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Reply #90 posted 12/08/08 5:28am

7e7e7

1p1p1i3 said:

So who didn't burn these to CD?

Anyway, just download them from your favourite downloading place. You've already paid for them, so just steal them back.


im not sure "stealing" them back is a good way of putting it. periodically i have re-placed some music i made on internet file storage site and have found that in each instance, some people who downloaded them before, download them a second or third time for exactly some of the reasons sited here... mainly... the files were on an old media player, the hard drive failed.... or i upgraded the sound a few years later.

in this way i am able to also keep track of how many downloads were made. as far as burning them to cds... ok.. NOW everybody from now on knows to make an archive copy of anything they download so they can play it later! please pass THAT fact on to everyone!... but then... drm'ed files would not play if the site licensed from has gone out of business.... hmmm... and then there's the whole... performance thing. performing is a way of keeping money going, and or merchandising artworks that AREN't digitally reproducable... such as t-shirts.

cheers!
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Reply #91 posted 12/08/08 11:18pm

japanrocks

BartVanHemelen said:

japanrocks said:

prince is a genius because he has created so much interest in his live shows by not allowing us to see any youtube clips

and live shows just happen to be his main source of income over the past 5 years or so


Meanwhile Trent Reznor has just added a YouTube-channel to his website so fan-posted concert clips will be automatically accessible to his fans.

And that's just one of MANY fan-friendly things he's done since becoming free from his record label.

He's still making a ton of money, too. And he has a ton of happy fans.

Oh,and he is playing his latest music in concert, he doesn't have to rely on performing the same old hits again and again to get people to come to his shows.

Now imagine that Prince wasn't a total ass and actually did the same -- wouldn't that be a lot nicer than the crap he's been doing for over a decade?

The fact is: what you said is the kind of stuff that's said by record company bigwigs to explain why the same old crap isn't working anymore.


yeah.....i guess.....but i like the fact that he is not on youtube bcuz he doesnt have to be
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Reply #92 posted 12/08/08 11:35pm

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Trent's ideas on how to deliver his music are so vastly different from prince's when you think about it, and yet, Trent's ideas have become so much more successful. Hell, he even lets us remix them for free.. but most importantly, it's quality music. Prince can copy him in every move, but if the music is the same grade as he has been releasing.. his fans will still remain unhappy. like I.
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Reply #93 posted 12/17/08 6:16pm

JDODSONandFlas
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ben said:

There's a great entry in an ongoing anti-DRM (digital rights management) blog series, and "day 7" was about Prince. Check it out:

http://www.defectivebydes...y07-prince

Excerpt:
"Luckily I only purchased one of MANY DRM-laden album from Prince's now defunct New Power Generation website, Xpectation. It came in the DRM-encumbered Windows Media format, but this was before I was ever aware of the horrors of DRM. Ironically, I EXPECTED the files to work pretty much forever, maybe not forever but at least a few good years. However, I guess the joke was on me as I misplaced the files on an external harddrive a year or so ago and recently located them only to find out there's absolutely nothing I can do with them."...

Good quick read, give it a click.


There's a somewhat easy way to obtain music online and get around the DRM. If you have some basic analog recording equipment, stream your song, run line out from your computer's headphone jack into your input on your recording equipment, adjust the EQ's, and transfer it to MP3 format from CD or cassette. cool
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