optimus said:

This clearly depends on how you're defining "rap". Optimus, if you are referring to rap/hip hop music, then no -- from day one that song has never come across to me the least bit like rap or hip hop music. There were R'n'B artists that did this kind of thing years before rap/hip hop music reared its head. Talking and rhyming is not automatically defined as rap/hip hop music. It would be far different if we were trying to claim that Jughead was not rap. That would be a pretty hard one to defend. I will say by dictionary definition, what P is doing in Mr. G is "rapping" to the girl (talk or chat in an easy or familiar manner), BUT that does not make it rap/hip hop music. That would be like saying Barry White was a rapper.

It is not a rap. It is seductive Prince at work. He's having fun wooing a hot babe.

I didnt think it was a rap either...more like smoothe talking. Kinda like smoothe jazz or something. Oh, and I like MC Hammer I thought he was a good rapper..no?

Yes but thats like saying Adore is a dance tune

I've just found out what constitutes good music. As long as Tremolina loves it, it's good. Tremolina hates it and anyone else who likes it is clueless about music. How humble of you Tremolina.
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This clearly depends on how you're defining "rap". Optimus, if you are referring to rap/hip hop music, then no -- from day one that song has never come across to me the least bit like rap or hip hop music. There were R'n'B artists that did this kind of thing years before rap/hip hop music reared its head. Talking and rhyming is not automatically defined as rap/hip hop music. It would be far different if we were trying to claim that Jughead was not rap. That would be a pretty hard one to defend. I will say by dictionary definition, what P is doing in Mr. G is "rapping" to the girl (talk or chat in an easy or familiar manner), BUT that does not make it rap/hip hop music. That would be like saying Barry White was a rapper.

no barry white talked at the beggining of a song, but it didnt ryhme duh! then hed sing his song, it is a rap, is there any1 else who would say Mr Goodnight isnt a rap, i cant believe im havin this argument...its a rap end of!

You're right Optimus, Prince is rapping on Mr. Goodnight. However, it's not a rap/hip tune. He's rapping over a smooth R&B groove. Calling this a rap/hip hop tune is like calling Blondie's "Rapture" a rap/hip hop tune.

Thanks, but not half as as humble as you and purplesweat were regarding riverpoet's opinion.

Can't simply respect somebody else's opinion? Then don't expect any respect yourself either.

I've heard plenty of bad Prince songs and Mr. Goodnight is far, far from his worst ever. Even you know that so quit bullshitting.

To be honest with you, compared to Lil Wayne who I think is at the top of the Hip Hop game right now, Prince actually sounds pretty decent. I'd rather listen to Mr. Goodnight than Lollipop.

Yeah, or somethin like drop it like itz hoootttt. I think snoops wrote that one when he was on the toilet.

okkay well lets but it this way...he still raps fucking terribley just because U dnt think its a rap song hes still rapping in it and just because u think its a rnb song or some said jazzy hahaha soz, the point is he raps terribley..so stop trying 2 cover what it is in blankets to make it sound better plz, some1 even said barry white did that type of music hahahahahaha, yes he spoke at the begging of a song but it wasnt rap (it didnt ryhme)....he should leave that stuff 2 snoop...thanks

Snoops dont rap like Prince, snoops be all talkin about his bitches and hoes and pimpin his ride on girls gone wild video. Prince just be talkin smoothe about a woman he tryin get wit, so its different.

To be honest with you, compared to Lil Wayne who I think is at the top of the Hip Hop game right now, Prince actually sounds pretty decent. I'd rather listen to Mr. Goodnight than Lollipop.

It's not rap, it's spoken word. I think it's a fun song.

No spoken word...that ryhmes...hence Rap thank you!

It's a Prince poem in spoken word form.

Yes also known as rap

You never give up do you?

You never give up do you?

Optimus just don't like rap thats all. But I think Prince sound so sweet and smoothe when he "raps". I think this is a chick song anyway, maybe guys just don't dig the smoothe talkin to the ladies type gig.

Actually liza u r right! however I do like sum rap, I like Face Down, Da,Da,Da, P Control, and Pope...however there faster!...so yeah ur right! ...its a bit 2 sweet 4 me especially if u look at what it is a rap song with no explicit words ...defintley 4 the ladies only
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