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Printablejaypotton said: There are many reasons why Prince doesn't (or possibly can't) write hit songs anymore and they include:
1. He is 50 and the kids who still buy singles (downloads) think he is an OLD man 2. People who grew up with Prince are now mostly in their 30s or 40s and we still buy albums (though most people buy less then they used to) 3. Have you listened to the majority of the crap kids listen to these days (and the radio programming that supports the crap)? 4. Have you noticed how most kids want to listen to "music" on their mobile phones! All that treble, very little bass, poor quality with no depth and therefore no need for "real musicians, real music" etc (damn I sound old, like my father when I wanted to listen to my cassettes on my Walkman!) 5. Does it really matter? Prince will never have another number 1 single. In fact number 1 doesn't mean what it used to. When Does Cry sold 2 million + copies in the USA. When did any single sell that quantity in the last five years? 6. In fact albums do not sell like they used to. PR was at number 1 for 26 weeks in the USA and sold over 16 million copies. That will never happen again for any artist not just Prince. 7. The real money is in live performance. Not many of today's artists could sell out 21 nights at a single venue (but if you looked at the crowd most of them were in their 30s and 40s). [Edited 12/22/08 10:45am] I also want to add that kids today dont even know what real instruments sound like so they wouldnt appreciate music in its purest form [Edited 12/22/08 13:15pm] | |
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sarkozyiszeman said: Donjuandeblacko said: I am deeply disappointed in the latest Prince tracks I've heard:-( they sound just like everything he has done since 1995. traditional rock band instrumentation and lifeless guitar riffs with sucky melodies!
I know the Prince kool-aid drinkers will saY its the greatest thing since creation but come on....he use to do real music that sounded different than everybody else that produced HITS! now he soumds like a Jimy hendrex tribute band! nothin new here..... what can we do to make him do REAL MUSIC hit music? God you must hate great guitar, bass and drums then cuz the last tracks are just amazingly played and arranged. That's real music. Like TRc was as well. Nothing to do with Mr Goodnight. I'm amazed how deaf some Prince fans are. Really.  I agree the tracks are played and arranged beautifully | |
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Donjuandeblacko said: I am deeply disappointed in the latest Prince tracks I've heard:-( they sound just like everything he has done since 1995. traditional rock band instrumentation and lifeless guitar riffs with sucky melodies!
I know the Prince kool-aid drinkers will saY its the greatest thing since creation but come on....he use to do real music that sounded different than everybody else that produced HITS! now he soumds like a Jimy hendrex tribute band! nothin new here..... what can we do to make him do REAL MUSIC hit music?  I agree. Hit's on the radio are something else entirely, I'm not expecting much there (for a variety of factors, not all he can control), but have been still waiting to hear new sounds, creativity that breaks new ground.
I'm not talking about amazing compositions, or the next Purple Rain. Just fresh synth blurbs or new signature tones/sounds/riffs that are unique identifiers for that song, because there's nothing out there like it. That's Prince. He's touched it a little on Musicology, 3121 but they were still conservative in that regard. Planet Earth and his current fare are even more traditional. Prince is focused now on the natural musical flow of a band with traditional sounds rather than crazy production editing and overdubbing. Just seems to be his vibe right now. Hopefully he'll hook up with some talented and creative band members who will inspire and challenge him again. 
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P has nothing left to prove to me. I.M.H.O he's done it all. And I agree with hollywooddove that the "Purple Rain" CD/LP is played out. It's my least favorite and I don't even own it on CD.
He's looking at life through a different perspective and has matured. Eveything about him now (religion/food/sex/clothes/values) has changed since 20 years ago. So you know that's going to affect his music. The 4 new songs I heard were in the right direction and a totally unexpected surprise (and I didn't dig his last 2 CD's). P owes me nothing. | |
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damned if he does ..damned if he don't  man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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i wanted to believe the title of this thread was a mistake...that it was simply a typo that caused write to be written as right.
but no...there is no way that could have happened, no matter how much i try to believe it. no other way of looking at it...retarded  Wouldn't you love to love me? | |
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People have written that he's 50, that's he's past his prime, that he has nothing to prove and doesn't care about "hits". . . all those things are true, but that does not explain the lack of quality music lately.
His singing and guitar work are still good, but they alone don't save a horrible song. That seems to be his M.O. lately -- gratuitous guitar work over substandard songs. |
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What we can do to make him do REAL MUSIC hit music is to stop living in the past. How many more times are we gonna go through this, orgers? Do we still have nothing better to do than to keep pining for him to make the next When Doves Cry?
Donjuandeblacko said: I am deeply disappointed in the latest Prince tracks I've heard:-( they sound just like everything he has done since 1995. traditional rock band instrumentation and lifeless guitar riffs with sucky melodies!
I know the Prince kool-aid drinkers will saY its the greatest thing since creation but come on....he use to do real music that sounded different than everybody else that produced HITS! now he soumds like a Jimy hendrex tribute band! nothin new here..... what can we do to make him do REAL MUSIC hit music? | |
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SPOOKYGAS said: Real Music and Hits?
yep like purple rain IM bringing sexy back!
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emesem said: He's tragically lost the ability to write a hook or a catchy chorus. The music is still somewhat there but the sound and production are stale and lack any sort of wild creativity that was still there even as late as 1995's TGE and bits of Emancipation.
Lyrically, he has avoided writing about real personal feelings except only to expose his warped view of religion and race and rail against the "man" who stole all his money. Ironically, it is exactly when P was freed of record labels when he began to sound more corporate, more formulaic and more stuck in his ways. They say you become the thing you hate, well there you go. There are still glimmers of real feelings that seep through the music once in a while (Reflection for example) and even though Prince always had a mask, he showed honesty and sensitivity but now it all seems like posturing and route regurgitation of old themes. [Edited 12/22/08 8:11am] RIGHT ON!  IM bringing sexy back!
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Se7en said:[quote]People have written that he's 50, that's he's past his prime, that he has nothing to prove and doesn't care about "hits". . . all those things are true, but that does not explain the lack of quality music lately.
Agree. But there aren't a lot of artists that last longer than 10 years and if they do,after 10 years the succes always fades away. The few that seem 2 last are the more traditional rock artists: Bruce Springsteen,Bon Jovi(still succesfull in Europe...unbelievable), Bryan Adams(no nr 1 hits but his new songs are played several times) and U2 (they are still good imo). And Prince never promotes his albums/singles that good....a big problem if he would want hits. [Edited 12/23/08 4:39am] Love4oneanother | |
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First off, worrying about chart positions is a true waste of time. That's how you end up with MJ's career. Without challenging his greatness, he chased hits way too long.
And "real music"? You actually said that? Opinions aside, it's all "real music". People around here act like everything he released pre-1990 was gold on a fucking stick. I hate to say it, but a lot of that shit was "meh" mixed in with some classic tunes. A whole lotta folks (many here who won't admit it) were asking this very same question when ATWIAD came out. And Parade. And Lovesexy, etc.... Nowadays, imho, maybe the meh/classic ratio has shifted towards more meh. Maybe after 30 +years its hard for folks to get as excited about new Prince music as it was it was all so fresh and new and most of us were much younger. Maybe his ideas about music have changed over that time (hopefully). Regardless, the music is still worth it for me. [Edited 12/23/08 9:21am] "What kind of fuck ending is that?" | |
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Donjuandeblacko said: I am deeply disappointed in the latest Prince tracks I've heard:-( they sound just like everything he has done since 1995. traditional rock band instrumentation and lifeless guitar riffs with sucky melodies!
I know the Prince kool-aid drinkers will saY its the greatest thing since creation but come on....he use to do real music that sounded different than everybody else that produced HITS! now he sounds like a Jimy hendrex tribute band! nothin new here..... what can we do to make him do REAL MUSIC hit music? [Edited 12/22/08 16:08pm] Why can't you spell write?? | |
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mplsmike said: Donjuandeblacko said: Why can't Prince right REAL music and HITS like he use to?
You might be write  surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
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It's hard to stay on top in the music industry.
Artists are under pressure to make hit songs. It is not that easy to be creative under pressure. Artists need to work at their own pace without having to be under pressure to make hit songs. I see it all the time. Once an artist is successful they are pressured to keep cranking out hit songs and the music quality is not good. It's all about making money off of the artist. | |
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annastesia1 said: It's hard to stay on top in the music industry.
Artists are under pressure to make hit songs. It is not that easy to be creative under pressure. Artists need to work at their own pace without having to be under pressure to make hit songs. I see it all the time. Once an artist is successful they are pressured to keep cranking out hit songs and the music quality is not good. It's all about making money off of the artist. Co-Sign...the business of the music industry is pathetic now  I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh | |
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ElCapitan said: First off, worrying about chart positions is a true waste of time. That's how you end up with MJ's career. Without challenging his greatness, he chased hits way too long.
And "real music"? You actually said that? Opinions aside, it's all "real music". People around here act like everything he released pre-1990 was gold on a fucking stick. I hate to say it, but a lot of that was shit was "meh" mixed in with some classic tunes. A whole lotta folks (many here who won't admit it) were asking this very same question when ATWIAD came out. And Parade. And Lovesexy, etc.... Nowadays, imho, maybe the meh/classic ratio has shifted towards more meh. Maybe after 30 +years its hard for folks to get as excited about new Prince music as it was it was all so fresh and new and most of us were much younger. Maybe his ideas about music have changed over that time (hopefully). Regardless, the music is still worth it for me. I've been saying this for years. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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I think he made better music he had Vanity as his muse, he thought differently, felt differently and had more imagination. Not calling everything he did after that NOT good because he still makes fantastic music but when he was under a label you can hear his eagerness to make great music and do things differently, He didnt rely on hits he had from the past. But his body of work is amazing and I know he's still got great albums inside of him to do | |
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sarkozyiszeman said: Donjuandeblacko said: I am deeply disappointed in the latest Prince tracks I've heard:-( they sound just like everything he has done since 1995. traditional rock band instrumentation and lifeless guitar riffs with sucky melodies!
I know the Prince kool-aid drinkers will saY its the greatest thing since creation but come on....he use to do real music that sounded different than everybody else that produced HITS! now he soumds like a Jimy hendrex tribute band! nothin new here..... what can we do to make him do REAL MUSIC hit music? God you must hate great guitar, bass and drums then cuz the last tracks are just amazingly played and arranged. That's real music. Like TRc was as well. Nothing to do with Mr Goodnight. I'm amazed how deaf some Prince fans are. Really. ah back to accusing people of being deaf You can NOT like something and still hear fine. Many intelligent people disagree without one being the only "right" one on an issue. I agree they are amazingly played. But it is WHAT is being payed that is underwhelming to me. And Again...so what? Just my opinion....and I can hit a note dead on called out of thin air. SO I'm nor deaf or tone deaf  |
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Lord, let the man do his thing. He's 50 emeffin years old. He can write what he wants or not. I believe he's stuck in a bit of a timewarp, but hey, he's entitled and he pimps that timewarp like no other. | |
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ElCapitan said: First off, worrying about chart positions is a true waste of time. That's how you end up with MJ's career. Without challenging his greatness, he chased hits way too long.
And "real music"? You actually said that? Opinions aside, it's all "real music". People around here act like everything he released pre-1990 was gold on a fucking stick. I hate to say it, but a lot of that shit was "meh" mixed in with some classic tunes. A whole lotta folks (many here who won't admit it) were asking this very same question when ATWIAD came out. And Parade. And Lovesexy, etc.... Nowadays, imho, maybe the meh/classic ratio has shifted towards more meh. Maybe after 30 +years its hard for folks to get as excited about new Prince music as it was it was all so fresh and new and most of us were much younger. Maybe his ideas about music have changed over that time (hopefully). Regardless, the music is still worth it for me. [Edited 12/23/08 9:21am] You're speaking the truth and I agree with you 100%. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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Donjuandeblacko said: I am deeply disappointed in the latest Prince tracks I've heard:-( they sound just like everything he has done since 1995. traditional rock band instrumentation and lifeless guitar riffs with sucky melodies!
I know the Prince kool-aid drinkers will saY its the greatest thing since creation but come on....he use to do real music that sounded different than everybody else that produced HITS! now he sounds like a Jimy hendrex tribute band! nothin new here..... what can we do to make him do REAL MUSIC hit music? [Edited 12/22/08 16:08pm] Like i said in another post --- he needs COMPETITION!!!! Now he's just literally resting on his (and those who came before him) laurels. | |
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Donjuandeblacko said: I am deeply disappointed in the latest Prince tracks I've heard:-( they sound just like everything he has done since 1995. traditional rock band instrumentation and lifeless guitar riffs with sucky melodies!
I know the Prince kool-aid drinkers will saY its the greatest thing since creation but come on....he use to do real music that sounded different than everybody else that produced HITS! now he sounds like a Jimy hendrex tribute band! nothin new here..... what can we do to make him do REAL MUSIC hit music? [Edited 12/22/08 16:08pm] That sums up what I've been trying to post quite well. Nicely stated. Its very odd. He said about 15 years ago that writing those type of songs was like brushing his teeth (something like that), i.e., easy, and it was like he could back in the day, but its like he made a deal with the devil never to write a good funky piece again. Has he broken the deal? Whats with the "controversy" rumor. Hmmm. We shall see. | |
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Jatrig said: Donjuandeblacko said: I am deeply disappointed in the latest Prince tracks I've heard:-( they sound just like everything he has done since 1995. traditional rock band instrumentation and lifeless guitar riffs with sucky melodies!
I know the Prince kool-aid drinkers will saY its the greatest thing since creation but come on....he use to do real music that sounded different than everybody else that produced HITS! now he sounds like a Jimy hendrex tribute band! nothin new here..... what can we do to make him do REAL MUSIC hit music? [Edited 12/22/08 16:08pm] competitiion? he ought to be tired of getting his azz whipped by lenny kravitv and U2 Like i said in another post --- he needs COMPETITION!!!! Now he's just literally resting on his (and those who came before him) laurels. IM bringing sexy back!
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mplsmike said: Donjuandeblacko said: Why can't Prince right REAL music and HITS like he use to?
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Donjuandeblacko said: I am deeply disappointed in the latest Prince tracks I've heard:-( they sound just like everything he has done since 1995. traditional rock band instrumentation and lifeless guitar riffs with sucky melodies!
I know the Prince kool-aid drinkers will saY its the greatest thing since creation but come on....he use to do real music that sounded different than everybody else that produced HITS! now he sounds like a Jimy hendrex tribute band! nothin new here..... what can we do to make him do REAL MUSIC hit music? [Edited 12/22/08 16:08pm] The dude that says his favorite Prince "album" is I Want To Be Your Lover (wtf?) is posting again... Shit, I would rather read a post from Wall than read this bait shit..Ha!...At least he's not faking on some shock posting.... Damn homie...lol...u give true critics of the Midget a real bad name... [Edited 12/23/08 18:49pm] | |
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Donjuandeblacko said: SPOOKYGAS said: Real Music and Hits?
yep like purple rain That was 1984! These times my friend are some what different...evolve and dont look back. [Edited 12/23/08 20:35pm] |
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JayJai said: annastesia1 said: It's hard to stay on top in the music industry.
Artists are under pressure to make hit songs. It is not that easy to be creative under pressure. Artists need to work at their own pace without having to be under pressure to make hit songs. I see it all the time. Once an artist is successful they are pressured to keep cranking out hit songs and the music quality is not good. It's all about making money off of the artist. Co-Sign...the business of the music industry is pathetic now Just to add to this, here's an example: Taylor Swift was on Ellen Degeneres' show yesterday and said she been waitin for TWO YEARS for her album to be released. I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh | |
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murph said: Donjuandeblacko said: I am deeply disappointed in the latest Prince tracks I've heard:-( they sound just like everything he has done since 1995. traditional rock band instrumentation and lifeless guitar riffs with sucky melodies!
I know the Prince kool-aid drinkers will saY its the greatest thing since creation but come on....he use to do real music that sounded different than everybody else that produced HITS! now he sounds like a Jimy hendrex tribute band! nothin new here..... what can we do to make him do REAL MUSIC hit music? [Edited 12/22/08 16:08pm] The dude that says his favorite Prince "album" is I Want To Be Your Lover (wtf?) is posting again... Shit, I would rather read a post from Wall than read this bait shit..Ha!...At least he's not faking on some shock posting.... Damn homie...lol...u give true critics of the Midget a real bad name... [Edited 12/23/08 18:49pm] Are you serious? I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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purplecam said: murph said: The dude that says his favorite Prince "album" is I Want To Be Your Lover (wtf?) is posting again... Shit, I would rather read a post from Wall than read this bait shit..Ha!...At least he's not faking on some shock posting.... Damn homie...lol...u give true critics of the Midget a real bad name... [Edited 12/23/08 18:49pm] Are you serious? not about me about us saving prince before he becomes terrance trent darby IM bringing sexy back!
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