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Hot Press: The S**T Hits the Fans - Can Prince really be anti-gay marriage?

See I new this would happen....media circus... sad

http://www.guardian.co.uk...y-marriage

Can Prince really have spoken out against same-sex relationships? Did he really tell the New Yorker: "God came to earth and saw people sticking it wherever and doing it with whatever and he just cleared it all out. He was like 'Enough'"?

Now we're talking about Prince here, not Cliff Richard. You know, dressing in women's blouses, high heels, eyeliner Prince. The radically progressive artist who had people of all races, colours, creeds and sexual orientation in his band, the Revolution. The guy who adopted a female persona (Camille) to record the brilliant If I Was Your Girlfriend. But this was also the guy who gave his last album away free with the Mail on Sunday. Hmmm.

His people quickly denied the quote, telling website Dr Funkenberry: "The reporter was not allowed to use a tape recorder and so paraphrased nearly everything." This could be true; Prince rarely gives interviews and, when he does, a "no tape recorders" rule is normally in place.

The statement goes on to to say Prince never said the controversial "sticking it" quote: "Those were the WRITER'S words, not Prince's", apparently. Fair enough, although a glowing endorsement of gay marriage would have been better.

The rumours of him being anti-gay have been around for a while. There's a dramatic bit in Alex Hahn's book Possessed: The Rise and Fall of Prince where it details the time in 2000 where Prince was in talks to reform his Revolution band. He apparently told guitarist Wendy Melvoin (who was once involved in a same-sex relationship) through his drummer Bobby Z to hold a press conference denouncing her lifestyle.

Who knows if this is true? What we do know is that the Revolution never reformed but Wendy and Lisa did play with Prince at the Brits in 2006 and have appeared on his most recent album Planet Earth. Recently, when Wendy joined him onstage he introduced her as his best friend. When I spoke to Wendy and Lisa earlier this year, they still have a lot of love and affection for Prince with Lisa calling him "like a brother".

Whatever the validity of these claims, we've been here before. It's always a huge disappointment when an artist you've loved and lived with suddenly turns out to be horribly prejudiced or says bigoted things. Maybe it's like Joni Mitchell, one of Prince's heroes, once said: "Most of my heroes are monsters, unfortunately."
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Reply #1 posted 11/20/08 9:19am

nurseV

Why he has to be a bigot all of a sudden according to this article-pure BS confused
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Reply #2 posted 11/20/08 9:20am

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Reply #3 posted 11/20/08 9:23am

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The Guardian thinks he's a bigot? Now I know I'm on Prince's side.
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Reply #4 posted 11/20/08 9:25am

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LondonStyle said:

See I new this would happen....media circus... sad

http://www.guardian.co.uk...y-marriage

Can Prince really have spoken out against same-sex relationships? Did he really tell the New Yorker: "God came to earth and saw people sticking it wherever and doing it with whatever and he just cleared it all out. He was like 'Enough'"?

Now we're talking about Prince here, not Cliff Richard. You know, dressing in women's blouses, high heels, eyeliner Prince. The radically progressive artist who had people of all races, colours, creeds and sexual orientation in his band, the Revolution. The guy who adopted a female persona (Camille) to record the brilliant If I Was Your Girlfriend. But this was also the guy who gave his last album away free with the Mail on Sunday. Hmmm.

His people quickly denied the quote, telling website Dr Funkenberry: "The reporter was not allowed to use a tape recorder and so paraphrased nearly everything." This could be true; Prince rarely gives interviews and, when he does, a "no tape recorders" rule is normally in place.

The statement goes on to to say Prince never said the controversial "sticking it" quote: "Those were the WRITER'S words, not Prince's", apparently. Fair enough, although a glowing endorsement of gay marriage would have been better.

The rumours of him being anti-gay have been around for a while. There's a dramatic bit in Alex Hahn's book Possessed: The Rise and Fall of Prince where it details the time in 2000 where Prince was in talks to reform his Revolution band. He apparently told guitarist Wendy Melvoin (who was once involved in a same-sex relationship) through his drummer Bobby Z to hold a press conference denouncing her lifestyle.

Who knows if this is true? What we do know is that the Revolution never reformed but Wendy and Lisa did play with Prince at the Brits in 2006 and have appeared on his most recent album Planet Earth. Recently, when Wendy joined him onstage he introduced her as his best friend. When I spoke to Wendy and Lisa earlier this year, they still have a lot of love and affection for Prince with Lisa calling him "like a brother".

Whatever the validity of these claims, we've been here before. It's always a huge disappointment when an artist you've loved and lived with suddenly turns out to be horribly prejudiced or says bigoted things. Maybe it's like Joni Mitchell, one of Prince's heroes, once said: "Most of my heroes are monsters, unfortunately."

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Fair enough, although a glowing endorsement of gay marriage would have been better.

So if does not give a glowing endorsement of gay marrigae in ever interview he does he is a bigot.

I just can't believe how this thing has been blown out of portion by the media.
with all the things going on in the world we have nothing to do but worry about gay marriage in California and the opinion of a rock star. eek
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Reply #5 posted 11/20/08 9:27am

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Genesia said:

The Guardian thinks he's a bigot? Now I know I'm on Prince's side.



I'm there too wink
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Reply #6 posted 11/20/08 9:38am

wonder505

i hope i'm wrong but i think we should get ready for complete silence from now on, unless its a song or performance. I have a feeling this situation will make Prince decide not to do anymore interviews again. sad
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Reply #7 posted 11/20/08 9:50am

Dayclear

I can't believe that people are really just realizing this. He's been against it for almost 10 years!!
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Reply #8 posted 11/20/08 9:50am

Anxiety

i have my problems with prince's comments in the new yorker article, but i think the media are blowing it completely out of proportion. shame on them, but also shame just a little bit on prince too - this is not the time for making ambiguous comments regarding gay marriage unless you are willing to invite this kind of a shitstorm into your life.

but mostly, shame on the media.
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Reply #9 posted 11/20/08 9:58am

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wonder505 said:

i hope i'm wrong but i think we should get ready for complete silence from now on, unless its a song or performance. I have a feeling this situation will make Prince decide not to do anymore interviews again. sad

Then I'll be stuck watchin old interviews over and over and over hrmph shrug
I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh
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Reply #10 posted 11/20/08 9:58am

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JayJai said:

wonder505 said:

i hope i'm wrong but i think we should get ready for complete silence from now on, unless its a song or performance. I have a feeling this situation will make Prince decide not to do anymore interviews again. sad

Then I'll be stuck watchin old interviews over and over and over hrmph shrug


so will i. biggrin
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Reply #11 posted 11/20/08 9:58am

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laurarichardson said:

I just can't believe how this thing has been blown out of portion by the media.
with all the things going on in the world we have nothing to do but worry about gay marriage in California and the opinion of a rock star. eek


The opinion of a closet queen rock star means nothing but the issue of gay marriage itself is a very important issue.
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Reply #12 posted 11/20/08 10:02am

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Anxiety said:

i have my problems with prince's comments in the new yorker article, but i think the media are blowing it completely out of proportion. shame on them, but also shame just a little bit on prince too - this is not the time for making ambiguous comments regarding gay marriage unless you are willing to invite this kind of a shitstorm into your life.

but mostly, shame on the media.


Breaks no you have a problem with the New Yorker, if they didn't print this crap the other would not have a story ?

Ya think Prince sat down and said ok let talk about the 3 issues so close to my hart ...Black, God, And Gays ? no its the agenda of the writer / reporter they need a story..and forget my Music and My Book promotion?

Wake up and smell the deli? wink
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Reply #13 posted 11/20/08 10:10am

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vainandy said:

laurarichardson said:

I just can't believe how this thing has been blown out of portion by the media.
with all the things going on in the world we have nothing to do but worry about gay marriage in California and the opinion of a rock star. eek


The opinion of a closet queen rock star means nothing but the issue of gay marriage itself is a very important issue.



i dont think its a major issue. i think its worse killing babies before they are born. well it obvoiusly is.
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Reply #14 posted 11/20/08 10:11am

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LondonStyle said:


Can Prince really have spoken out against same-sex relationships? Did he really tell the New Yorker: "God came to earth and saw people sticking it wherever and doing it with whatever and he just cleared it all out. He was like 'Enough'"?


If this is true, the most hilarious part of all this is that his stupid drag queened ass would have been one of the FIRST to be obliterated into ashes when God came with judgement lol
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Reply #15 posted 11/20/08 10:12am

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hwbefhbwvfbqiiuvb said:

vainandy said:



The opinion of a closet queen rock star means nothing but the issue of gay marriage itself is a very important issue.



i dont think its a major issue. i think its worse killing babies before they are born. well it obvoiusly is.

Too bad you weren't one of gloria steinem's eggs.
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Reply #16 posted 11/20/08 10:15am

Imago

Anxiety said:

i have my problems with prince's comments in the new yorker article, but i think the media are blowing it completely out of proportion. shame on them, but also shame just a little bit on prince too - this is not the time for making ambiguous comments regarding gay marriage unless you are willing to invite this kind of a shitstorm into your life.

but mostly, shame on the media.

This is the same guy though that has a music video (Cinnamon Girl) where a girl walks into a public place with a bomb. lol

Prince won't say swear words cause they're supposedly offensive, but that doesn't mean he still doesn't like to be provocative. lol
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

hwbefhbwvfbqiiuvb said:




i dont think its a major issue. i think its worse killing babies before they are born. well it obvoiusly is.

Too bad you weren't one of gloria steinem's eggs.



please be more specific.
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Reply #18 posted 11/20/08 10:15am

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hwbefhbwvfbqiiuvb said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


Too bad you weren't one of gloria steinem's eggs.



please be more specific.

You're supposed to be an economic genius, add it up lol
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Reply #19 posted 11/20/08 10:15am

Imago

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

hwbefhbwvfbqiiuvb said:




please be more specific.

You're supposed to be an economic genius, add it up lol

oh lord, which alter is this? lol
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Reply #20 posted 11/20/08 10:17am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

hwbefhbwvfbqiiuvb said:




please be more specific.

You're supposed to be an economic genius, add it up lol



a PhD doesnt equal to genius.

ur shouting insecurity.

and very bad manners.

didnt ur parents have cash to send u to a good school? cuz they obviously did not teach u how to behave.
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Reply #21 posted 11/20/08 10:22am

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hwbefhbwvfbqiiuvb said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


You're supposed to be an economic genius, add it up lol



a PhD doesnt equal to genius.

ur shouting insecurity.

and very bad manners.

didnt ur parents have cash to send u to a good school? cuz they obviously did not teach u how to behave.


Is there a age limit on the org like you have to be over 6 years old or somthing to post a thred? lol lol
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Reply #22 posted 11/20/08 10:23am

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hwbefhbwvfbqiiuvb said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


You're supposed to be an economic genius, add it up lol



a PhD doesnt equal to genius.


you make that glaringly obvious lol



ur shouting insecurity.

and very bad manners.

didnt ur parents have cash to send u to a good school? cuz they obviously did not teach u how to behave.


Not as rude as someone who tries to control the entire female race lol To bad the Bush Doctrine couldn't have been applied to your mother lol
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Reply #23 posted 11/20/08 10:34am

Imago

eek
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Reply #24 posted 11/20/08 10:44am

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For the threadjackers.....















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I ain't felt this way in years...
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Reply #25 posted 11/20/08 10:45am

Imago

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For the threadjackers.....

















FUNNIEST GIF EVER!!! falloff falloff

I love Sam lol
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Reply #26 posted 11/20/08 10:47am

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Imago said:

KidaDynamite said:

For the threadjackers.....

















FUNNIEST GIF EVER!!! falloff falloff

I love Sam lol

I love the way his ass have to yell in every movie. falloff
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Reply #27 posted 11/20/08 10:48am

Anxiety

LondonStyle said:

Anxiety said:

i have my problems with prince's comments in the new yorker article, but i think the media are blowing it completely out of proportion. shame on them, but also shame just a little bit on prince too - this is not the time for making ambiguous comments regarding gay marriage unless you are willing to invite this kind of a shitstorm into your life.

but mostly, shame on the media.


Breaks no you have a problem with the New Yorker, if they didn't print this crap the other would not have a story ?

Ya think Prince sat down and said ok let talk about the 3 issues so close to my hart ...Black, God, And Gays ? no its the agenda of the writer / reporter they need a story..and forget my Music and My Book promotion?

Wake up and smell the deli? wink


that's your perspective.
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Reply #28 posted 11/20/08 10:48am

Imago

KidaDynamite said:

Imago said:



FUNNIEST GIF EVER!!! falloff falloff

I love Sam lol

I love the way his ass have to yell in every movie. falloff



falloff falloff

Even in Star Wars.


I seriously thought he was gonna yell, "Ani!! Toss me my motherfuckin light-saber!"
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Reply #29 posted 11/20/08 11:01am

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LondonStyle said:

hwbefhbwvfbqiiuvb said:




a PhD doesnt equal to genius.

ur shouting insecurity.

and very bad manners.

didnt ur parents have cash to send u to a good school? cuz they obviously did not teach u how to behave.


Is there a age limit on the org like you have to be over 6 years old or somthing to post a thred? lol lol



i know....but leave him alone u bloody pervert!
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