emesem said:

yeah...i go with that assessment. But I don't think his career is ruined. I'd like to know what a ruined Prince career looks like cuz I bet there are alot of musical artists who would gladly trade places with him.

rusty1 said:

Even when he was cursing during the Gold & NPGMC song days S&M Groove and Northside days, the music was STILL not that good. I think that's an excuse because 3121 was the best thing he released in a very long time.

No one ever made Prince do anything

I personally don't mind that P has cleaned up his act, a little.
At least now my Kids can listen to the newer stuff.
Besides the shock factor of using the F word or talking about sex in songs.
Is kinda wore off, its common place now, nothing special in this day and age.

The music is good and he can still play guitar, right?


What thread is next ? - "Prince's bad hip ruined his career" ,
or "Prince's career is over, because god didn't want him doing the splits"

Getting addicted to prince.org ruined my career, hahaha!

dseann said:

He CHOSE to be jw.
He did NOT, repeat, not CHOOSE to be from his racial background.

His religious beliefs are not immune from criticism. Amongst them are values that may disagree with a intrinsic aspect of another human being. So you want that human to be prosecuted for defending themselves for being who they are?

A lot of older people become more hardcore about religion as they grow older.
It’s no surprise; some people hear the grim reaper knocking and start donating to their local church a little more.

As a long time Prince fan, i don’t miss the seedier part of Prince, i miss the good music, i hope he starts acting his age, that doesn’t mean he has to release dated music, one does not go with the other, they have nothing to do with each other.
U2 has always been religious and it hasn’t affected their music. It's still great.
And I bet the jv's are kissing his ass big time as they receive 10% of his income, when they see the concert grosses i bet their eyes light up! Chh Chhing!

He gets a little salvation and peace of mind and they get A 10% cut of his income, it's a win, win type of arrangement.

(someone told me the JV's do not require the 10% "Tithing" anymore, my bad)

Also, as a long time fan of the man, you should realize that from the very beginnings that the man was a fringe character, he wasn’t accepted by the mainstream and didn’t care then, and he will go out that way and he likes it that way.
He is proud to note that he "wears what another wouldn’t dare" he wears make-up and high heels, sang about "head"
He doesn’t care what a little fanboys think, just that they keep supporting him until he see fit he doesn’t need you.
He is my favorite muscian, i've been listening to him since i was a kid, and he has always been a little weird, i come here with a " ohh shit what has little dude done now!" attitude, always have, and am always entertained on way or another.
Let it be
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spoida said:

How the fuck can Prince choosing to be a JW be interpreted as being an attack on someone else being who they are? I'm not a JW, but don't think it's my business why Prince or anyone else for that matter made the choice to worship their God in that way.

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[Edited 10/26/08 20:08pm]

at least he's got his priorities straight.

eye think it's a gud thing that P has decided 2 change his lyf around. 2 me, his music iz still awsome.
luk @ it lyk eye do; Prince has his own mind. he's a person lyk tha rest of us so he's gonna do wat he feels weather we (his fans or whoeva else) lyk it or not.
[Edited 10/26/08 20:12pm]

LoyalAndTrue said:

U sure about that?

DesireeNevermind said:

yes.

he's heading in the right direction. even though the road is unpaved and hard to travel, the destination will be worth it.

LoyalAndTrue said:

hard to travel unpaved road? I don't think he will last the journey and I'm certain its about to be a dead end.

DesireeNevermind said:

it's not easy, for him or anyone, i agree.

but i like to think positively that it will work out for him. we're all prone to imperfection ourselves.

depends what is in his heart, and i can't say, only he knows.

DesireeNevermind said:

yeah, especially with that bum hip,....and carring all that makeup, conditioner, and with those heels! fah-geht-abah-it.

LoyalAndTrue said:

not voting (cause jw's told him not to) and not receiving medical care (when needed, which jw's also tell their people not to do and other stuff they force people to do).. isn't the right direction to be going in... and Rusty? for once, this is the one thread I'mma say I agree with you....

and Christianity.. has nothing to do .. with jw's ..
[Edited 10/28/08 19:18pm]

Flowers2 said:

well, that is your right to your opinion, but only God decides, as written in his word the bible.

and i'll admit that you've taken me aback with the forcefulness and accusing tone.

what do you have against JW's?

LoyalAndTrue said:

no accusations.. that's what they believe...

I'm glad to see, for the most part, that Prince fans has accepted his religious decision and has also moved on. He is a legend, and will always do what he likes best and make music...whether you like the it or not!

Prince being a loving person is his only mission. What more could we expect.

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Why make statements like this unless you have any substantial proof?
No, JWs do not tithe or every did! JWs do not care about Prince's money or anyone elses. JWs only care about Prince as their fellow brother and his spirituality. If you visit a Kingdom Hall, there are no plates passed around or any pressure to give money. We tithe with our time out in the ministry.

AQUABOOGIE said:

huge BS... how do you think bills get paid? it's called giving and.. unless they have changed their doctrine AGAIN (cause that's the way it was in the 90's) .. from what I remember.. they're suppose to give a week out of the month's salary to the organization..... they gave Michael an ultimatum a decade ago, told him to renounce the music world or else (Michael said no) .... they put him out and now they accept Prince?.. right please

Prince's musical output was suffering long before he became a Jehovah's Witness. I started holding my nose when I first heard "Dig U Betta Dead."

Flowers2 said:

i guess it's a matter of the way you look at it.



may i ask, what do you understand Jesus meant when he said that his followers were to be no part of the world?


this is not an accurate statement, we go to doctors and have medical insurance and so forth. where did you hear otherwise?




what does being a Christian mean to you? isn't it doing what Jesus said we should do, 'preaching the Good News about the Kingdom to all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations' before the end comes?

Flowers2 said:

this is also a huge misunderstanding.

each one gives according to their own circumstances and what each one decides for themselves what they are capable of giving, it's "not under compulsion".

also our preaching work is voluntary, we support our own preaching activities, such as transportation and the volunteering of our time preach.

in the end the bills get paid and nobody knows who was able to contribute (unless they wrote a check and used it for tax deduction purposes) that month, or not able to at all.

and yes, the main concern is on the spirituality of the individuals in the congregations, that is what those who are head of the congregations main responsibilities are, to serve the congregation.

I applaud Prince for becoming a Jehovahs Wittness, I think it has made him soar to new heights as a man and an artists, there is no doubt about that. Blessings come to those who give praise to the creator and father of all of us. Prince has been blessed with a remarkable 30 year career, innovative marketing ideas, and an unprecedented reign as a musical entrepenuer. He may have personal trials from time to time but who doesnt?? He is only a human being who lives and who learns and who tries to do the right thing, I believe. We all make mistakes, even a Prince

Follow the pattern set by Gods son Jesus Christ and try your best to live by Gods principles and you will have peace and a clear conscience. Music is a gift to be shared in freedom! Prince has freedom, he said it in the interview in NY. He has acheived Ascension, Not a ruined career.

Peace and love

I would like to hear Jesus take on JWs and this:

I don't think it ruined it. Certainly hasn't helped much, though. The problem is that he insists on shoving it down everyone's throat: calling a press conference & talking about "the scriptures?" Please. His endless ego, increasingly bland music & his asshole behavior is what's driving his career down the toilet.
[Edited 10/29/08 2:17am]

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