Nvncible1 said:

And this would be different from rape..HOW?????

This song really creeps me out. I listened to it over and over and it still creeps me out. Its that part toward the end where it sounds like the woman is being raped..i dunno i just can't listen to this song.

Does anyone else know what I mean?

I have never heard rape in that song. Ever.

Genesia said:

I can admit that the question is open but that it never crossed your mind is a bit strange.

DesireeNevermind said:

Rape isn't consensual.

Genesia said:

Yeah duh, but I wouldn't think its consentual to take your aggression out on someone either. For the purposes of this song, there is neither rape nor consent taking place. I like the song but it does sound freaky creepy and I can see why some ppl would imagine rape. Others I guess would imagine just a rough romp in the cab with no money for the poor driver. Just a bruised

Stirring your noodle ...

Genesia said:

Yeah duh, but I wouldn't think its consentual to take your aggression out on someone either. For the purposes of this song, there is neither rape nor consent taking place. I like the song but it does sound freaky creepy and I can see why some ppl would imagine rape. Others I guess would imagine just a rough romp in the cab with no money for the poor driver. Just a bruised

Stirring your noodle ...

the Minneapolis sound
loves it!

I usually skip the
raunchy part
(same with "Do Me, Baby")

depends on my surroundings

At which point in the song do you think he came? Not a pervy question but a serious one. I think he has a multiple (unheard of in men surely?) that starts at the point where he says "4 U have 2 live". Every blow after that seems to be a new ejaculation or at least a thrust to send it home.

DesireeNevermind said:

You never done it with someone where you don't care what they feel just what you can get out of it? Hell, sometimes me and annie are like that!

Just because Prince has the spoken part doesn't mean that the cab driver (and why do we assume that's who is being fucked when we have no positive evidence of it?) isn't getting what she wants from it? For all we know the guy in the song could be a gigolo and the words we hear are his inner monologue. He may be the 'used' one in this song.

Good topic this by the way. Unusual for the Org.
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LizaWoman08 said:

Liza I thought I told you that in another thread LMAO. I still dig it tho. Bet a lot a folks would let Princey do that to them

iloveannie said:

Hairy lightbulb? In my day we were happy with a few bin liners, selotape and a tub of baby oil. Maybe some clingfilm for fun.

Anybody else know what a Mississippi Mud Pocket is by the way?

you and gene with your angry sex. LOL, nope can't say I've had the um...pleasure? BTW you are overanalyzing that song 2 much for me, why don't you just throw in a couple angels, some lemon juice and a hairy light bulb. DAMMIT! now U got me overthinking this shit.

DesireeNevermind said:

No des don't remember that was that recent?. I like the groove of the song just really got a bad connotation from the sex part...I'm sure thats not what he was doing (raping) but u could interpret it that way.

I love that song!

where did this "RAPE" stuff come from?

RAPE does not sound like THAT in my opinion.

maybe there would be a "STOP!" or "GET OFF!" scream, and some slaps or something.

they was just getting it mayne, she was moaning and screaming from pleasure. thats how they sound in porn (faking it but u know how that goes)

He was just taking his aggression out on her- but it soudned like she was ignoring it.

seriously get off that rape tip. ITS NOT.

where did this "RAPE" stuff come from?

RAPE does not sound like THAT in my opinion.

maybe there would be a "STOP!" or "GET OFF!" scream, and some slaps or something.

they was just getting it mayne, she was moaning and screaming from pleasure. thats how they sound in porn (faking it but u know how that goes)

He was just taking his aggression out on her- but it soudned like she was ignoring it.

seriously get off that rape tip. ITS NOT.

I love that song!

Like the 1999 album cover thread, (which probably gave u the idea to do this thread) this too has been discussed on here. Many times actually. As far as the song goes, to me, it's one of my all time favorite songs by Prince. But none of the reasons why I've always dug this song has jack to do with the little interplay between Prince and J.J. But dealing with that since this is what this thread is all about; This song, like 95% of all of the songs on this album is about dominating, loneliness, sex, wanting to please and to be pleased, anger. Many times on this album, all of those elements can be found ALL in one song. Prince is many things, but one thing he has never been is stupid. Prince is though very savvy and he's a master at anything that has a double meaning. That has been littered all over his earlier work. Be it religion, sex, whatever. That said, from the performance of P's and Jill's interlude on LCD, Prince is fully aware of the connotation that this gives off. Prince is not naive. Far from it. He's VERY knowing in anything that he does. I believe P walked that fine line in producing a sound that could border rough sex and rape. To listen to Jill, and only Jill, she sounds like she's really into the fucking. She sounds like the sex she's having is making her feel good. Like she's on her way to having an orgasm. She does NOT sound like a woman who is NOT enjoying the sex. She does NOT sound like a woman who is being violated against her will. Prince on the other hand, he does sound like just from some of his tone, that it COULD be just aggression he's taking out on her. The "This is for and that is for" represents that. It's the TONE that comes from Prince that could evoke he's forcing himself onto to Jill. It could be seen by some as rape and then by others, it's not. And P knew that. Again, it's that duality. The way Jill sounds supports that it's just good fucking. The way P sounds like it could be aggression or aggression that went over the line. It's all about perception. And that differs from person to person. It's not like P hasn't ever mentioned rape or provoked rape before. Extra Loveable. BUT again, that song was written for Vanity 6 to perform. So it's not a stretch with all of the gender switching and role reversal that P used to do during the time of this album that it was intended for Vanity to say "I could be very cruel. Don't make me rape u". Just a scenerio. Again, P is very knowing in the things he does. Most of it is designed to where it CAN go either way. That's intentional.
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