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Reply #60 posted 10/04/08 7:28pm

Jeffiner

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LOL. Yeah, that was Jerome. Thanks for the correction.

But Morris ordered her disposal right??


lol Yes! She WAS going on a bit.....just kidding wink
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Reply #61 posted 10/04/08 7:30pm

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chillichocaholic said:

nurseV said:




Mplsmike excited Mike's got the gif lol

Have any of u noticed how his hand strikes her one way, but she spins and falls in complete opposite to the swing? lol She actually should have fallen the other way



hmmm Never noticed that-Chilli u so observant lol
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Reply #62 posted 10/04/08 7:34pm

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chillichocaholic said:

nurseV said:




Mplsmike excited Mike's got the gif lol

Have any of u noticed how his hand strikes her one way, but she spins and falls in complete opposite to the swing? lol She actually should have fallen the other way

Yeah. And u know what else is weird with that scean? In the when doves cry montage...the movie shows a whole different take of that scean, it doesn't look like what was shown earlier in the film. I wonder how many dang takes they had to do....
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Reply #63 posted 10/04/08 7:39pm

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chillichocaholic said:

Okay..Im just going to air some family issues right here because Im going to try and explain something.
My father was very much like Prince's father in the movie, more so like Jake in Once Were Warriors, if u have ever seen that one. He drank a hell of a lot and thought nothing of smacking my mother around when it suited him.
Now I have two brothers, and despite the father we were raised with (until I was 14 and he left) both of them grew into fairly decent human beings. One brother in particular my father loved to run down verbally. This brother was the opposite to my father in every way and treated every girlfriend he had like she was a princess.....
Then one day he was with this woman (they had an on and off realtionship over the years) and they had an argument one night and he just snapped. In the middle of a verbal disagreement he grabbed her around the throat!!
It only lasted mere seconds, but he told me it scared the Hell out of him!! I think he apologised a million times and he never did it again because in that split second he saw himself as capeable of being just like our father.
Maybe thats what Prince was trying to get across in some way, that u can let ureself become just like that parent and all it takes in one second of lost control and bad judgement....or u can change the cycle, not let that control u and and become someone much better.

By the way, my brother has never laid a hand on another woman since


Wow,thanks for sharing something so personal. I'm glad to hear that your brother decided to stop the cycle. smile
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Reply #64 posted 10/04/08 7:42pm

Jeffiner

ToraToraDreams said:

chillichocaholic said:


Have any of u noticed how his hand strikes her one way, but she spins and falls in complete opposite to the swing? lol She actually should have fallen the other way

Yeah. And u know what else is weird with that scean? In the when doves cry montage...the movie shows a whole different take of that scean, it doesn't look like what was shown earlier in the film. I wonder how many dang takes they had to do....


That's strange, doesn't Albert Magnoli say they only did it in one shot? Or maybe that was the 'apologising' part, I know he said he'd liked to have improved that scene, but couldn't for some reason... I'm sure he'd liked to have made it more 'convincing'! - The 'apology' that is wink
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Reply #65 posted 10/04/08 8:00pm

Jeffiner

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I remember when I saw it at the premire....There was a gasp in the audience....Every little thing that P did on screen got an over the top type of reaction though. To me, then and every time I've seen the film, I've always thought P looked totally natural hitting Apollonia. It fit Prince doing that. He looked like he had that Napoleon complex thing going on cuz he's short and shit. He started to backhand her again later in the film and he looked hella natural there too. U could see it in the brutha's eyes...He looked like he's been there before.


I seem to be completely 'stuck' on this thread confused but...I was thinking about the 'crying' scene, where the director said that was completely natural, real tears, and he was drawing on real life experience? So, the fact that he looked really natural in the 'hitting' scene too...hmmmm... hmmm interesting!
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Reply #66 posted 10/04/08 8:03pm

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chillichocaholic said:

nurseV said:




Mplsmike excited Mike's got the gif lol

Have any of u noticed how his hand strikes her one way, but she spins and falls in complete opposite to the swing? lol She actually should have fallen the other way


Nah, actually he backhands her. So she went the right way. biggrin
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Reply #67 posted 10/04/08 9:05pm

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nurseV said:

chillichocaholic said:


Have any of u noticed how his hand strikes her one way, but she spins and falls in complete opposite to the swing? lol She actually should have fallen the other way



hmmm Never noticed that-Chilli u so observant lol


Look again....he either catches her one way or two...he swings his arm in both directions....anybody have an avid-bay??? The first cut is him facing the camera and leading with his right arm from left heading right...the next one is confusing because of the arm going back and forth....
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Reply #68 posted 10/04/08 9:43pm

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In the story he was pissed coz Apples joined Morris's group.

He was behaving how the father in the story treated his mom. Abuse is a continual cycle if not recognized and stopped.

Why would Apples "deserve" it??? It's disgusting for a man to abuse a woman.

Apples should of dumped his ass mad smile

I agree, but i dont think people would be as bothered if Apples hit Prince the other way around.
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Reply #69 posted 10/04/08 10:11pm

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I was shocked originally, but now it's funny. I think it's because she does a complete spin
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Reply #70 posted 10/04/08 10:53pm

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well she shouldnt have been backtalking Prince, ah I mean The Kid like that I think he had already told her he dont like the band
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Reply #71 posted 10/04/08 11:44pm

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Jeffiner said:

ToraToraDreams said:


Yeah. And u know what else is weird with that scean? In the when doves cry montage...the movie shows a whole different take of that scean, it doesn't look like what was shown earlier in the film. I wonder how many dang takes they had to do....


That's strange, doesn't Albert Magnoli say they only did it in one shot? Or maybe that was the 'apologising' part, I know he said he'd liked to have improved that scene, but couldn't for some reason... I'm sure he'd liked to have made it more 'convincing'! - The 'apology' that is wink
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It always looked like she landed differently in the montage shot. I'll check it out tommorow.
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Reply #72 posted 10/05/08 2:29am

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I have seen this movie a million times (literally folks lol) and Im telling u she spins the wrong way lol
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Reply #73 posted 10/05/08 2:32am

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chillichocaholic said:

Okay..Im just going to air some family issues right here because Im going to try and explain something.
My father was very much like Prince's father in the movie, more so like Jake in Once Were Warriors, if u have ever seen that one. He drank a hell of a lot and thought nothing of smacking my mother around when it suited him.
Now I have two brothers, and despite the father we were raised with (until I was 14 and he left) both of them grew into fairly decent human beings. One brother in particular my father loved to run down verbally. This brother was the opposite to my father in every way and treated every girlfriend he had like she was a princess.....
Then one day he was with this woman (they had an on and off realtionship over the years) and they had an argument one night and he just snapped. In the middle of a verbal disagreement he grabbed her around the throat!!
It only lasted mere seconds, but he told me it scared the Hell out of him!! I think he apologised a million times and he never did it again because in that split second he saw himself as capeable of being just like our father.
Maybe thats what Prince was trying to get across in some way, that u can let ureself become just like that parent and all it takes in one second of lost control and bad judgement....or u can change the cycle, not let that control u and and become someone much better.

By the way, my brother has never laid a hand on another woman since


Yes, thanks for sharing that Chilli, I think you're right in your assessment... thumbs up!
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Reply #74 posted 10/05/08 2:33am

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chillichocaholic said:

I have seen this movie a million times (literally folks lol) and Im telling u she spins the wrong way lol


lol That doesn't surprise me in the least!
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Reply #75 posted 10/05/08 2:35am

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Jeffiner said:

chillichocaholic said:

I have seen this movie a million times (literally folks lol) and Im telling u she spins the wrong way lol


lol That doesn't surprise me in the least!

Leaf me alone bawl



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Reply #76 posted 10/05/08 2:39am

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chillichocaholic said:

Jeffiner said:



lol That doesn't surprise me in the least!

Leaf me alone bawl



lol


No, I mean about her spinning the wrong way, silly! wink I've watched it oooh... probably 2 million times myself... I LOVE it! lol razz

It's also why I can't seem to get off this thread lol Help....!
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Reply #77 posted 10/05/08 2:42am

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Jeffiner said:

chillichocaholic said:


Leaf me alone bawl



lol


No, I mean about her spinning the wrong way, silly! wink I've watched it oooh... probably 2 million times myself... I LOVE it! lol razz

It's also why I can't seem to get off this thread lol Help....!
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Reply #78 posted 10/05/08 4:02am

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Nah, actually he backhands her. So she went the right way. biggrin

Thats what i thought lol
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Reply #79 posted 10/05/08 4:23am

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KidaDynamite said:

Nah, actually he backhands her. So she went the right way. biggrin

Thats what i thought lol

Im telling u it wrong hammer
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Reply #80 posted 10/05/08 4:36am

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I was thinking see, that's why Prince won't mess with sisters, cause if it was me I would have slapped that little cellar dweller back! nod
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Reply #81 posted 10/05/08 4:38am

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I was thinking see, that's why Prince won't mess with sisters, cause if it was me I would have slapped that little cellar dweller back! nod

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Reply #82 posted 10/05/08 4:39am

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chillichocaholic said:

mplsmike said:


Thats what i thought lol

Im telling u it wrong hammer

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Reply #83 posted 10/05/08 8:59am

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Obviously, "the Kid" had a problem. He lived in a house where he was distant from his parents. And anytime he actually had contact with them was if they were in a fight and he had to break them up, comfort one and confront the other.
That's a dysfunctional life to live and it's obvious that what he saw his father do, that's what he mimicked in his own personal life knowing no other way to deal with his frustrations with issues (not just women) in life.

Secondly, you can see that Kid knows that the behavior he copies from his father is wrong. You see it in the apology - although seemingly not sincere - to Appolonia with the "I'm joining Morris' Group" Statement. Than, you see it as he hesitates to hit here again, after already wrestling her to the ground, as an attempt to take away the flask she was guzzlin' from.

See, dude didn't have anyone to show him how to communicate, how to handle frustration and disappointment and fighting, getting angry and hostile is what he has to resort to, knowing no other way.

I suppose he found what he did was wrong after his father killed himself, realizing, that this is where he might end up if he didn't straighten up his act. In his own little way, as he kisses Appolonia as he walks through the backstage crowd, and gives a peck on the cheek to Wendy or Lisa (sorry, I'm not sure which one) during his performance of Purple Rain, he shows that he is sorry and understands that in all his dealings with people he needed to change.

Did Appolonia deserve to be smacked? Hell to the no!!! Instead of falling in the wrong direction of the impact of the swing, she should have Chung Li'd his little butt all through that Fun House lookin' basement he lived in.

But although she didn't deserve to get hit, she should have had respect for someone she decided to be in a relationship with to explain the whole situation including her decision. It was disrespectful of her to just plop on the Kid's lap some guitar that he didn't seem to like anyway. Then go and blurt out "I'm joining Morris' group." That was dumb. Like she tried to put the band aid on before the injury. - Backwards.... She needed some psychological help also. They deserved each other.

If there happens to be a part 2 to this move, I hope to see both The Kid and Appolonia married and draggin' their kids to some kind of therapy. You don't get involved with musicians if you're not strong enough to handle the pressures. Doesn't matter if they're big time or not. It takes a very big toll on a man or woman who is trying to make some money in this buisness. And the fact that they both wanted to "make it"....pshh..the rest of that story's and how that worked out gotta be told in Purple Rain Part 3...and perhaps part 4. LOL!
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Reply #84 posted 10/05/08 10:06pm

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mplsmike said:

KidaDynamite said:

Nah, actually he backhands her. So she went the right way. biggrin

Thats what i thought lol



Thank you I didn't want to be the one to say it.....
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Reply #85 posted 10/06/08 12:37am

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Madison88 said:

mplsmike said:


Thats what i thought lol



Thank you I didn't want to be the one to say it.....

I had ALREADY stated long before & much earlier in this thread that P had backhanded Apollonia.
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Reply #86 posted 10/06/08 2:05am

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Thank you I didn't want to be the one to say it.....

I had ALREADY stated long before & much earlier in this thread that P had backhanded Apollonia.

I don't care hmph! u are ALL WRONG!!!


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Reply #87 posted 10/06/08 7:18am

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Reply #88 posted 10/06/08 7:33am

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Please ... Apples could've slapped him back with just one of her tig ole bitties - and it would have been OVER for him.
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Reply #89 posted 10/06/08 8:25am

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Please ... Apples could've slapped him back with just one of her tig ole bitties - and it would have been OVER for him.



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