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Reply #90 posted 10/29/08 10:40am

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laurarichardson said:

remko said:



Will the world stop turning if we CAN see a video of Prince on Youtube? I think it is interesting that some artists have business that make no problem of youtube, and (some) others do.

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If you know how to look you can see plenty and find lots of material to purchase and look at on your DVD.

I actually dislike the popularity of Youtube because for years you could easily obtain bootleg footage of P and now everybody knows about the footage. If any of you took the time to think about it Youtube is the worst thing that could have happen for those of us who like to collect video footage and music.


did u ever stop and think that places like youtube help a artists community in reaching out 2 fans worldwide that can't either c something in another country like when P was on the brit awards? naw ..that concept gets lost on u.

sometimes i swear u act like ur P's personal assistant or his accountant. or even worse someone that works 4 the websherrif. u kiss prince's ass 2 the fulliest and ur 1st 2 curse someone out 4 having a open minded discussion or they don't like something prince has done.

u seriously need 2 check urself
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #91 posted 10/29/08 10:49am

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laurarichardson said:

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Looks like both you & Prince could stand to do some research. Go to Youtube & see how many hits you get for Spielberg & his work. Quite a few. You know why? Because THAT man is too busy working to give a shit. If only Prince would spend more time in a studio & less time with this b.s., he might make some music worth pirating, let alone talking about.

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Maybe it is because Speilberg is not aware the stuff is up on YOUTUBE.
Lot's of movie studios and artist are having their stuff removed.

The FBI came out and arrested a Blogger for putting up a copy of the new Guns and Roses CD on their blog.

People care a lot about a lost of money when they find out what is going on.



That's a VERY big "maybe." That perhaps the most well known American director alive today, who is responsible for some of the most landmark films in pop culture would not know or suspect that his work is available for viewing through the most popular video site...VERY big "maybe." And if he's still true to his roots as an innovator, it'd be a very foolish "maybe."

After all, while he's never employed someone specifically to carry a makeup tool so he could write "SLAVE" on his face, Spielberg still likely has a much bigger staff than Prince to look out for this sort of thing, if he did care.

And with your other arguments on the matter in the past, isn't always someone else doing the digging & the suing? Not the artist? Or does that only apply to your hero?

And anyway, as much time as Prince seems to spend looking for examples of his own work, maybe he should check himself before claiming anything about Spielberg. Like I said - one search for one word relating to Spielberg & tens of thousands of hits. Not too hard.
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Reply #92 posted 10/29/08 11:48am

viewaskew

L4OATheOriginal said:

laurarichardson said:


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If you know how to look you can see plenty and find lots of material to purchase and look at on your DVD.

I actually dislike the popularity of Youtube because for years you could easily obtain bootleg footage of P and now everybody knows about the footage. If any of you took the time to think about it Youtube is the worst thing that could have happen for those of us who like to collect video footage and music.


did u ever stop and think...


You could have stopped right there & answered "No." Some people here see through their purple colored glasses no matter what the issue & would argue that Prince's farts smell like roses.
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Reply #93 posted 10/29/08 3:03pm

violetblues

Speilberg among most movie companies are deeply involved stopping Piracy.
Spielberg’s DreamWorks was among the names of those suing PirateBay

They spend a lot of money protecting their work, which is now just another part in the entertainment & software and other content producing Industries.

Prince has a valid point, most here whine about getting everything for free, but to produce product costs money.

Ohh yeah, Prince and all content producers would be really cool and happening if only they would just chill out make everything free. Yeah, That and broke, or that and non existent.
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Reply #94 posted 10/29/08 9:00pm

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laurarichardson said:

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The Prince of 1996 would call the Prince of 2008 a complete asshole for thinking this way. What happened to making art for art's sake?

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It is a business and I think Prince was always about the money. Nothing wrong with that.


I knew a different Prince once upon a time...

"When you sit down to write something, there should be no guidelines. The main idea is not supposed to be, 'How many different ways can we sell it?' That's so far away from the true spirit of what music is. Music starts free, with just a spark of inspiration. When limits are set by another party that walks into the ball game afterward, that's fighting inspiration" (Prince, November 17, 1996, New York Times).
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Reply #95 posted 10/30/08 2:27am

Tremolina

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laurarichardson said:


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It is a business and I think Prince was always about the money. Nothing wrong with that.


I knew a different Prince once upon a time...

"When you sit down to write something, there should be no guidelines. The main idea is not supposed to be, 'How many different ways can we sell it?' That's so far away from the true spirit of what music is. Music starts free, with just a spark of inspiration. When limits are set by another party that walks into the ball game afterward, that's fighting inspiration" (Prince, November 17, 1996, New York Times).

Oh all the "beautiful words" he wrote and said on making music for the art of it and not the money, for the freedom, the love and ladidadida.

The facts show that none of them are TRUE.

Prince is first about control and money. "Art" and "freedom" come second.
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Reply #96 posted 10/30/08 4:07am

SoulAlive

laurarichardson said:

If you know how to look you can see plenty and find lots of material to purchase and look at on your DVD.I actually dislike the popularity of Youtube because for years you could easily obtain bootleg footage of P and now everybody knows about the footage. If any of you took the time to think about it Youtube is the worst thing that could have happen for those of us who like to collect video footage and music.


So,you're against YouTube and Prince getting ripped off,yet you openly admit that you collect bootleg footage of Prince? lol Really,what's the difference? You're still going against the wishes of an artist that you admire.
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Reply #97 posted 10/30/08 6:11am

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laurarichardson said:

remko said:



Will the world stop turning if we CAN see a video of Prince on Youtube? I think it is interesting that some artists have business that make no problem of youtube, and (some) others do.

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If you know how to look you can see plenty and find lots of material to purchase and look at on your DVD.

I actually dislike the popularity of Youtube because for years you could easily obtain bootleg footage of P and now everybody knows about the footage. If any of you took the time to think about it Youtube is the worst thing that could have happen for those of us who like to collect video footage and music.


So let me translate this: your answer is NO the world won't stop turning. (apart from my own world of collecting bootleg metarial.
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Reply #98 posted 11/03/08 9:28am

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WONDERFUL 2 hear Prince talk:)
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Reply #99 posted 11/03/08 1:05pm

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The game does not change, it just changes up....
P has changed along with the times and that's Y I can't get a clear overstanding of his complaint. Anyone out there remember the Fresh Festival. Cool J, Whodini, Run-DMC The Fat Boys ect. I never purchased a tape back then except for Cool J and Run-DMC. The others I copied, but I still went to the show! The artist still got paid.
P should put the music out in any creative way he can if it's all about money. Atleast that's what this sounds like, the almighty dollar. P always said it was about the music. It's not looking that way now. He mentioned in the article 1999 and the biblical ref in current times. He could have put out 1999 in 1899 and it would have still been relevant. The BS with government, biblical end, hunger has always been here and will be until we leave this earth. Regardsless of flood, shed of blood, war, the mighty hand of God or all the above.
P should think of the fans that adore him and his music and give it up!
WHERE IS THE FUNK MAN!!!!! I will go knock on doors with P for a new album each year.

(When feeding the children, don't forget the funk!)
I`ve never been 1 2 hide my feelings
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Reply #100 posted 11/05/08 7:28pm

elvis5555

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"Today, it's not realistic to expect to put out new music and profit from it. There's no point in trying to put new music out there and keep it from being (exploited)," he says.



i think this is just stinkin' thinkin'. sigh

even if the planet earth album didn't burn up the music charts last year, he did profit from the newspaper freebie deal and he did win a grammy for a song from that album. is that not profit?

meanwhile, i don't see anyone trying to exploit any of prince's new music. maybe he means this more on the level of the music industry and less on the level of illegal downloading/bootlegging/trading, etc. - but even if he's talking more on an industry level, the last i recall, prince got the upper hand over the record label with the newspaper distribution deal.

so who's exploiting who? i'm not mad at him, but come on now. he made out pretty good with his last album, i wish he could appreciate and take pride in that fact.
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Reply #101 posted 11/05/08 7:34pm

elvis5555

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"Today, it's not realistic to expect to put out new music and profit from it. There's no point in trying to put new music out there and keep it from being (exploited)," he says.


He "!!won!!" a grammy. that says it all. I remember a quote from Prince saying: I could win lots of Grammy's if I choose to make music like U2. Well he didnt, and if he wins Grammy's now adays: Go for it. ok to give u some ( alot) credit, Prince can be wierd >> lovesexy 1988
i think this is just stinkin' thinkin'. sigh

even if the planet earth album didn't burn up the music charts last year, he did profit from the newspaper freebie deal and he did win a grammy for a song from that album. is that not profit?

meanwhile, i don't see anyone trying to exploit any of prince's new music. maybe he means this more on the level of the music industry and less on the level of illegal downloading/bootlegging/trading, etc. - but even if he's talking more on an industry level, the last i recall, prince got the upper hand over the record label with the newspaper distribution deal.

so who's exploiting who? i'm not mad at him, but come on now. he made out pretty good with his last album, i wish he could appreciate and take pride in that fact.
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Reply #102 posted 11/05/08 11:55pm

mrsquirrel

Rihanna? Possibly something about the way she twirled that umberlla...
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Reply #103 posted 11/09/08 8:38am

party

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/a...WHlZCVEhkF

Prince Continues to Chart His Own Course
By NEKESA MUMBI MOODY, AP Music Writer Nekesa Mumbi Moody

NEW YORK – At a celebration/concert for Prince's new book, late night had turned into early morning, the bar was closing and party organizers were deciding what decorations to pack up first.

But Prince was still on stage — and still captivating the exclusive group of about 200 fans who had gathered in an intimate penthouse loft to hear him perform.

Though he had taken about a two-hour break between sets, Prince was entering hour four in what would become a nearly five-hour musical extravaganza that not only included his own seminal hits like "Purple Rain" and "Little Red Corvette," but also interpretations of music from Jimi Hendrix, the Beatles, The Rolling Stones and even Janet Jackson and India.Arie for good measure. (Fans paid $1,000 for the first jam session and $300 for the second: Proceeds went to charity.)

It's this kind of magic that Prince tried to capture with "21 Nights," a glossy coffee-table book published by Simon & Schuster that documents the glamorous rocker during his record-breaking, 21-night run at London's 02 Arena last year. The book not only steals glimpses of his onstage performances, but also behind-the-scenes moments of the star and his band during the unprecedented concert stint.

"No one had ever sold out 21 nights in a row," said photographer Randee St. Nicholas. "So I thought, 'We should do a book surrounding this point in his life, because this is a great point in his life.'"

While his three-decades-long career has been meticulously chronicled, Prince is quick to point out, "Not by me — never by me. That's someone else who's on the outside looking in." This time, it's Prince — with St. Nicholas — telling the story, through his own frame of reference.

"This was a landmark event," says Prince, sitting on the rooftop with the Manhattan skyline as his backdrop during a break from rehearsals before the evening's musical marathon. "No one believed that it would do what it did. ... Everyone tried to talk me out of it."

Of course, Prince is used to proving skeptics wrong. These days, he's regarded as a pioneer for artists' rights and known for releasing music over the Internet. But when he left his longtime label Warner Bros. nearly two decades ago after a protracted battle over his creative path, and abandoned major record labels to release music on his own, he left everyone — from fans to musician insiders — wondering if he had lost his mind.

In recent years, he has re-linked with major record labels like Sony and Universal Music Group to release his albums, but isn't sure any record is worth putting out in this era of piracy and illegal downloads. Though the book includes a CD, it contains no new songs, just classic hits and other songs from one of his signature jam sessions.

"Today, it's not realistic to expect to put out new music and profit from it. There's no point in trying to put new music out there and keep it from being (exploited)," he says.

And he now has disdain for the way the Internet has, in his view, subverted artists' rights.

"The powers that be are abusing the copyright infringement," he says. "You can't sample Steven Spielberg; you don't see his stuff up there, just old tapes of the Ohio Players, who can't afford to defend themselves."

But while Prince exudes hints of frustration, he's hardly bitter: These days, serenity and good-natured fun seem to be his mantra.

Though he professes shyness, the diminutive artist gives a warm hug as a welcome, and during his show — which had Spike Lee, Anderson Cooper and Dave Chappelle in the audience — he had fans laughing as he cracked jokes throughout (among his more memorable was referring to himself as Rihanna, an allusion to Internet gossip that the statuesque singer had been mistaken for Prince).

St. Nicholas, a longtime friend, says Prince's conversion to the Jehovah's Witness faith several years ago has helped him evolve into a more spiritual person — and a more open one, in comparison with his reputation as a moody recluse. But Prince's public image has never been the real Prince that friends see behind closed doors, she adds.

"He's shy. But he doesn't necessarily hide or shield himself and attempt this mysterious persona that he has," she says of the twice-divorced star.

"You know children? You never know what they are going to do one minute to the next? ... That's very much how he is," she explains. "In a way it's very open, because if you can just hang in that moment with him, and just go for it — you're not worrying about the past."

And at times, Prince isn't even consumed with the present. While he talked about biblical implications to the recent stock market plunge ("that's why I had to bring back this song," he says as his band rehearses "1999" in the background), when it comes to a recent milestone, he's decidedly nonchalant.

"How old are we really?" asks Prince, who turned 50 in June. "It's about ascension. It's not the other way. There's nothing down about it. Everything is better."

As an example, he points to the 21-night run in London: "I couldn't have sold out 21 nights in London in the peak of my career; it would have been an impossibility," he says.

"I look forward to these years where everything is just open sky. I wish this for every artist: freedom."
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Reply #104 posted 11/09/08 9:06am

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I.ve been a longtime Prince/NPG friend 4 decades.I Love his band his music heals my Soul.I listen 2 old school music all the time.Lots of Jimi Hendrix.But it always leads me back 2 Prince.Old Prince and New Prince.U know not every thing he puts out is gonna be Great.But u can rest asure that there will b something FUNKY on any album.As long as there is something FUNKY on any album,it,s all good.Remember 2 that Prince writes the SICKEST!! Love Songs/Slow Jams Ever!!.My thing is that I feel like I will never see him and his band again.So maybe in the near Future I hope 2 see U again.Stay FUNKY!!!.P.S.Can,t wait 2 buy your book.
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Reply #105 posted 11/11/08 10:34am

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prince ass kissers don't need big mouths to kiss his small ass stoned

L4OATheOriginal said:

laurarichardson said:


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If you know how to look you can see plenty and find lots of material to purchase and look at on your DVD.

I actually dislike the popularity of Youtube because for years you could easily obtain bootleg footage of P and now everybody knows about the footage. If any of you took the time to think about it Youtube is the worst thing that could have happen for those of us who like to collect video footage and music.


did u ever stop and think that places like youtube help a artists community in reaching out 2 fans worldwide that can't either c something in another country like when P was on the brit awards? naw ..that concept gets lost on u.

sometimes i swear u act like ur P's personal assistant or his accountant. or even worse someone that works 4 the websherrif. u kiss prince's ass 2 the fulliest and ur 1st 2 curse someone out 4 having a open minded discussion or they don't like something prince has done.

u seriously need 2 check urself
Oh Dear, I am a Dirty Cunt for you
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Reply #106 posted 11/11/08 7:12pm

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What a perfect stranger...

(wink)

Take Care,
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