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Reply #30 posted 12/14/08 9:59pm

pacey68

SPOOKYGAS said:

funktank said:

Liverpool? I think they are pretty proud they're from Manchester and like to make sure everyone knows it.

As for Gold being similar to Champage Supernova - I can't hear it at all I'm afraid.

They're both quality tunes though.


So why is it that every time I hear 'their' (cough) tunes I keep hearing the BEATLES? Didn't arse wipe no 2 call his progeny LENNON?

Correct in the Liverpool connection but wrong band reference. It's an accepted fact that Oasis blatantly stole from 90s Liverpool band The Real People. They were given some of their earliest support gigs by this band, recorded their early demos at RP's studios in Liverpool, RP bassist Tony sings backing on first Oasis single Supersonic, they get royalties from a couple of Oasis songs that Noel "wrote", Oasis sound like The Real People.

The first time I heard them, a demo of Columbia on the radio, I thought it was The Real People. But it's old news and the ground has been covered many times.

As for Gold vs Supernova, I can't see it either but both were released around the same time (Oasis in Oct 95... Gold was when? Late 95?) so I doubt that either artist heard the other song first.
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Reply #31 posted 12/15/08 3:10pm

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pacey68 said:

SPOOKYGAS said:



So why is it that every time I hear 'their' (cough) tunes I keep hearing the BEATLES? Didn't arse wipe no 2 call his progeny LENNON?

Correct in the Liverpool connection but wrong band reference. It's an accepted fact that Oasis blatantly stole from 90s Liverpool band The Real People. They were given some of their earliest support gigs by this band, recorded their early demos at RP's studios in Liverpool, RP bassist Tony sings backing on first Oasis single Supersonic, they get royalties from a couple of Oasis songs that Noel "wrote", Oasis sound like The Real People.

The first time I heard them, a demo of Columbia on the radio, I thought it was The Real People. But it's old news and the ground has been covered many times.

As for Gold vs Supernova, I can't see it either but both were released around the same time (Oasis in Oct 95... Gold was when? Late 95?) so I doubt that either artist heard the other song first.
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I okay then wrong band my arse....what U talkin about accepted fact? accepted by who, U? The circle's I mix in then and now (and thats two seperate continents) believe Oasis to be the Beatles's tribute band...who the hell are these 'real people' never heard of them.
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Reply #32 posted 12/15/08 5:40pm

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Okay, major fan of Princes music here, but unlike many here I also like some other music outside of the Paisley Universe. Now upfront I'll say that I generally believe the G-brothers to be a pair of obnoxious wankers (hmmm, let's face it, it's not like Prince has never been very much guilty of the same thing at times...), but they still can occasionally make some very cool music. I find it a great irony that many people here don't like Oasis and wouldn't bother to give their music a chance because of their Arrogant Wanker personas, because let's face it, that is EXACTLY why 90% of the planet don't give Princes music a chance, because of his Uppity Wanker persona... funny really, don't you think?

Okay, so I've just listened to the 2 tracks back to back - and in reality Champagne Supernova is head and shoulders superior to Gold in every way: musically, sonically, lyrically, vocally and production-wise.
But this is a prince site, where to the famatics, nothing anyone else EVER did will ever be compared better to their idol...

But ask that same question anywhere else, get people to listen and make a balanced judgement, and I'd guess the majority will rule in favour of the better song: Champagne Supernova...
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Reply #33 posted 12/15/08 5:52pm

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FlamingRaindrop said: jgdkjkjvbjvbv bjkv b.j b.j b.


Utter shite!

Prince has talent to go along with being 'a wanker'the brother's grim have a tribute act and are big wanker's! As 4 the comparison betwix said tracks...wtf are u on about...who are u william orbit?

But ask that same question anywhere else, get people to listen and make a balanced judgement, and I'd guess the majority will rule in favour of the better song: Gold..[/quote]
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Reply #34 posted 12/15/08 7:02pm

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similarities?!



Gold is awesome, positive, spiritual.

Champagne Supernova is pestilent whiny garbage and sucks big old donkey balls.
I feel cool. Alive. Aware, that I'm sinking
The firmament is swallowing me whole
and I'm on a roll again.
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Reply #35 posted 12/15/08 7:16pm

FlamingRaindro
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SPOOKYGAS said:

FlamingRaindrop said: jgdkjkjvbjvbv bjkv b.j b.j b.


Utter shite!

Prince has talent to go along with being 'a wanker'the brother's grim have a tribute act and are big wanker's! As 4 the comparison betwix said tracks...wtf are u on about...who are u william orbit?

But ask that same question anywhere else, get people to listen and make a balanced judgement, and I'd guess the majority will rule in favour of the better song: Gold..

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Reply #36 posted 12/15/08 7:21pm

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Champagne Supernova is a much better pop song. While the Gold period was the last time Prince seemed at all relevant, the song Gold is, at best, a meager rewrite of Purple Rain that sounds more fitting for a Special Olympics advert than it does for an album.
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Reply #37 posted 12/15/08 7:44pm

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Wall said:

Champagne Supernova is a much better pop song. While the Gold period was the last time Prince seemed at all relevant, the song Gold is, at best, a meager rewrite of Purple Rain that sounds more fitting for a Special Olympics advert than it does for an album.



Is that humour?

Relevant to who? U, or are you just another one of the many on here who speaketh as if though was GOD?
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Reply #38 posted 12/15/08 8:13pm

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SPOOKYGAS said:

Wall said:

Champagne Supernova is a much better pop song. While the Gold period was the last time Prince seemed at all relevant, the song Gold is, at best, a meager rewrite of Purple Rain that sounds more fitting for a Special Olympics advert than it does for an album.



Is that humour?

Relevant to who? U, or are you just another one of the many on here who speaketh as if though was GOD?


Relevant to anyone with an iota of aesthetic sensibility. And you don't think people on a Prince site might be biased in answering a question such as this, do you? Don't bother replying, your Prince-bonics says it all.
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Reply #39 posted 12/15/08 8:27pm

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Wall said:

SPOOKYGAS said:




Is that humour?

Relevant to who? U, or are you just another one of the many on here who speaketh as if though was GOD?


Relevant to anyone with an iota of aesthetic sensibility. And you don't think people on a Prince site might be biased in answering a question such as this, do you? Don't bother replying, your Prince-bonics says it all.
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What is this a dictatorship? I will reply to whatever I see fit.

Pseudointellectual's and I dont generally get on so 'that' maybe says it all.

Reply if U like 4 eye 4 1 would love to absorb U'r thoughts more on what it is that I should consider relevant.
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Reply #40 posted 12/15/08 8:32pm

Wall

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SPOOKYGAS said:

Wall said:



Relevant to anyone with an iota of aesthetic sensibility. And you don't think people on a Prince site might be biased in answering a question such as this, do you? Don't bother replying, your Prince-bonics says it all.
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What is this a dictatorship? I will reply to whatever I see fit.

Pseudointellectual's and I dont generally get on so 'that' maybe says it all.

Reply if U like 4 eye 4 1 would love to absorb U'r thoughts more on what it is that I should consider relevant.


Right on.
No hard feelings.
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Reply #41 posted 12/15/08 8:34pm

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Wall said:

SPOOKYGAS said:



What is this a dictatorship? I will reply to whatever I see fit.

Pseudointellectual's and I dont generally get on so 'that' maybe says it all.

Reply if U like 4 eye 4 1 would love to absorb U'r thoughts more on what it is that I should consider relevant.


Right on.


No problemo our kid.
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Reply #42 posted 12/15/08 8:59pm

smiler69

Oasis uses rifts from Beatles-related songs, most noticably While My Guitar Gently Weeps, and even nods to Gary Glitter at the end of another song.

Some of their songs are ok, but they were and are overhyped just because of the image they like to portray. Blur were much better musically and we have had Gorillaz courtesy of Damon Alburn too.

As for comparison between Gold and CS? The length, repeated lines, longish instrumentals and you can sing along to both happily. One has meaning, the other is abstract.
This is what it's like in the dream factory...
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Reply #43 posted 12/17/08 5:50am

pacey68

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pacey68 said:


Correct in the Liverpool connection but wrong band reference. It's an accepted fact that Oasis blatantly stole from 90s Liverpool band The Real People. They were given some of their earliest support gigs by this band, recorded their early demos at RP's studios in Liverpool, RP bassist Tony sings backing on first Oasis single Supersonic, they get royalties from a couple of Oasis songs that Noel "wrote", Oasis sound like The Real People.

The first time I heard them, a demo of Columbia on the radio, I thought it was The Real People. But it's old news and the ground has been covered many times.

As for Gold vs Supernova, I can't see it either but both were released around the same time (Oasis in Oct 95... Gold was when? Late 95?) so I doubt that either artist heard the other song first.
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I okay then wrong band my arse....what U talkin about accepted fact? accepted by who, U? The circle's I mix in then and now (and thats two seperate continents) believe Oasis to be the Beatles's tribute band...who the hell are these 'real people' never heard of them.


Well maybe you should listen to them before making an uninformed comment. The circles I mix in who have actually heard both bands agree with the statement I made in my post. An accepted fact insofar that it has been mentioned in many articles in the music press, books on the band, documentaries etc.

Do your homework before dismissing my comments out of hand, maybe you'll discover who really gets the royalties for the song Rocking Chair for instance.

Beatles tribute band... your arse indeed! The Beatles progressed musically and played varied styles of music, does that sound like Oasis?
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Reply #44 posted 12/17/08 6:12am

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Wall said:

Champagne Supernova is a much better pop song. While the Gold period was the last time Prince seemed at all relevant, the song Gold is, at best, a meager rewrite of Purple Rain that sounds more fitting for a Special Olympics advert than it does for an album.


Er, no it's not...

Oasis write really good pop tunes but it doesn't go any deeper than that. They don't challenge the listener in the way Prince does.
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Reply #45 posted 12/17/08 6:28am

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Columbia and hindu times are the best oasis songs, unfortunately most of their songs are piss tho.
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Reply #46 posted 12/17/08 6:41am

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I'm no big Oasis fan, but 'Gold' is pure cheese. cheese

Silly comparison on a Prince site though, eh.
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Reply #47 posted 12/17/08 6:51am

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It depends what your definition of cheese is. I really like the song!
Shut up already, damn.
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Reply #48 posted 12/17/08 6:52am

Dave1992

NouveauDance said:

I'm no big Oasis fan, but 'Gold' is pure cheese. cheese

Silly comparison on a Prince site though, eh.


Quiet you! hammer

Don't say such things, when I could possibly read them. It hurts my young little heart sad
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Reply #49 posted 12/17/08 7:35am

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pepper7 said:

It depends what your definition of cheese is. I really like the song!

I like cheese too.

Gold is a particularly honking, squidgy French cheese.
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Reply #50 posted 12/17/08 7:59am

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NouveauDance said:

pepper7 said:

It depends what your definition of cheese is. I really like the song!

I like cheese too.

Gold is a particularly honking, squidgy French cheese.


Well it's Christmas so get used to it!
Shut up already, damn.
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Reply #51 posted 12/17/08 7:59am

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can't hear gold but another song by the brothers grimm tht sound just like all their others
& WTF! 'where were you when we were getting high?'
these guys fancy themselves as cool rock7rollers, but in reality they like nothing more than egg & cress sarnies with the crusts cut off wink
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Reply #52 posted 12/17/08 8:34am

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even alan mcgee acknowledges that blur were a much better band and far more musically relevant than oasis. says it all really, considering he was a major factor in oasis selling any records at all.
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Reply #53 posted 12/17/08 8:38am

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pepper7 said:

NouveauDance said:


I like cheese too.

Gold is a particularly honking, squidgy French cheese.


Well it's Christmas so get used to it!

You seem to have missed my point completely, but Merry Xmas to you too any way smile
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Reply #54 posted 12/17/08 8:45am

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NouveauDance said:

pepper7 said:



Well it's Christmas so get used to it!

You seem to have missed my point completely, but Merry Xmas to you too any way smile
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duh duh duh
Shut up already, damn.
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Reply #55 posted 12/17/08 1:45pm

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Yuck,.... that Blur vs Oasis press thing. WORST thing about that whole era was the tune that apprently made Blur 'win' that contest....


Country House.


The WORST song by anyone not in Simply Red or M-People! (or Lighthouse Family)

lol I suddenly feel like it's the mid 90s again and Lightning Seeds are playing all day on the radio.
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Reply #56 posted 12/18/08 2:49am

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Ellie said:

kanoohead said:

Yuck,.... that Blur vs Oasis press thing. WORST thing about that whole era was the tune that apprently made Blur 'win' that contest....


Country House.


The WORST song by anyone not in Simply Red or M-People! (or Lighthouse Family)

lol I suddenly feel like it's the mid 90s again and Lightning Seeds are playing all day on the radio.
[Edited 12/17/08 13:45pm]


sad I'm still gutted because of Southgate johnwoo
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Reply #57 posted 12/18/08 2:53am

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Ellie said:

kanoohead said:

Yuck,.... that Blur vs Oasis press thing. WORST thing about that whole era was the tune that apprently made Blur 'win' that contest....


Country House.


The WORST song by anyone not in Simply Red or M-People! (or Lighthouse Family)

lol I suddenly feel like it's the mid 90s again and Lightning Seeds are playing all day on the radio.
[Edited 12/17/08 13:45pm]


I loved the Brit-pop period, there were very good bands around, Charlatans,Stone Roses, etc. "sugar coated iceberg" by the lightning seeds was good too. Like any decade alot of the bands that made radio time were diabolical, "the shitehouse family" were certainly one of them.
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Reply #58 posted 12/18/08 4:33am

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Champagne Supernova. music

Gold. confused
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