i complainded that thread was locked and it was locked but i complained to ben and somehow thread started to be unlocked .
chilich0ol if u dont want to discuss this subject,get the funk out of here

iloveannie said:

Lol, all of these musician vs musician threads are pointless. Some would like Sid Vicious over Larry Graham. It's mostly a matter of opinion...

its not pointless,it realy show your opinions some are valid sopme are not.

thebanishedone said:

I mean "pointless" in the sense that some people will always feel how they feel no matter what "evidence" there is to the contrary. Nah, a thread is always fun, even when it compares apples to oranges or tries to make a case that no sane person could argue.

In the case of Prince "vs" Clapton, if you compare their styles and how they make music, that's pretty cool. If you try to say that one is "better" than the other, rather than "I prefer" one over the other, then you're on shakier ground.

toots said:

I admire both guitarists styles. I think they can't be compared since they are completely different types of players. Eric loves to do his blues thing which he is brilliant at and I don't blame him for sticking to what he does best. Prince is good at many disciplines and loves to show off about that and I love him for that too.

thebanishedone said:

Ahhhh go suck on a banana

BTW Eric just sounds like elevator music to me Everytime I hear something of his I want to take a nap

sometimes I wish there was a forum for you people who insist on doing these Prince vs.... threads, just so you can all get it out of your system before we move on to read topics of discussion.

Alasseon said:

No, it is pointless. But on with the orange thing, I recently happened upon a video of a girl with a handful of oranges. Well I can't help but think that what she did with them was possibly more fun due to it being with oranges and not apples. Either way I really doubt she could have fitted two Claptons in her front bottom and one Prince in her botpot.

iloveannie said:

From your statement you made it is very clear that you do not know about the different styles of guitar playing,let alone music, and Carlos is a different guitar player.
You see,santana has a unique combination of different rhythms and carlos just adds to it.
He is not boaring just because he dont solo the way you like or is accustom to.

lewdew said:

He doesn't bore you but he sure bores me. I'd rather listen to Coldplay ffs! Anyway matey it was my opinion not anyone else's I was spouting so if I want to say Santana makes me want to poke my eyes out with boiled carrots I will. If you want my opinion on how good a musician he is then I would say he is fantastic. I could say the same about System of a Down's musicianship. I'd rather not listen to either though thanks. Give me a bit of Prince anyday (apart from his dull stuff when he sounds almost as lifeless as Carlos Santana)



"skulks off to another room where he may be entitled to an opinion and not be expected to give a critical analysis instead"

lewdew said:

Actually, you gobby shite, where are you coming from stating that about me!!! I'm very sorry if you didn't see the humour in my post or recognise that it was a throwaway comment. I know it is difficult to use sarcasm in written form like this but for heaven's sake who stuck you on the soapbox!? I've made it very clear that I know nothing about various styles of music!? FFS I'm 37 and haven't exactly pigeonholed my music over the years. I've played guitar for the last 21 years and funnily enough have listened to enough players to know there are many styles. Gorden Bennet, and there was me thinking there were only three or four types of music in the world! What an effin retard I am. If only I'd looked in my local record shop perhaps I'd have noticed that beyond Pop/Rock there is another section altogether. Hell, I may have even got to the world music and bluegrass bit!

Well thanks for putting me straight, I'll go out now and force myself to listen to Carlos Bloody Santana straight away. At least if my ears start to bleed it'll keep me awake for more than the twenty minutes I can usually stomach.

I will totally agree with banishedone, Clapton is a lovely player but is ultimately overrated and basically hasn't done shit with a guitar in many years.

Whereas Prince still, to this day, amazes with his innovative style, even if it is on shite songs like the Crimson and Clover cover.

Of course prince is gonna win this ridiculous thread,this is home turf.
Clampton is a great player,and so is carlos , and prince too!
I just dissagree with people who have no musical knowledge comparing or slamming artist they dont know about - its called ignorance - not knowing.

lewdew said:

I will willingly admitt I have no "musical knowledge" as far as being any kind of qualified critic or musician myself knows,....however...I do know what I like and what I dont like and I am not up for comparing Prince with Eric or anyone else, what I will say though is that despite alot of musical people I do know professng Eric Claptons genius is simply lost on me because I really do find his music a bit snooze worthy...thats just my personal taste speaking of course.
However I do love Carlos Santana and I think he is brilliant...but thats just me

lewdew said:

There's going to be a winner? Oh, good.

Sorry we don't meet your standards.

As it goes, I think the real ignorance here is your statement above. It's pure intellectual snobbery. There is no set level of knowledge required in order to share an opinion. Granted, an opinion with the weight of knowledge behind it is worth more than a simple 'slamming', as you put it.

Unfortunately, the majority of the slamming on this thread is not directed towards Clapton or Prince, but towards the author and those who decided to share their opinions on the subject.

Now that I agree with, wholeheartedly. Except his name is Clapton. And I hate to be picky, but that opinion - while it was short, snappy, and to the point - quite frankly doesn't meet the standard required to be of any value to the discussion at hand, as it doesn't really allow us to appreciate the breadth of your musical knowledge. For all we know, you know bugger all about Clapton. You've already spelt his name wrong. Twice. So, sorry, must do better.

(that was a joke, btw).

AsylumUtopia said:

Thanks for the spelling lesson,yea i know how to spell,and i do know about clampton.
Im not gonna brag about my musical exp to you or anyone,but as like allways,you gotta prove it -and i aint gonna do that either ,well mabey later!

LOL @ ClaMpton

someone who evolved his music from a different era and a different style for more than a decade before Prinse Rogerz Nielsen (sic) came in. You can't compare them, as each of them excel in their field. Similar example as before, it's like comparing Dolly Parton with The Scorpions.....

they both are cool guitar players but Buckethead is the man when it comes to guitar.

smiler69 said:

I'd love to hear Dolly cover some Scorps. Maybe her best bet would be 'Still Loving You'. Why not?

chilicohacolic clapton have a lot of borring songs but i will recomand you some realy great eric clapton songs:
broken down
blue eyes blue
my father eyes
marry you(great funk number with b.b.king)
behind the mask
forever man
grand ilusion(simply for the guitar):
and we go to the list of songs that are amazing and all are inspired with the same woman, patty boyd:
layla (electric original)
bell bothom blues
old love
bad love
wonderful tonight

if you want to hear clapton at his best as a guitar player where he realy shines go for:
derec and the dominoes-live at fillmore (amazing playing by clapton,he never played like this before or after its a transition in his playing after which he started to regress)

cream-sunshine of your love,tales of brave ullyssis(first ever song to contain wan wah ) ,swlabl,deserted cities of the heart,white room,we are going wrong,sitting on the top of the world,badge,politician.

eric's period with cream was the only period where he was the
most inovative .
his solos were hard and heavy and his riffs were almost metal.
if you listen to sunshine of your love and you listen to that
solo you probobly think:wow,where this guy could go only if he wants,
but somehow eric was more happy at playing robert johnsons standard then delivering what realy is in him.

thebanishedone said:

Okay, well I have heard a couple fo those songs such as layla. I dont really like layla, but just because u have been so kind as to type out all that for me I'll have a listen to some of the ones I dont know just for u

I suppose you could have a decent comparison if you had an 'Unplugged' album for BOTH artists...

It's already been said but I do think it is very difficult to compare two musicians as it will ultimately be subjective (ie your personal taste and preference).

I am NOT a musician but to my untrained ears I would say that Clapton and Prince have very different playing styles.

To MY ears Prince's "style" of guitar playing is more similar to Santana's.

Personally I have great respect for Clapton but I far prefer Prince's music etc and that also effects my opinion of his guitar skills.

clapton style on guitar had many phases ,he even had santana phase.

check out eric clapton's group "blind faith "and their song"do what you like"
eric clapton played a carbon copy of santana like guitar solo.
prince sometimes echoes santana but the way he plays licks and bends sounds like jimi and eddie hazel.

"they both are cool guitar players but Buckethead is the man when it comes to guitar"...

I agree. Buck is probably my favorite modern guitarist. He can play all styles from funk to fusion/shred to obscure-ambient stuff.


And for the record I love and respect Eric Clapton, but I think he is waaaay overrated.

thebanishedone said:

I have to disagree with you on this part... I pretty much know what to expect when Prince takes the guitar. He's got a certain "vocabulary" with the guitar, and he himself doesn't really stray too far from it.

how do you know what to expect?
every player have his licks but prince playes diffrent type of licks on diffrent styles of music.

thebanishedone said:

I never said Prince didn't play different licks on different types of music. I said he had a certain vocabulary -- not a limited vocabulary by any means, but a vocabulary nonetheless.

Let's put it this way: although I am always impressed by his playing, I am rarely surprised.

Maybe because I've seen/heard so much music by him?

Se7en said:

Same can be said of Eric Clapton, Carlos Santana and Eddie Van Halen.

Se7en said:

Couldn't agree more. You kind of always know where he's going. Little bit of mucking about down the bottom end with plenty of feedback and then a few triplets at the dusty end and then run back down to the seventh fret with lots of wah. Hasn't changed that much since Let's Go Crazy really when you think about it Apart from some whammy every now and then.

Still love it though (even though saying that still gets banished's heckles up).
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