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Reply #60 posted 12/22/08 2:04am

HamsterHuey

Of all five new songs leaked last week I really dig Crimson & Clover and Colonized Mind the best. It's part of the sound of Planet Earth that I like so much, but amped up. Of Crimson & Clover I love the fact he Prince'd it up, but sound-wise I was very shocked to find out he kept the original sound so close to the original, even the sound effect on the guitar and the way he sings it.
He took out the really dated parts of the song and threw in some Jimi and some great guitar playing. I think this is the best cover he's done since Just My Imagination, which is what this reminds me of a lot.
Crimson & Clover is easily the best single/radio material of the new songs. It sounds so effortlessly and easy and is great to hum along to.

I like Colonized Mind because it pours so many last decade Prince topics into a song format that is great to listen to; it’s not only interesting lyrically, but also musically; but both are not as hard to get into The War or One Song, that both handled topics close to Prince’s heart, but were harder to digest in both music and lyrical content; especially the last here is crafted way more intricately than other of his ‘topic’-songs.
When it comes to songs stepping out of the verse/chorus/verse/chorus-straight-jacket, Colonized Mind to me is his most interesting song since One Nite Alone, that also had interesting forms painting colours. I love it when it at least sounds as if Prince did some work to craft more challenging songs.

Like I said, I am reminded of Planet Earth when I listen to these songs; it has got that laid back vibe of it, but mixed some One Nite Alone-ish feel. I liked both albums, but I must admit I do not play either album much after their initial release. I share this info with you because the first two songs, if released proper, I would play ova and ova, while the other two new songs from the seemingly new album, do have the same laid-back feel, but aren’t as time-less as the first two previewed song; they’re not amazing new Prince compositions I would want to include on any of my future playlists.

Wall Of Berlin is fun and is rather nice but nothing more than that; the lyrics are too forgettable, the most great thing about it is the guitar playing, that lifts the song up above the guitar work on, say Musicology and makes the song at least interesting enough to play more often.
4Ever to me sounds like the extended version of My Computer on Emancipation, and has got that too smooth Emancipation sound and I want to keep singing ‘a better life’ throughout the entire song. Yet, it is better than My Computer, as it is more straight-forward and is a bit un-smoothed by the guitar.

Of all the songs previewed last week I like (There’ll Never b) Another Like Me the least for a few reasons.

One of them is that it has that plactic pastiche sound of the NPGmc tracks, which is to me the most un-interesting sound Prince ever produced.

Another is that it does not fit very well with the other four songs and therefore stands out, but not in a good way; it sounds rather bleak compared to the warm feel of the other four songs and therefore pales significantly, not only musically, but also lyrically. It is just too silly; even the weaker of the other four songs kicks this song’s ass and he’s just done these kind of songs way better before.

If this is what Prince likes to dance to these days, can someone please send him some cd’s of the Ting Tings? Thanks.
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Reply #61 posted 12/22/08 12:14pm

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I'm digging the drums on this track ..i wonder if it's prince, cora or john behind the drums hmmm
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #62 posted 12/22/08 12:16pm

CJanssen

ImAKawak said:

remko said:



somebody did.

Really? I checked but haven't seen it yet. Which thread. question



comfort see last post on page one of THIS thread
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Reply #63 posted 12/22/08 1:06pm

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I am loving it.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #64 posted 12/22/08 1:53pm

tainacher

I really like the rhythm and the end of the track is great.
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Reply #65 posted 12/22/08 2:37pm

remko

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ImAKawak said:

remko said:



somebody did.

Really? I checked but haven't seen it yet. Which thread. question


this one? page 1.
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Reply #66 posted 12/22/08 2:49pm

HamsterHuey

remko said:

ImAKawak said:


Really? I checked but haven't seen it yet. Which thread. question


this one? page 1.


What page yer on depends on your settings. To me, this thread is still on page one; I hate clicking 'next page'-buttons, but loooove the scroll roller.
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Reply #67 posted 12/22/08 2:51pm

remko

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HamsterHuey said:

remko said:



this one? page 1.


What page yer on depends on your settings. To me, this thread is still on page one; I hate clicking 'next page'-buttons, but loooove the scroll roller.


OK, reply #29.
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Reply #68 posted 12/22/08 7:00pm

Tame

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Prince gets so deep.

I'd really like 2 know what He means by, "according 2 the document, she got on the wall."
"The Lion Sleeps Tonight...
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Reply #69 posted 12/22/08 9:12pm

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[Edited 12/9/09 8:47am]
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #70 posted 12/22/08 11:24pm

ImAKawak

CJanssen said:

ImAKawak said:


Really? I checked but haven't seen it yet. Which thread. question



comfort see last post on page one of THIS thread

Oh duh, I must be blind. doh!
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Reply #71 posted 12/22/08 11:29pm

ImAKawak

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WALL OF BERLIN
Where am eye?
Universe of paradoxical design
Reality merely in the mind
In my head or in some German town
She said “U want a 4 leafed clover in the ground”

Ain’t Superstitious and eye don’t believe in luck
Eye heard the thunder b4 the lightning struck
Couldn’t read the writing cuz it was so small
But according 2 the document she got on the wall

She is down, like the wall of Berlin
Eye come round about a quarter 2 10
We just met, oh at least we pretend
It’s so fresh knocking down the wall of Berlin

Where am eye?
Galaxy of monumental delight
Or parallel hologram copyright
The car comes unexpected like a mother in the park
The sound of a train, it erupts the question mark

I Like it…
Who r u gonna b 2night baby?
Is that the queen of Sheba or an alien dream
The marks on the table say somewhere inbetween
Not one 4 rituals but one thing eye’ve found
Everything’s better when U come around

We get down, like the wall of Berlin
Eye come round about a quarter 2 10
We just met, oh at least we pretend
It’s so fresh knocking down the wall of Berlin

Like the wall of Berlin
Like the wall of Berlin

Here it is. biggrin
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Reply #72 posted 12/22/08 11:52pm

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[Edited 12/9/09 8:48am]
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #73 posted 12/23/08 12:43am

iloveannie

It's very much like Hendrix's Fire. Wonder why he's written two songs with such a Hendrix feel or reference (Crimson and Clover obviously)?

The whole four may become growers but lack the immediate wow factor. But I'm still pleased we've got some new material.
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Reply #74 posted 12/23/08 1:10am

HamsterHuey

iloveannie said:

Wonder why he's written two songs with such a Hendrix feel or reference (Crimson and Clover obviously)?


Again, Crimson And Clover is NOT a Prince composition. It's a cover.
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Reply #75 posted 12/23/08 5:12am

lezama

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So this song is about doing German virgins right?
Change it one more time..
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Reply #76 posted 12/23/08 9:21am

remko

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I just keep wondering: what is (or was) the wall of Berlin? Or does he really mean the Berlin Wall? Wouldn't he have said so if that's the case?
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Reply #77 posted 12/23/08 9:28am

iloveannie

HamsterHuey said:

iloveannie said:

Wonder why he's written two songs with such a Hendrix feel or reference (Crimson and Clover obviously)?


Again, Crimson And Clover is NOT a Prince composition. It's a cover.


So I understand. But what about the Foxy Lady lyric and Wild Thing riff? It still sounds like Hendrix to me. In places. The obvious places.

How lucky we are on the Org to bicker about some daft song. We obviously have no other worries, issues or concerns in our lives.
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Reply #78 posted 12/23/08 10:40am

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Not bad. At the very least, the chorus is catchy. Most of the rest of the song is kind of forgettable though.
The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.

"You still wanna take me to prison...just because I won't trade humanity for patriotism."
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Reply #79 posted 12/23/08 11:21am

shanti0608

I have a hard time listening to the entire song.

I miss old Prince.

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Reply #80 posted 12/23/08 11:30am

PurpleKnight

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shanti0608 said:

I have a hard time listening to the entire song.

I miss old Prince.

mad


I know what you mean. After listening to the new stuff, I threw on Open Book. The difference was anything but negligible.

Prince has seemingly lost his knack for crafting seamlessly catchy songs that are simultaneously clever.
The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.

"You still wanna take me to prison...just because I won't trade humanity for patriotism."
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Reply #81 posted 12/23/08 11:32am

shanti0608

PurpleKnight said:

shanti0608 said:

I have a hard time listening to the entire song.

I miss old Prince.

mad


I know what you mean. After listening to the new stuff, I threw on Open Book. The difference was anything but negligible.

Prince has seemingly lost his knack for crafting seamlessly catchy songs that are simultaneously clever.


Yes, I had to back and listen to some old stuff. I feel better now.
lol
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Reply #82 posted 12/23/08 12:14pm

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shanti0608 said:

PurpleKnight said:



I know what you mean. After listening to the new stuff, I threw on Open Book. The difference was anything but negligible.

Prince has seemingly lost his knack for crafting seamlessly catchy songs that are simultaneously clever.


Yes, I had to back and listen to some old stuff. I feel better now.
lol


Wall of Berlin is a better song than Open Book, no question. Open Book is a poor man's version of Crucial. smile
"Don't you think one of the charms of marriage is that it makes deception a necessity for both parties?"
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Reply #83 posted 12/23/08 2:19pm

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lspear76 said:

Wall of Berlin is a better song than Open Book, no question. Open Book is a poor man's version of Crucial. smile


It always cracks me up when I read one of these comparative statements in which the "good" song is one that I consider completely pedestrian. If the choices are Open Book and Wall of Berlin, I'll take the latter every time.
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Reply #84 posted 12/23/08 2:37pm

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PurpleKnight said:

shanti0608 said:

I have a hard time listening to the entire song.

I miss old Prince.

mad


I know what you mean. After listening to the new stuff, I threw on Open Book. The difference was anything but negligible.

Prince has seemingly lost his knack for crafting seamlessly catchy songs that are simultaneously clever.


I can find plenty of songs from the old Prince that I don't consider catchy. The distinction between old and new isn't as relevant as what ones taste is, and that, as the Org has always been testament to, varies widely from person to person!
Change it one more time..
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Reply #85 posted 12/23/08 3:07pm

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[Edited 12/9/09 8:48am]
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #86 posted 12/23/08 5:32pm

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livewire said:

lspear76 said:

Wall of Berlin is a better song than Open Book, no question. Open Book is a poor man's version of Crucial. smile


It always cracks me up when I read one of these comparative statements in which the "good" song is one that I consider completely pedestrian. If the choices are Open Book and Wall of Berlin, I'll take the latter every time.


I wasn't actually comparing the two songs. I was just using a random old song I like as an example of what I feel Prince hasn't been able to do for me with his new material.
The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.

"You still wanna take me to prison...just because I won't trade humanity for patriotism."
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Reply #87 posted 12/23/08 9:11pm

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[Edited 12/9/09 8:49am]
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #88 posted 12/23/08 9:44pm

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mzkqueen03 said:

...a change is caused by unexpected means....could b a physical change..but it could indicate in a way u think and look at life...most people FEAR change..and will do anything 2 avoid it....THE CHANGE IS INEVITABLE and usually has a profound effect upon ones future....

...mzsexybaby sexy


What the fuck are you talking about?!
The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.

"You still wanna take me to prison...just because I won't trade humanity for patriotism."
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Reply #89 posted 12/23/08 10:01pm

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[Edited 12/9/09 8:49am]
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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