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PrintableMadonna made a book with Vanilla Ice and Naomi...with Udo Kier and some nasty boys in it!
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bboy87 said: daPrettyman said: Does anyone know if the JW top officials in the church have to approve of the music of any of their members before it gets released? I was just thinking about Venus and Serena Williams. They are JW and they run around the tennis court in extremely short skirts. Same for Janet posing damn-near nude. Do they approve of this? Hell, I saw Serena on a French TV show making it clap and droppin' it to the floor. Does the church approve of that? you guys get people associated with the JWs or former JWs or children of JWs mixed up with practicing baptized JWs- it's not up to JWs to approve anybody's work- if you go contrary to Bible principles and willfully practice sin then you are put outside of the organization- please note- it's up to the person to seek counsel if they no longer associate with the members- when you've proved you are ready to apply Bible principles- you take the steps to reintegration again their principles are found online at www.watchtower.org y'all need to quit gettin' it twisted LOVE HARD. | |
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Evvy said: bboy87 said: Hell, I saw Serena on a French TV show making it clap and droppin' it to the floor. Does the church approve of that? you guys get people associated with the JWs or former JWs or children of JWs mixed up with practicing baptized JWs- it's not up to JWs to approve anybody's work- if you go contrary to Bible principles and willfully practice sin then you are put outside of the organization- please note- it's up to the person to seek counsel if they no longer associate with the members- when you've proved you are ready to apply Bible principles- you take the steps to reintegration again their principles are found online at www.watchtower.org y'all need to quit gettin' it twisted So, people like Venus and Serena, who are practicing and have been raised in the church, are allowed to do certain things until they are ready to change? I'm not trying to be confrontational or sarcastic, I just want to know the truth. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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daPrettyman said: Evvy said: you guys get people associated with the JWs or former JWs or children of JWs mixed up with practicing baptized JWs- it's not up to JWs to approve anybody's work- if you go contrary to Bible principles and willfully practice sin then you are put outside of the organization- please note- it's up to the person to seek counsel if they no longer associate with the members- when you've proved you are ready to apply Bible principles- you take the steps to reintegration again their principles are found online at www.watchtower.org y'all need to quit gettin' it twisted So, people like Venus and Serena, who are practicing and have been raised in the church, are allowed to do certain things until they are ready to change? I'm not trying to be confrontational or sarcastic, I just want to know the truth. they are either not recognized as being JWs or are estranged from it - it's not about being allowed to do things- JWs believe that God gave them free will to choose whether or not to serve him- either you do or you don't- what's not tolerated is people frequenting the organization, fraternizing,preaching - who don't follow Bible principles- then you are no longer considered to be a JW, you are disfellowshipped. If you are still part of the organization with the same issues- but have a repentant attititude- certain priveledges are taken away and the yet again the elders are there to help you spiritually- it's like pulling a rotten apple out of a basket full of good ones. LOVE HARD. | |
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ask dem errant soul on street, put Prince in drier. spin round. hhav laff fore police cum | |
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Evvy said: daPrettyman said: So, people like Venus and Serena, who are practicing and have been raised in the church, are allowed to do certain things until they are ready to change? I'm not trying to be confrontational or sarcastic, I just want to know the truth. they are either not recognized as being JWs or are estranged from it - it's not about being allowed to do things- JWs believe that God gave them free will to choose whether or not to serve him- either you do or you don't- what's not tolerated is people frequenting the organization, fraternizing,preaching - who don't follow Bible principles- then you are no longer considered to be a JW, you are disfellowshipped. If you are still part of the organization with the same issues- but have a repentant attititude- certain priveledges are taken away and the yet again the elders are there to help you spiritually- it's like pulling a rotten apple out of a basket full of good ones. OK, I get most of that, but the part that is confusing to me is the taking away of privileges. What type of privileges? **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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daPrettyman said: Evvy said: they are either not recognized as being JWs or are estranged from it - it's not about being allowed to do things- JWs believe that God gave them free will to choose whether or not to serve him- either you do or you don't- what's not tolerated is people frequenting the organization, fraternizing,preaching - who don't follow Bible principles- then you are no longer considered to be a JW, you are disfellowshipped. If you are still part of the organization with the same issues- but have a repentant attititude- certain priveledges are taken away and the yet again the elders are there to help you spiritually- it's like pulling a rotten apple out of a basket full of good ones. OK, I get most of that, but the part that is confusing to me is the taking away of privileges. What type of privileges? No more bicycle. | |
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daPrettyman said: Evvy said: they are either not recognized as being JWs or are estranged from it - it's not about being allowed to do things- JWs believe that God gave them free will to choose whether or not to serve him- either you do or you don't- what's not tolerated is people frequenting the organization, fraternizing,preaching - who don't follow Bible principles- then you are no longer considered to be a JW, you are disfellowshipped. If you are still part of the organization with the same issues- but have a repentant attititude- certain priveledges are taken away and the yet again the elders are there to help you spiritually- it's like pulling a rotten apple out of a basket full of good ones. OK, I get most of that, but the part that is confusing to me is the taking away of privileges. What type of privileges? essentially u only sing when u on top of highest branch. this is what Yahweh is all about. muddle your own til you at the top. THEN you can say Yahweh. not before. but at the same time, small comfort in denizen plaza. We cant all perch ATop mountain - not flat enough Cx | |
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My neighbours are JW's..I was talking to one of them this morning.
Not about Prince though. Fuck the funk - it's time to ditch the worn-out Vegas horns fills, pick up the geee-tar and finally ROCK THE MUTHA-FUCKER!! He hinted at this on Chaos, now it's time to step up and fully DELIVER!!
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daPrettyman said: Evvy said: they are either not recognized as being JWs or are estranged from it - it's not about being allowed to do things- JWs believe that God gave them free will to choose whether or not to serve him- either you do or you don't- what's not tolerated is people frequenting the organization, fraternizing,preaching - who don't follow Bible principles- then you are no longer considered to be a JW, you are disfellowshipped. If you are still part of the organization with the same issues- but have a repentant attititude- certain priveledges are taken away and the yet again the elders are there to help you spiritually- it's like pulling a rotten apple out of a basket full of good ones. OK, I get most of that, but the part that is confusing to me is the taking away of privileges. What type of privileges? sharing vocally in worship, associating at functions outside of spiritual things,participating in weddings, spiritual assignments, or taking part in the teaching done on stage LOVE HARD. | |
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that's the thing the only people who really know P's standing are him, God, the elders in his congregation and maybe some of the members. it's a spiritual, private thing until he is publicly announced- and yes it does bring reproach upon the name of God and the JW organization when famous people affiliated or baptized err willingly- but again- it's thier personal relationship with God and all JWs should not be judged because of them. LOVE HARD. | |
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I am glad he went to the JW's because he seems more happier as a person, and I have heard that he is in good standing with the congregation. I know loads of JW and have asked them about Prince and they seem very happy that he is now a JW and hopes he keeps it up! I also love the fact he is living in harmony with the bible! 2 Corinthians 4:18 "While we keep our eyes, not on the things seen, but on the things unseen. For the things seen are temporary, but the things unseen are everlasting." | |
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unity225 said: I am glad he went to the JW's because he seems more happier as a person, and I have heard that he is in good standing with the congregation. I know loads of JW and have asked them about Prince and they seem very happy that he is now a JW and hopes he keeps it up! *I also love the fact he is living in harmony with the bible!*
*Or at least trying to* I believe ppl should be commended on tryin to live a clean positive lifestyle. Life's already naturally messed up to drag ppl down. All the negative vybez is jus weighin down on this hard life. People that don't even kno Prince personally claims that Prince was happier when he wasn't JW. Nobody knows for sure but himself and the Creator. Prince is prolly at a place (mentally) where he's relaxed and comfy wit the way he's living his life and convinced that he's tryin his best to live the right way (according to the Bible). At least JW aren't out to kill ppl...or are they  (ok that was a joke...jus stick to the point of my post ok!)  I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh | |
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Tame said: Different people have different ways of calling other's unto them. For example...I have one fantastic experience to share in my ability to share the gospel.
I met a boy, ten years younger that worked at a local 7/11 years ago. He was struggling to get by and kicked out of his parents house. I lived a half a mile from the store and stoped in frequently. One day he came to my home for cigarettes and something to drink before work and I came to find out that he worshiped the devil. I wasn't a born again Christian at the time, however...we talked and talked. I played music 4 him...He told me all about these meetings he would attend. To make a long story short, he confessed to me all of his wrong doings...and a year later he came to my home and told me he started going to church and that he thanked me for it because I wasn't the typical person pulling him away from that sort of practice. I was thankful for him and myself. The point is...some people in the wrong direction will not listen to a regular preacher...there are people that need to be reached in strange places. Prince has the ability to lure and preach. God Bless him 4 that. Amen, it is about not being in a comfort zone. We are called to witness Christ at all times, we must be ready, because we never know who we might see in those strange places that need him. I personally love the chance to witness, I like to let people know there is hope,they can find peace. As far as Prince being a JW, I think it is comendable that he is trying to live his life for Christ... | |
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danzakairos said: Tame said: Different people have different ways of calling other's unto them. For example...I have one fantastic experience to share in my ability to share the gospel.
I met a boy, ten years younger that worked at a local 7/11 years ago. He was struggling to get by and kicked out of his parents house. I lived a half a mile from the store and stoped in frequently. One day he came to my home for cigarettes and something to drink before work and I came to find out that he worshiped the devil. I wasn't a born again Christian at the time, however...we talked and talked. I played music 4 him...He told me all about these meetings he would attend. To make a long story short, he confessed to me all of his wrong doings...and a year later he came to my home and told me he started going to church and that he thanked me for it because I wasn't the typical person pulling him away from that sort of practice. I was thankful for him and myself. The point is...some people in the wrong direction will not listen to a regular preacher...there are people that need to be reached in strange places. Prince has the ability to lure and preach. God Bless him 4 that. Amen, it is about not being in a comfort zone. We are called to witness Christ at all times, we must be ready, because we never know who we might see in those strange places that need him. I personally love the chance to witness, I like to let people know there is hope,they can find peace. As far as Prince being a JW, I think it is comendable that he is trying to live his life for Christ... JW's don't witness Christ. Christ to them is the archangel Michael not the Son of God which Christ claims himself to be! Who do you think is telling The Truth.....Christ or JWs????? [Edited 11/25/08 18:16pm] |
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Astasheiks said: JW's don't witness Christ. Christ to them is the archangel Michael not the Son of God which Christ claims himself to be!
Who do you think is telling The Truth.....Christ or JWs????? [Edited 11/25/08 18:16pm] this is gonna get moved to P&R .. and you're right... they don't share Christ... they don't believe in The Virgin Birth of Jesus or The Deity of Christ... | |
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Flowers2 said: Astasheiks said: JW's don't witness Christ. Christ to them is the archangel Michael not the Son of God which Christ claims himself to be!
Who do you think is telling The Truth.....Christ or JWs????? [Edited 11/25/08 18:16pm] this is gonna get moved to P&R .. and you're right... they don't share Christ... they don't believe in The Virgin Birth of Jesus or The Deity of Christ... wrong again- they believe that Christ is God's son- yet not part of a trinity- they do believe that he was born from the virgin Mary LOVE HARD. | |
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Evvy said: Flowers2 said: this is gonna get moved to P&R .. and you're right... they don't share Christ... they don't believe in The Virgin Birth of Jesus or The Deity of Christ... wrong again- they believe that Christ is God's son- yet not part of a trinity- they do believe that he was born from the virgin Mary no, they don't believe in the conception of Jesus = The Virgin Birth.. that he was conceived by The Holy Spirit.. they do not believe that.. | |
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Flowers2 said: Evvy said: wrong again- they believe that Christ is God's son- yet not part of a trinity- they do believe that he was born from the virgin Mary no, they don't believe in the conception of Jesus = The Virgin Birth.. that he was conceived by The Holy Spirit.. they do not believe that.. ----- Jesus lived in the heavens as a spirit creature with his Father long before he was conceived by Mary, for some 4,000 years. His birth on earth, in early autumn of the year 2 B.C.E., was made possible by holy spirit-by means of which Jehovah transferred Jesus' life from heaven to the womb of the Jewish virgin Mary. Matthew 1:18 "But the birth of Jesus Christ was in this way. During the time his mother Mary was promised in marriage to Joseph, she was found to be pregnant by holy spirit before they were united." | |
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skywalker said: How can that freedom/sex/funk loving Prince be down with a religion with such conservative moral values?
quite easily. its a false front. it makes him look good. | |
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DigMeNow said: Flowers2 said: no, they don't believe in the conception of Jesus = The Virgin Birth.. that he was conceived by The Holy Spirit.. they do not believe that.. ----- Jesus lived in the heavens as a spirit creature with his Father long before he was conceived by Mary, for some 4,000 years. His birth on earth, in early autumn of the year 2 B.C.E., was made possible by holy spirit-by means of which Jehovah transferred Jesus' life from heaven to the womb of the Jewish virgin Mary. Matthew 1:18 "But the birth of Jesus Christ was in this way. During the time his mother Mary was promised in marriage to Joseph, she was found to be pregnant by holy spirit before they were united." So do you consider Prince a good example of what a Jehovah's Witness should be? As a male, if I join the Witnesses, is it acceptable for me to wear a lot of make-up and high heels? I'd just like to know a Witnesses views on it? | |
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DigMeNow said: Flowers2 said: no, they don't believe in the conception of Jesus = The Virgin Birth.. that he was conceived by The Holy Spirit.. they do not believe that.. ----- Jesus lived in the heavens as a spirit creature with his Father long before he was conceived by Mary, for some 4,000 years. His birth on earth, in early autumn of the year 2 B.C.E., was made possible by holy spirit-by means of which Jehovah transferred Jesus' life from heaven to the womb of the Jewish virgin Mary. Matthew 1:18 "But the birth of Jesus Christ was in this way. During the time his mother Mary was promised in marriage to Joseph, she was found to be pregnant by holy spirit before they were united." thank you  wrong information is abundant when it comes to Bible truthLOVE HARD. | |
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UniversalSon said: DigMeNow said: ----- Jesus lived in the heavens as a spirit creature with his Father long before he was conceived by Mary, for some 4,000 years. His birth on earth, in early autumn of the year 2 B.C.E., was made possible by holy spirit-by means of which Jehovah transferred Jesus' life from heaven to the womb of the Jewish virgin Mary. Matthew 1:18 "But the birth of Jesus Christ was in this way. During the time his mother Mary was promised in marriage to Joseph, she was found to be pregnant by holy spirit before they were united." So do you consider Prince a good example of what a Jehovah's Witness should be? As a male, if I join the Witnesses, is it acceptable for me to wear a lot of make-up and high heels? I'd just like to know a Witnesses views on it? the Prince that I see today is far from what he use to be- ever heard of the expression- "can't change over night"- i'm sure most people that know him can't believe the changes he's already made in life. the interesting thing here is that most of you don't even know the reasons behind his behavior- do you think God cares about your face cream, the size of your feet or the height of the heel you wear. do you think God cared that men in the 1800's wore tights and heeled boots, ruffled shirts, curly wigs, etc..- stop being judgemental - because it's the heart condition - the interior man and their motives that God focuses on LOVE HARD. | |
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MikeMatronik said: Madonna made a book with Vanilla Ice and Naomi...with Udo Kier and some nasty boys in it!
Does the church approve of that? Madonna isn't JW, she into Cabala. I have never asked a JW about Prince, but I have talked to them about the religion. They no longer believe that you have to keep the 7th day as the Sabbath if it is inconvenient for you. If the 1st, 2nd, 3rd etc. is better for you then that is the day you keep holy. At least have some order and conviction. I am expecting them to come here today, they usually do on Wednesday, so maybe I'll bring up the Prince topic. | |
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I mistakenly asked someone about the JW faith, and included the Akashic Records in as part of what I thought they believed, and got politely corrected that this has nothing to do with JW. I have also heard people say that he is not practicing the true JW faith, but from the sound of it, he may be moving toward it with this talk of celibacy and the (for-image-only) statements he's made about gay marriage (stick what where?) | |
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Evvy said: UniversalSon said: So do you consider Prince a good example of what a Jehovah's Witness should be? As a male, if I join the Witnesses, is it acceptable for me to wear a lot of make-up and high heels? I'd just like to know a Witnesses views on it? the Prince that I see today is far from what he use to be- ever heard of the expression- "can't change over night"- i'm sure most people that know him can't believe the changes he's already made in life. the interesting thing here is that most of you don't even know the reasons behind his behavior- do you think God cares about your face cream, the size of your feet or the height of the heel you wear. do you think God cared that men in the 1800's wore tights and heeled boots, ruffled shirts, curly wigs, etc..- stop being judgemental - because it's the heart condition - the interior man and their motives that God focuses on I'm definitely not judging. I'm asking for an answer, that's all. Thanks. | |
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DigMeNow said: Flowers2 said: no, they don't believe in the conception of Jesus = The Virgin Birth.. that he was conceived by The Holy Spirit.. they do not believe that.. ----- Jesus lived in the heavens as a spirit creature with his Father long before he was conceived by Mary tell that to the jw's .. cause they don't believe it .... [Edited 11/26/08 14:37pm] | |
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Flowers2 said: DigMeNow said: ----- Jesus lived in the heavens as a spirit creature with his Father long before he was conceived by Mary tell that to the jw's .. cause they don't believe it .... [Edited 11/26/08 14:37pm] you obviuosly are not interested in doing any meaningful research on the topic LOVE HARD. | |
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Evvy said: Flowers2 said: tell that to the jw's .. cause they don't believe it .... you obviuosly are not interested in doing any meaningful research on the topic I guess next you're gonna tell me.. it's a sin to celebrate holidays and get blood transfusions.... maybe you should learn more about jw's yourself.. | |
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Flowers2 said: DigMeNow said: ----- Jesus lived in the heavens as a spirit creature with his Father long before he was conceived by Mary tell that to the jw's .. cause they don't believe it .... [Edited 11/26/08 14:37pm] Hello Flowers2, The information that I provided is from two different books that I study and learn from provided to me by Jehovah's Witnesses... 1) What Does The Bible Really Teach? 2) Jehovah's Witnesses Proclaimers Of God's Kingdom. This is what they believe and has been conveyed to me. I'm not sure why you say they don't believe it, can you tell me why you say that please. | |
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