's more Walmart doesn't need a bail-out to keep it afloat. It is a great business plan behind a company that pays a good wage, and has a strong customer base. Can car companies say the same--the labor unions were part of the reason they are all bankrupt now.

Peace and love, peace- and- LOVE.
[Edited 1/2/09 15:38pm]

Spanky said:

Maybe it's just my weird little corner of the world, but I'd consider a fair wage one you can support yourself on without having to worry how the fuck you're going to pay rent and keep the heat on. Minimum wage -and the worse alternative, in those places that don't have it -amounts to wage slavery. No one expects to be living a cushy life, or even a middle class one, on a retail wage -but no one with an honest job should have to lay awake at night wondering where to get money for their kids' lunches.

meow85 said:

You know what to do in a situation like that? IGNORE THEM. I know I do that with a lot of threads in here. A lot the people who tell the "positive" ones to ignore the "negative" people need to follow their own advice with that one too. People may get challenged here and there for being too negative or too positive, as it happened to me in another thread, but that should NOT stop you from coming here and contributing if you have something to say. I'm sure there is common ground to be found here with all of us aside from us being Prince fans. I try to agree to disagree but sometimes I have to ask some questions as I'm sure many of you in here would do if something was off with someone in here. It is what it is but we can all co-exist together. Well I'd like to think that we can.

Spanky said:

I have nothing against Wal-Mart at all but I hate that we don't have one anywhere in NYC. A few pages ago, 2elijah said that the nearest Wal-Mart for New Yorkers to go to is in Long Island by the border of Queens. I live in The Bronx and that would mean having to take around 2 or 3 buses AND the subway (2 subway lines I'm sure) to get to it. I don't want to have to do that. That's just me on the matter.
[Edited 1/2/09 16:08pm]

purplecam said:

Yes cam, you are right. That happens to be the same Walmart where the security guy was trampled to death this past November, by a stampede of shoppers, rushing to get in the store, the day after Thanksgiving. It is the only Walmart that I know of that exist within the 5 boroughs of NYC.

I do not believe one exists in the Bronx, Brooklyn or Staten Island, but there is none whatsoever in Manhattan. The one I am talking about is pretty much just after you cross the Queens County line (1 long block) into Nassau County (Long Island) area. You would have to take the Long Island Railroad from Penn Station, 34th Street, if you're coming from Manhattan, which is around $7.00 to $8.00 (that's just a one-way ticket) to get there, and get off at Rosedale station in Queens, cross the street, across the highway and go left, and walk down about 3 or 4 blocks and you will be in the Nassau County area. That's the closest one. The next one closest to that one is near the Sunrise Mall in Massapequa (which you'll have to pass the Green Acres mall first) to get to that one, which is far.

But I just found out that they have quite a few in the Long Island area. In Uniondale, , Farmingdale, East Meadow, and in White Plains (WP location near Westchester), still too far for those that live in the 5 boroughs, other than the Queens residents that live close to the Nassau County line. None of these Walmarts are within the 5 boroughs of New York City.

As far as Target or BestBuy, I'm sure they have one in every borough of NYC. I hope he decides to sell it online too, if that is part of the plan, it is just so much easier.
[Edited 1/2/09 17:24pm]

PurpleKnight said:

because people want 2 trap him a certain time period perhaps?

the don't want 2 let go of the past?

the won't let a artist b all that they can b?

the don't realize they have more music in their arsenal than what they know?

well all these questions say a lot more about those people than Prince. and i 4 1 don't need 2 see him in arena's 2 have a good time. so if he chooses 2 do small intimate venues playing turn me loose and musicology ..that's fine by me

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PurpleKnight said:

Here's my ratings:


Colonized Mind

Wall of Berlin

4Ever

Crimson & Clover

There Will Never B Another 1 Like Me 1/2


LOTUS FLOWER is going to be the shit!!
[Edited 1/2/09 17:51pm]

purplecam said:

cam if u live in the bronx hop on the bee line 20 bus and it will take u in2 white plains where there is a wal mart