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Is 'Uptown' too far up its own ass?. Who here buys Uptown ?, me i've been buying it for years and i have to say that it seems to get more pretentious and over critical with each year. Everybody has the right to an opinion but i find some of the in depth articles on albums sooo negative and sooo judgemental. The editors and indeed the contributors that they choose seem to have put themselves on a little platform along with a handful of other so called experts who hang around alt.music.prince [boy do we know who THEY are!]. I imagine when they write some of the drivel that they sit there like little Roman emperors doing the 'thumb thing'.
We simply have no right to judge or demand things from Prince - we are NOT his masters - and i have to say that i am sick of all the Prince should do this/Prince should do that brigade. He's given us so damn much music that he's earn't the right to release crap[not that i think that he does]. So to UPTOWN lets try tobe a little more positive and a little less pretentious. Anyone agree?. | |
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javed said: Who here buys Uptown ?, me i've been buying it for years and i have to say that it seems to get more pretentious and over critical with each year.
i just started subscribin 2 those guys only a few months ago, so i really can't say much 4 that... Everybody has the right to an opinion but i find some of the in depth articles on albums sooo negative and sooo judgemental.
how so? explain. everyone needs a bit of criticism every now and again. even p's work, wonderful as it is, has its flaws.... The editors and indeed the contributors that they choose seem to have put themselves on a little platform along with a handful of other so called experts who hang around alt.music.prince [boy do we know who THEY are!].
i don't know much about the amp-ers, but there's a bit of false judgement here, methinx... 
I imagine when they write some of the drivel that they sit there like little Roman emperors doing the 'thumb thing'.
eh? We simply have no right to judge or demand things from Prince - we are NOT his masters ...
and he's not ours, either. and i have to say that i am sick of all the Prince should do this/Prince should do that brigade.
so am i, but u gotta admit, the brotha's phucked up a lot of stuff within his camp... He's given us so damn much music that he's earn't the right to release crap[not that i think that he does].
So to UPTOWN lets try tobe a little more positive and a little less pretentious. Anyone agree?. not i. u want "a little more positive"? ta-da. all this aside, uptown is a pretty cool magazine 2 read...and u gotta admit, it beats the pants off the cryptic beat-around-the-bush stylings of mr. nelson & co., huh? 
my  .
 beat that with a bat....twice!
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javed said: So to UPTOWN lets try tobe a little more positive and a little less pretentious. Anyone agree?. no... hell no 
you want positivity (aka his version of "the truth"), go to his website and save $7. you want an unbiased telling of how it really is, subscribe to/read uptown. | |
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suomynona said: javed said: So to UPTOWN lets try tobe a little more positive and a little less pretentious. Anyone agree?. no... hell no
you want positivity (aka his version of "the truth"), go to his website and save $7. you want an unbiased telling of how it really is, subscribe to/read uptown. u just said what i just said...  | |
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So to UPTOWN lets try tobe a little more positive and a little less pretentious. Anyone agree?.[/quote]
Anyone can have an opinion. You have to admire and respect Uptown because they stood to get busted by Prince for allegedly selling/promoting bootlegs a few years ago. That they continue to write about him, in spite of this is hugely commendable. Prince should let THEM run the NPGMC. That said, I don't agree with many things in Uptown, but I do respect them. | |
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Uptown is too far up its own ass sometimes, but I do like some of their analysis. I don't always agree with it, however. They treat Prince's music and legacy with the overall respect it deserves. I've always called them the "cliff notes" of Prince music. ***************************************************
Seems like the overly critical people are the sheep now days. It takes guts to admit that you like something. -Rdhull ...it ain't where ya from, it's where ya at... - Rakim | |
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javed said: Who here buys Uptown ?, me i've been buying it for years and i have to say that it seems to get more pretentious and over critical with each year. Everybody has the right to an opinion but i find some of the in depth articles on albums sooo negative and sooo judgemental. The editors and indeed the contributors that they choose seem to have put themselves on a little platform along with a handful of other so called experts who hang around alt.music.prince [boy do we know who THEY are!].
HAHAHA we do!!! and they either come from Holland or Belgium!!! You know who you are you reactionary morons! I imagine when they write some of the drivel that they sit there like little Roman emperors doing the 'thumb thing'. We simply have no right to judge or demand things from Prince - we are NOT his masters - and i have to say that i am sick of all the Prince should do this/Prince should do that brigade. He's given us so damn much music that he's earn't the right to release crap[not that i think that he does]. So to UPTOWN lets try tobe a little more positive and a little less pretentious. Anyone agree?. | |
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nas3110 said: allegedly selling/promoting bootlegs to clarify... uptown had 2 issues in their history that focused on bootlegs... it told about the quality of each of them (so those of us that already had everything prince put out officially and wanted to expand our collection wouldn't get screwed spending $25 on a poor quality boot.)
uptown never sold, nor encouraged the purchase of the bootlegs (which they said in those issues before they got sued.) just a bullshit lawsuit which didn't affect the way they report on him. if they like his current output, they say so. if they don't, they say so. (which is something they've always done.) they don't focus on his hairstyle, or his wife (unless she's with him in the studio doing backing vox)... just purely artistic stuff... which some folks around these parts need to focus more on... basically some folks (aka sheep) can't handle unbiased opinions/constructive criticism of prince for some reason... and those people need to go to head on over to the npgmc where even the shit smells like flowers. | |
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suomynona said: javed said: So to UPTOWN lets try tobe a little more positive and a little less pretentious. Anyone agree?. no... hell no
you want positivity (aka his version of "the truth"), go to his website and save $7. you want an unbiased telling of how it really is, subscribe to/read uptown. But isn't 'Uptown' not just 'Uptowns' 'Truth'. Just because it appears in 'Uptown' does that in itself lend it authority?. 'Uptown' is in no way unbiased. No writer or contributor ever is. It is all personal opinion. | |
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Even though it tends to think it knows better on everything Prince, I love Uptown. Cause somebody has to call a muthafucka a muthafucka sometimes. "Climb in my fur." | |
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rdhull said: Even though it tends to think it knows better on everything Prince, I love Uptown. Cause somebody has to call a muthafucka a muthafucka sometimes.
reverend!!! dang, they need a "reverend"-type icon in here now... | |
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rdhull said: Even though it tends to think it knows better on everything Prince, I love Uptown. Cause somebody has to call a muthafucka a muthafucka sometimes. it tends to, because it does  | |
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I wonder why you folks buy a mag like this (other than the studio recording infromation they supply)?
Why buy Uptown anyway (if you know that Prince has "-ucked-up")? It seems that you have more insight than they do. Eh? there really shouldn't be an "Uptown" magazine based on his career if he's done. Is Prince your president? I mean...damn.. Forget it... Now matter how many psycho-obsessive mags you read that agrees with your opinion, Prince still isn't going to do what you want him to. It's like the idol and history of "Prince" is a "Soap Opera" for you folks. You are living vicariously through Prince Rogers Nelson. Why are you hurting yourselves with this contradiction and hypocrisy? The folks at Uptown are just angry because he checked them. Bottom Line: If Prince was still the freak he used to be...Folks would be saying that he's too old. He's a married man. He's matured. They are theives! They are not former Prince associates. They are people who've found a niche audience of angry self-hating "Prince Obsessives" to manipulate. The mag is called Uptown (Minneapolis)! I doubt they even support any new artists from Minnesota. If his career is over, so is the "Gravytrain"... The gossip is over... The Relationships are gone.. The rivalries have dissolved.. The only thing a mag like "Uptown" can do (to save their existence) is to promote the flames of "self-hatred and angst" from a bunch of "Net-junkies" and Wannebes! Prince was doing their readers a favor by attacking Uptown. | |
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NGSPW7200 said: I wonder why you folks buy a mag like this (other than the studio recording infromation they supply)?
Why buy Uptown anyway (if you know that Prince has "-ucked-up")? It seems that you have more insight than they do. Eh? there really shouldn't be an "Uptown" magazine based on his career if he's done. Is Prince your president? I mean...damn.. Forget it... Now matter how many psycho-obsessive mags you read that agrees with your opinion, Prince still isn't going to do what you want him to. It's like the idol and history of "Prince" is a "Soap Opera" for you folks. You are living vicariously through Prince Rogers Nelson. Why are you hurting yourselves with this contradiction and hypocrisy? The folks at Uptown are just angry because he checked them. Bottom Line: If Prince was still the freak he used to be...Folks would be saying that he's too old. He's a married man. He's matured. They are theives! They are not former Prince associates. They are people who've found a niche audience of angry self-hating "Prince Obsessives" to manipulate. The mag is called Uptown (Minneapolis)! I doubt they even support any new artists from Minnesota. If his career is over, so is the "Gravytrain"... The gossip is over... The Relationships are gone.. The rivalries have dissolved.. The only thing a mag like "Uptown" can do (to save their existence) is to promote the flames of "self-hatred and angst" from a bunch of "Net-junkies" and Wannebes! Prince was doing their readers a favor by attacking Uptown. Oh now here YOU go ...its a fanzinbe, nothing more nothing less. It discusses his musical output past present and future.I dont think folks read it because the want to discuss superficial matters..and even if he is done in the commercial world of music folks still like to read about the music. It is the only magazine out there that is writing about his music on a consistent basis. Nobody is calling it the Prince bible. Just like any other mag it is written from opinion. It is interesting to read others opinions and experiences. No other mag is doing it. Shit, calm down. "Climb in my fur." | |
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The folks at Uptown are just angry because he checked them. said by someone who's never read it.
If his career is over, so is the "Gravytrain"... they make as much money as ben does for prince.org. ($0)
the $7 covers printing, shipping, and other costs.
The gossip is over... there's no gossip in uptown. uptown is a fact driven magazine written for admirers of prince.
if you want gossip (such as announced then never-to-be-released albums) head on over to the npgmc website.
Prince was doing their readers a favor by attacking Uptown. funny, all he accomplished was them agreeing to no longer talk about bootlegs and to have something on the cover stating that uptown was not affiliated with paisley park (duh, as if anyone thought it was). | |
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NGSPW7200 said: The only thing a mag like "Uptown" can do (to save their existence) is to promote the flames of "self-hatred and angst" from a bunch of "Net-junkies" and Wannebes! look in a mirror and say that again.  | |
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PlastikLuvAffair said: look in a mirror and say that again.  amen to that.
where's the black kettle icon? | |
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javed said: Who here buys Uptown ?, me i've been buying it for years and i have to say that it seems to get more pretentious and over critical with each year. Everybody has the right to an opinion but i find some of the in depth articles on albums sooo negative and sooo judgemental. The editors and indeed the contributors that they choose seem to have put themselves on a little platform along with a handful of other so called experts who hang around alt.music.prince [boy do we know who THEY are!]. I imagine when they write some of the drivel that they sit there like little Roman emperors doing the 'thumb thing'.
We simply have no right to judge or demand things from Prince - we are NOT his masters - and i have to say that i am sick of all the Prince should do this/Prince should do that brigade. He's given us so damn much music that he's earn't the right to release crap[not that i think that he does]. So to UPTOWN lets try tobe a little more positive and a little less pretentious. Anyone agree?. I agree with you 100%, except for the part about Prince releasing more crap.  I would hope he wouldn't start that again. If he doesn't feel the burn he should just chill out til he does instead of punching the clock. Oops. Another he should POV. 
But considering some of the people contributing to the magazine, it's not surprising. I don't have a habit of buying Uptown, though I've read more than I've owned. This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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Speaking of Uptown...I haven't read the two latest issues.Are they any good? | |
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I only know that I sometimes really don't understand their reviews of songs like Electric Intercourse or Condition of the Heart. | |
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The interviews with people who can shed some light on a particular situation are cool, don't care for those analyses 'cause they're often taking Prince, his music and themselves too seriously. Either you like the song/album or you don't, it's really that simple. | |
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I agree. My favorite part of Uptown is that, for the most part, they are about the historical documentation. Esp. with Per's books (which I understand are somewhat outwisde the sphere of Uptown). I don't need somebody to tell me "Prince must have been...because.." since, chances are, it's conjecture. *shrug*
Reading things like interviews with producers, tour helpers, associated artists, etc. are the bread and butter, in my book. joeycoco said: The interviews with people who can shed some light on a particular situation are cool, don't care for those analyses 'cause they're often taking Prince, his music and themselves too seriously. Either you like the song/album or you don't, it's really that simple. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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joeycoco said: The interviews with people who can shed some light on a particular situation are cool, don't care for those analyses 'cause they're often taking Prince, his music and themselves too seriously. Either you like the song/album or you don't, it's really that simple.
Agreed. Some of the analysis is plainly anal and laughable. | |
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I've read every issue except maybe four or 5 that have come out when I was on a deployment. This is the best if not the only magazine out there that does offer an insight in2 the Prince world. Sometimes they are critical but overall I think that they are pretty fair in reporting on the Prince history. Major props 4 taking on the lawsuit and still publishing...When we don't hear a peep out of the Prince camp it's nice to pick up this magazine once a quarter. I proudly support their work and will hang in there till the end which I hope is no time soon...Aloha~~ | |
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javed said: Who here buys Uptown ?, me i've been buying it for years and i have to say that it seems to get more pretentious and over critical with each year. Everybody has the right to an opinion but i find some of the in depth articles on albums sooo negative and sooo judgemental. .
isn't that the point of a review/analysis? to be judgemental? | |
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Uptown Magazine Staff... There okay... They are basicly nice people... Just like everyone, they are just into Prince and the music. They are Fams/Fans no more or less... | |
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NGSPW7200 said: I don't know, I was too distracted by that ghost in his avatar... :O   I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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CalhounSq said: I don't know, I was too distracted by that ghost in his avatar... :O haha... | |
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The magazine sucks! They need to freshin' it up some. Tell me something I don't know. By the time the magazine comes out it's old news. It might be good for newer fans, but for the ones who've been around 20+ years...zzz. "The little 1 will escort u 2 the places within ur mind" | |
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suomynona said: rdhull said: Even though it tends to think it knows better on everything Prince, I love Uptown. Cause somebody has to call a muthafucka a muthafucka sometimes. it tends to, because it does no, it doesn't. ***************************************************
Seems like the overly critical people are the sheep now days. It takes guts to admit that you like something. -Rdhull ...it ain't where ya from, it's where ya at... - Rakim | |
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