I was not surprised by the interview one bit. Come on? How could he support gay rights and still be a JW.
I'll always be an 80s Prince "music" fan. But I won't be buying any of his new stuff. I think I probably heard Planet Earth a half-dozen times and both 3121 and Musicology never got another spin after the first couple of months. And even though he got rave reviews for his Coachella performance, it was actually kind of boring for me. I've seen so many other Prince shows that were so much more exciting. There was nothing fresh at all. It was by the numbers Prince. So with both live shows and any new CDs I'll be curious but I won't be going out of my way to support it. I just don't care anymore. And the whole 21 Nights book thing came and went. Is it even out yet? I read on here that there would be a CD included but no one's really talked about it. Have they? Who knows. "...literal people are scary, man literal people scare me out there trying to rid the world of its poetry while getting it wrong fundamentally down at the church of "look, it says right here, see!" - ani difranco | |
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myfavorite said: why the fuck are yall screamin in here....and when the hell did prince answer a gay ass thread! ! ! come on yall! ! ! ! !
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I know I am late on this topic, but I must address Prince (and any other person who uses religion to further their own agenda and alienate a minority of people). I am born and raised in a Pentecostal church. I have heard sermons over and over about homosexuality being an abonination, and homosexiuals are going to hell. If you read the Bible, it states that we have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. When did one sin (by Biblical terms) trump another. How dare a womanizing man, who can't keep a girlfriend for long let alone 2 wives judge anyone. It puzzles me that the so called "saved" people have no problem with children out of wedlock, infedelity, and other sexually "immoral" acts as long as it is done with the opposite sex. Prince must remember that the Bible was a tool that was used to justify slavery, unequality for women, and polygamy. As far as Prop. 8, which was heavily funded by the Morman church who has a problem with same sex marriage, but not the molestation and marriage of girls as young as 8 years old to grown men. I respect everyones religious beliefs, but what I cannot respect or tolorate are hypocrites. "POOR IS THE MAN WHO'S PLEASURES DEPEND ON THE PERMISSION OF ANOTHER" Madonna
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As a gay male...
1) I find it unfortunate that anyone still follow a book that was written thousands of years ago, let alone, take it literally. Really? 2) Let it go. One reason it seems that Prince stays out of the public eye is because he wants people to appreciate the music, not the hype of who's dating who, or who entered what drug rehab center. So, as real Prince fans, shouldn't we at least attempt to take this into considerations? Personally, this is my response to the comment: So what?! Prince puts out awesome music and honestly, I don't care what the hell he does in his personal time. As long as he's putting out good music, I'm a fan. And even if he stops... I've got a shit ton of music to fall back on. I really don't care what his personal views are, and why should anyone else? Live and let live, right? Our attitudes, values and beliefs make just as much sense to us as Prince's do to him. Let it go. | |
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StarFishies said: As a gay male...
1) I find it unfortunate that anyone still follow a book that was written thousands of years ago, let alone, take it literally. Really? 2) Let it go. One reason it seems that Prince stays out of the public eye is because he wants people to appreciate the music, not the hype of who's dating who, or who entered what drug rehab center. So, as real Prince fans, shouldn't we at least attempt to take this into considerations? Personally, this is my response to the comment: So what?! Prince puts out awesome music and honestly, I don't care what the hell he does in his personal time. As long as he's putting out good music, I'm a fan. And even if he stops... I've got a shit ton of music to fall back on. I really don't care what his personal views are, and why should anyone else? Live and let live, right? Our attitudes, values and beliefs make just as much sense to us as Prince's do to him. Let it go. I am not gay, but EXTREMELY gay friendly. I also believe that people should learn to live and let live. If everyone shared our beliefs, Prop. 8 would never had been an issue. I am a mega Prince fan as you are (followed him since 13 years old, I am now over 35), but I will call him out as I would anyone else. As I said in my last post, I respect everyones religious beliefs, but I do not respect hypocrites who uses "that old book" to continue to cause and justify bigotry of any kind. [Edited 11/24/08 20:54pm] "POOR IS THE MAN WHO'S PLEASURES DEPEND ON THE PERMISSION OF ANOTHER" Madonna
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My signature says it all, plus I'm a Christian too but I DON'T subscribe to the JW way. This doesn't phase me at all but I'm here for the music, as I've always been. As long as it's funky, I'll always be here. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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totaldiva said: I know I am late on this topic, but I must address Prince (and any other person who uses religion to further their own agenda and alienate a minority of people). I am born and raised in a Pentecostal church. I have heard sermons over and over about homosexuality being an abonination, and homosexiuals are going to hell. If you read the Bible, it states that we have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. When did one sin (by Biblical terms) trump another. How dare a womanizing man, who can't keep a girlfriend for long let alone 2 wives judge anyone. It puzzles me that the so called "saved" people have no problem with children out of wedlock, infedelity, and other sexually "immoral" acts as long as it is done with the opposite sex. Prince must remember that the Bible was a tool that was used to justify slavery, unequality for women, and polygamy. As far as Prop. 8, which was heavily funded by the Morman church who has a problem with same sex marriage, but not the molestation and marriage of girls as young as 8 years old to grown men. I respect everyones religious beliefs, but what I cannot respect or tolorate are hypocrites.
----- You are my new hero. I'm fed up with not having EXACTLY the same rights as everyone else. I'm an honest,hard working gay man with good morals and a big heart...AND a democrat! Excuse some of us NURSEV & JayJai if you both wish this issue would "die". But this issue is about human rights. Feel free to believe what you want but don't limit my rights as a human being. Prince can spout on about vague, self righteous bullshit all he wants. It's his right. But he should also come clean about this interview instead of having a few others do damage control. "mean what you say,say what you mean." I'd have more respect for him if he came forth and made it clear where he stands on this issue (though it's obvious). | |
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Seriously tho ive always wondered, U know that sayin "nothing is what it seems" Its seems religous people live there lifes by 2000 year old books I have always said religion is the devil and people hide behind its "love and Peace" messages 4 authority and power, which they abuse for there own selfsih and sick purposes (like the vatican) kinda 2 keep the poor man down soughta thang, I do believe there is a god ...but I dont think any religion is 100% right and with there "self rightous" selfs they seem 2 do more evil than good (wars etc)It is these people who judge others that may not believe the same as they do and point the finger...that are truly going to hell [Edited 11/25/08 11:05am] Everybody's looking 4 the ladder
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alright, question. If me and supa get married and yall think imma man ( which i am 100% female, most times) does that make our union a gay marriage????
there always seems to be confusion on the identification of male and female. the church looks at the person, but the world looks at the spirit of a person????? come on yall! ! ! ! ! THE B EST BE YOURSELF AS LONG AS YOUR SELF ISNT A DYCK[/r]
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totaldiva said: I know I am late on this topic, but I must address Prince (and any other person who uses religion to further their own agenda and alienate a minority of people). I am born and raised in a Pentecostal church. I have heard sermons over and over about homosexuality being an abonination, and homosexiuals are going to hell. If you read the Bible, it states that we have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. When did one sin (by Biblical terms) trump another. How dare a womanizing man, who can't keep a girlfriend for long let alone 2 wives judge anyone. It puzzles me that the so called "saved" people have no problem with children out of wedlock, infedelity, and other sexually "immoral" acts as long as it is done with the opposite sex. Prince must remember that the Bible was a tool that was used to justify slavery, unequality for women, and polygamy. As far as Prop. 8, which was heavily funded by the Morman church who has a problem with same sex marriage, but not the molestation and marriage of girls as young as 8 years old to grown men. I respect everyones religious beliefs, but what I cannot respect or tolorate are hypocrites. Excellent post! Honey, I'm gonna go straight and marry you. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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TheResistor said: I was not surprised by the interview one bit. Come on? How could he support gay rights and still be a JW.
I'll always be an 80s Prince "music" fan. But I won't be buying any of his new stuff. I think I probably heard Planet Earth a half-dozen times and both 3121 and Musicology never got another spin after the first couple of months. And even though he got rave reviews for his Coachella performance, it was actually kind of boring for me. I've seen so many other Prince shows that were so much more exciting. There was nothing fresh at all. It was by the numbers Prince. So with both live shows and any new CDs I'll be curious but I won't be going out of my way to support it. I just don't care anymore. And the whole 21 Nights book thing came and went. Is it even out yet? I read on here that there would be a CD included but no one's really talked about it. Have they? Who knows. With you a thousand million billion % Thank God my life is full of many musical heroes and not just this one.... 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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totaldiva said: I know I am late on this topic, but I must address Prince (and any other person who uses religion to further their own agenda and alienate a minority of people). I am born and raised in a Pentecostal church. I have heard sermons over and over about homosexuality being an abonination, and homosexiuals are going to hell. If you read the Bible, it states that we have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. When did one sin (by Biblical terms) trump another. How dare a womanizing man, who can't keep a girlfriend for long let alone 2 wives judge anyone. It puzzles me that the so called "saved" people have no problem with children out of wedlock, infedelity, and other sexually "immoral" acts as long as it is done with the opposite sex. Prince must remember that the Bible was a tool that was used to justify slavery, unequality for women, and polygamy. As far as Prop. 8, which was heavily funded by the Morman church who has a problem with same sex marriage, but not the molestation and marriage of girls as young as 8 years old to grown men. I respect everyones religious beliefs, but what I cannot respect or tolorate are hypocrites.
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: TheResistor said: I was not surprised by the interview one bit. Come on? How could he support gay rights and still be a JW.
I'll always be an 80s Prince "music" fan. But I won't be buying any of his new stuff. I think I probably heard Planet Earth a half-dozen times and both 3121 and Musicology never got another spin after the first couple of months. And even though he got rave reviews for his Coachella performance, it was actually kind of boring for me. I've seen so many other Prince shows that were so much more exciting. There was nothing fresh at all. It was by the numbers Prince. So with both live shows and any new CDs I'll be curious but I won't be going out of my way to support it. I just don't care anymore. And the whole 21 Nights book thing came and went. Is it even out yet? I read on here that there would be a CD included but no one's really talked about it. Have they? Who knows. With you a thousand million billion % Thank God my life is full of many musical heroes and not just this one.... I feel ya... I was at a Borders Store last night and walked right passed their 21 Nights display... A decade ago, I would have been all over that shit... Instead I picked up a Rufus Live CD and a copy of Latin Inches... I left Satisfied. | |
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Jude418 said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: With you a thousand million billion % Thank God my life is full of many musical heroes and not just this one.... I feel ya... I was at a Borders Store last night and walked right passed their 21 Nights display... A decade ago, I would have been all over that shit... Instead I picked up a Rufus Live CD and a copy of Latin Inches... I left Satisfied. Rufus and cock It really doesn't get any better than that When the hell are we going to get together? 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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totaldiva said: If you read the Bible, it states that we have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.
When did one sin (by Biblical terms) trump another. How dare a womanizing man, who can't keep a girlfriend for long let alone 2 wives judge anyone. It puzzles me that the so called "saved" people have no problem with children out of wedlock, infedelity, and other sexually "immoral" acts as long as it is done with the opposite sex. Prince must remember that the Bible was a tool that was used to justify slavery, unequality for women, and polygamy. I respect everyones religious beliefs, but what I cannot respect or tolorate are hypocrites. TOTALDIVA WINS | |
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totaldiva said: I know I am late on this topic, but I must address Prince (and any other person who uses religion to further their own agenda and alienate a minority of people). I am born and raised in a Pentecostal church. I have heard sermons over and over about homosexuality being an abonination, and homosexiuals are going to hell. If you read the Bible, it states that we have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. When did one sin (by Biblical terms) trump another. How dare a womanizing man, who can't keep a girlfriend for long let alone 2 wives judge anyone. It puzzles me that the so called "saved" people have no problem with children out of wedlock, infedelity, and other sexually "immoral" acts as long as it is done with the opposite sex. Prince must remember that the Bible was a tool that was used to justify slavery, unequality for women, and polygamy. As far as Prop. 8, which was heavily funded by the Morman church who has a problem with same sex marriage, but not the molestation and marriage of girls as young as 8 years old to grown men. I respect everyones religious beliefs, but what I cannot respect or tolorate are hypocrites.
Dumbest and most illogical thing I read all day. I feel cool. Alive. Aware, that I'm sinking
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RintrahRoars said: totaldiva said: I know I am late on this topic, but I must address Prince (and any other person who uses religion to further their own agenda and alienate a minority of people). I am born and raised in a Pentecostal church. I have heard sermons over and over about homosexuality being an abonination, and homosexiuals are going to hell. If you read the Bible, it states that we have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. When did one sin (by Biblical terms) trump another. How dare a womanizing man, who can't keep a girlfriend for long let alone 2 wives judge anyone. It puzzles me that the so called "saved" people have no problem with children out of wedlock, infedelity, and other sexually "immoral" acts as long as it is done with the opposite sex. Prince must remember that the Bible was a tool that was used to justify slavery, unequality for women, and polygamy. As far as Prop. 8, which was heavily funded by the Morman church who has a problem with same sex marriage, but not the molestation and marriage of girls as young as 8 years old to grown men. I respect everyones religious beliefs, but what I cannot respect or tolorate are hypocrites.
Dumbest and most illogical thing I read all day. This is why religion is so dangerous. It turns brilliance into stupidity 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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RintrahRoars said: totaldiva said: I know I am late on this topic, but I must address Prince (and any other person who uses religion to further their own agenda and alienate a minority of people). I am born and raised in a Pentecostal church. I have heard sermons over and over about homosexuality being an abonination, and homosexiuals are going to hell. If you read the Bible, it states that we have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. When did one sin (by Biblical terms) trump another. How dare a womanizing man, who can't keep a girlfriend for long let alone 2 wives judge anyone. It puzzles me that the so called "saved" people have no problem with children out of wedlock, infedelity, and other sexually "immoral" acts as long as it is done with the opposite sex. Prince must remember that the Bible was a tool that was used to justify slavery, unequality for women, and polygamy. As far as Prop. 8, which was heavily funded by the Morman church who has a problem with same sex marriage, but not the molestation and marriage of girls as young as 8 years old to grown men. I respect everyones religious beliefs, but what I cannot respect or tolorate are hypocrites.
Dumbest and most illogical thing I read all day. hang on howz that dumb? she/he has got a good point there Everybody's looking 4 the ladder
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I'm gay & I was shocked for a couple seconds.... then I let it go. He's a book I just keep reading & reading wether it shocks, amazes, or disappoints me. I just watch & enjoy the ride. I wouldn't want anyone to write my book for me... | |
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optimus said: RintrahRoars said: Dumbest and most illogical thing I read all day. hang on howz that dumb? she/he has got a good point there Thanks for backing me, but when did I become a she/he? I've been called alot of things, but a man wan't one of them. Really reaching, huh? [Edited 11/25/08 20:37pm] [Edited 11/25/08 21:13pm] "POOR IS THE MAN WHO'S PLEASURES DEPEND ON THE PERMISSION OF ANOTHER" Madonna
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...shyt. ..... THE B EST BE YOURSELF AS LONG AS YOUR SELF ISNT A DYCK[/r]
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I am gay and I will still listen to, support and admired Prince no matter what religion he hides behind. The fact remains is people still think hes gay because of his alleged feminine side, high voice and petite stature, his obsession with neatness also leads to some deluded stereotype hes gay. Well every book I read about him, he comes across as a real lady killer and a chauvenistic pig who treats women like shit. Whereas on the other side theres no real evidence hes gay (what about a photo, video or a testament from a lover thats other than some crack whore desparate for money).
Until then I could not give a fuck wether hes gay or straight or even if he wants us all to burn up in a fiery pit. The fact he can't deny is his music and style has always appealed to gay people wether he likes it or not. 17 Years ago I made a commitment to Prince | |
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nurseV said: Will this issue ever die?
Welllll..... seeing since the issue was around even when the Bible was writen and it has not died since.... I'd say no. We are all so full of here | |
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hollywooddove said: nurseV said: Will this issue ever die?
Welllll..... seeing since the issue was around even when the Bible was writen and it has not died since.... I'd say no. alternatively, Prince could never mention it again, or better still, not mention it in the first place to a complete stranger. talking politics and religion to the press is very naive. | |
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TRUE: Marriage May Be b/t A Man and Woman, but Gay Couples have EVERY RIGHT to Commit to oneanother and have the same benefits as heterosexual couples do.
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who are you and where did you come from...??? THE B EST BE YOURSELF AS LONG AS YOUR SELF ISNT A DYCK[/r]
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I always think that Prince contradicts himself anyway..
One minute he's all '21 positions in a one night stand...' The next minute he's 'What goes on inside your head that makes you want to take them all to bed..' Prince seems to contradict himself more than any other musician I know. I don't think Prince even knows what his own opinion is. One minute he says 'You don't have to be beautiful to turn me on..' The next minute he says 'Could you be the most beautiful girl in the world..' Come on Prince, do you want us for our minds or our body and looks!? Be consistent please....! Shut up already, damn. | |
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How can he be consistant when he has always seemed like he is searching
Either way his alleged comments dont phase me in the slightest He makes me sometimes , he deserves a right sometimes , but I will always have the biggest soft spot for him | |
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pepper7 said: I always think that Prince contradicts himself anyway..
One minute he's all '21 positions in a one night stand...' The next minute he's 'What goes on inside your head that makes you want to take them all to bed..' Prince seems to contradict himself more than any other musician I know. I don't think Prince even knows what his own opinion is. One minute he says 'You don't have to be beautiful to turn me on..' The next minute he says 'Could you be the most beautiful girl in the world..' Come on Prince, do you want us for our minds or our body and looks!? Be consistent please....! You've got a very valid point. I have always felt this about Prince. My own personal belief is that he says things like this latest gay quote to please his fellow JW's. I really don't think he means it or dislikes gays in any way. I think he's confused and always has been. I don't think he knows what to believe or what religion he wants to follow. He has always been controversial and contradictory and that's just the way he is. I don't believe half the shit that I read about him or half of what he says himself. | |
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Empress said: pepper7 said: I always think that Prince contradicts himself anyway..
One minute he's all '21 positions in a one night stand...' The next minute he's 'What goes on inside your head that makes you want to take them all to bed..' Prince seems to contradict himself more than any other musician I know. I don't think Prince even knows what his own opinion is. One minute he says 'You don't have to be beautiful to turn me on..' The next minute he says 'Could you be the most beautiful girl in the world..' Come on Prince, do you want us for our minds or our body and looks!? Be consistent please....! You've got a very valid point. I have always felt this about Prince. My own personal belief is that he says things like this latest gay quote to please his fellow JW's. I really don't think he means it or dislikes gays in any way. I think he's confused and always has been. I don't think he knows what to believe or what religion he wants to follow. He has always been controversial and contradictory and that's just the way he is. I don't believe half the shit that I read about him or half of what he says himself. wow. That's reading a lot into a person. First thing, if the doctrine of your religion says that homosexuality is a sin, that does not mean that you dislike gays. Why is this always assumed? That's like saying that liars are hated... well... we're all liars sometimes, right? I don't think Prince is really trying to please the JWs, I think he believes what he says. I have known Prince to say a lot of kooky stuff in the past, but I always believe that he believes what he says, whether no one else does or not. We find it hard to believe that Prince says anything attached to sex that would have limits or boundaries due to the music he has written in the past. But people change... they grow... and things that they once felt was okay, they see in a different light. This happens to all of us, or at least it should. Don't forget, he is just a man. He has values and beliefs just like the rest of us. We are all so full of here | |
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