lottielooloo1968 said:

If u lick his chest u may get hairballs

chillichocaholic said:

meow!

meow85 said:

meow85 said:

he thinks he's Jesus.

purplesweat said:

Full-on feminist might be a stretch, I agree. But at the same time it's hard to argue that a song like Pussy Control comes from a mysoginistic place, either.

jb86 said:

how ironic

So, seriously, what is a feminist and what does she stand for? I've never known.

I've just read Wiki and now I understand. Hmm, oppresion eh? Those radical types seem a bit full on. Be taking out the local snooker hall by mail bomb some day I guess.

I suppose it would be chauvinistic to ask if there is a male movement for, not so much oppression of the sex, but more 'expectation' of the male?
[Edited 10/10/08 0:41am]

purplesweat said:

See now I read the snippet of article and saw it in two ways. One, I feel the mag is belittling the women who know nothing of the feminist struggle. Two, it shows they have a sense of humour and can still laugh at themselves and/or women of differing values.

And is it possible to be ruled by the cock and be a feminist? I know nothing of this so it's a genuine question.

PS: And, three, it undermines the article (or part thereof) through its trivialisation.
[Edited 10/10/08 0:51am]

iloveannie said:

Not all feminists are women, first of all. And what they stand for is as varied as the people who call themselves feminists. Ask 100 different feminists what feminism is and you'll get 100 different answers.

"...taking out the local snooker hall by mail bomb"? Where are you going with that?

As for your last comment, my personal vision of what feminism is denotes equal treatment and expectations of all sexes and genders. It's not just a so-called women's issue, it's a people issue. That includes expecting men to step up too.

iloveannie said:

How so?

meow85 said:

With this bit: "Others on the board kept their comments simple: "I like the illustration but it doesn't do justice 2 his amazing arse.""

It seemed a bit acidic to me.

iloveannie said:

And no, there's no pro-male movement because society as a whole is pro-male already.

meow85 said:

Sure, but one barely successful song against a whole career? Not to mention the way he treated Mayte outside of his career?

There's no way I'd ever see Prince as feminist.

meow85 said:

Sure, but one barely successful song against a whole career? Not to mention the way he treated Mayte outside of his career?

There's no way I'd ever see Prince as feminist.

iloveannie said:

As far as that goes, I'd side with them. There's no excuse IMO for not knowing and appreciating the struggles that have afforded women in certain countries the rights we have, and the ongoing struggles for those that don't.

Wilfull ignorance deserves to be mocked, if you ask me.

purplesweat said:

I'm not sure where you think a song's success has anything to do with what we're talking about.

Did you read the article when it was posted in the original thread? I can't remember all of it right now, but it did make some good arguments, while at the same time making a point of highlighting Prince's blatantly anti-woman behaviour. It wasn't all kisses and roses for the guy.

As for the Mayte thing, all reports seem to be that he treats everyone around him, men and women, like utter shit. That to me says he's more an equal opportunity asshole than specifically anti-women.

meow85 said:

I mentioned success because it's a song only dedicated fans know. Fortunately as far as I can remember he's never had a widely successful misogynistic song either except maybe the double standards of Little Red Corvette.

And sure, I agree about treating everyone like shit, but it's not like he chooses outfits for his male friends or employees. Also the whole "you're my wife but you can never call me" thing is just low IMO.

You misunderstood my question. It can be argued that a male has to act in a certain manner. To not act as such is considered non-male (non-macho if you will). I'm not talking about a man acting feminine, just not the gender-(stereo)typical role.

In certain groups, societies and cultures the man is oppressed by others, both male and female. Not to the extent of the female I know (guess) but inhibited nonetheless.

iloveannie said:

Sorry, I don't agree.

Men have never known and still will never know the oppression women have had to endure.

purplesweat said:

I could counter that with saying that as a woman (damn I hope you are now) you will never know how it feels to be a man and the duty that society places upon him.

And I'm not comparing the treatment of the two sexes as equal, just highlighting the fact that perhaps many men feel that to not act in the manner they wish and live the way they would like, hell even think the way they want, would be frowned upon and belittled for not being so 'male'.

I have to ask, why has the female species allowed this 'oppression' to happen? Is she naturally physically weaker thus allowing the male to rule by way of aggression? Or is it more subtle?

One could ask are we of the same kind? Are we looking at the same goal when perhaps our games are very different?

iloveannie said:

Sure, but where does "female oppression" come into the way a man "should" act?

If going by your mentality, there is a certain pressure to be a certain way for men, then oppressing females would be one aspect of that expectation right?

As for the whole "allowing" thing - give me a break. I have to ask now, are you male or female? Because I'm sensing a male here....

purplesweat said:

Umm, yes I'm a man. I had my back waxed the other day so surely that's a sign that men are being forced to change?

Anyway get back in the kitchen and fetch me a cuppa! Too much dangerous talk from the women around here if you ask me. And I know better than to argue with women. Especially about things I know little of.

And what about Bitch Magazine!??!!!

lottielooloo1968 said:

OH YEAH! I love his arse, his arse, his arse...

lottielooloo1968 said:

MEEOWWWWW! Sweetest of Kitty Kitties!

purplesweat said:

You can't tell me the Game Boyz picked out thsoe silly ass costumes themselves.