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Ellie said: Can't it be both? Prince may be prolific, more creative and more respected, but it's MJ I hear on the radio every day, constantly re-releasing shit compilations and actually charting highly with them, re-introducing his music to new generations every few years despite being less productive than dead people.
----- It can be both but where do you live where you are hearing Mike's music constantly and I see you are forgeting that PR was back on the charts in 04 and well over a million people went out to see P on his last big tour. You can't turn on the radio without hearing P's influence on at least a dozen bands today. | |
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laurarichardson said: Ellie said: Can't it be both? Prince may be prolific, more creative and more respected, but it's MJ I hear on the radio every day, constantly re-releasing shit compilations and actually charting highly with them, re-introducing his music to new generations every few years despite being less productive than dead people.
----- It can be both but where do you live where you are hearing Mike's music constantly and I see you are forgeting that PR was back on the charts in 04 and well over a million people went out to see P on his last big tour. You can't turn on the radio without hearing P's influence on at least a dozen bands today. Same can be said for MJ. Are we forgetting the Thriller 25 reissue that went number one around the world? **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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khemseraph said: curioso said: Is this just an attempt for a Michael Jackson bashing? Don't ask to compare the two on a Prince site.
thats silly.its not about bashing mj its about comparing the to most important artists of the past 30 years..because u can only compare those two to each other.it's a legit question.what i find ironic is that this is a Prince board and the people on here seem to hate Prince.go fig They're both going to stand the test of time so there's really noting to compare. | |
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MajesticOne89 said: khemseraph said: thats silly.its not about bashing mj its about comparing the to most important artists of the past 30 years..because u can only compare those two to each other.it's a legit question.what i find ironic is that this is a Prince board and the people on here seem to hate Prince.go fig They're both going to stand the test of time so there's really noting to compare. Exactly. There's no need to debate this. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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daPrettyman said: laurarichardson said: ----- It can be both but where do you live where you are hearing Mike's music constantly and I see you are forgeting that PR was back on the charts in 04 and well over a million people went out to see P on his last big tour. You can't turn on the radio without hearing P's influence on at least a dozen bands today. Same can be said for MJ. Are we forgetting the Thriller 25 reissue that went number one around the world? ----- Yes, it went number one around the world because not in the US.You do not hear Mike music much even on the oldies formats. He has had an influence on videos and dancing but not so much music wise but his accompolishments are great and of course they are going to stand the test of time. | |
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rusty1 said: michael jackson between 1972 and 1983 had a lot of solid music with the jackson's.. while prince had groundbreaking albums and still looks good and going on and on
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The one who stays in the limelight. And not just doing music. Being seen and talked about is a huge factor. That is something we'll have 2 wait and see. But so far, M.J. (and I hate 2 say this but...) is leading the points in that. | |
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yxl1 said: You're all deluded. Its going to be MJ who stands the test of time. Sure, Prince is the more talented musican, but MJ captured the publics imagination on a far greater scale than Prince ever did (could?)
Even the controvery with the kids wont dent his long term public standing. (Although his career has taken a nosedive in recent years, his body of work before the kid fliddling case is what I'm refering to) Its over 20 years since Purple Rain and Thriller - which one are you more likley to hear on the radio/MusicTV? Its just the way our society is. People would rather worship the shallow and superficial than real talent and hard graft. Sad but true. [Edited 9/25/08 6:13am] I rarely hear anything from Thriller on Radio, I hear Lets Go Crazy, Baby I'm A Star, I Would Die For U, Purple Rain all the time... | |
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Both,they are very important to the music history. | |
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purplecam said: MajesticOne89 said: They're both going to stand the test of time so there's really noting to compare. Exactly. There's no need to debate this. comparing is not debating | |
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Both will historically be viewed as important figures.
Both's music will stand the test of time. However, as a songwriter, Prince will be in a league all his own. We have to remember, Prince doesn't just pick from a list of 50 or 100 songs from other songwriters to create his music. He writes it. As a composer, Prince will probably have very few peers. | |
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laurarichardson said: daPrettyman said: Same can be said for MJ. Are we forgetting the Thriller 25 reissue that went number one around the world? ----- Yes, it went number one around the world because not in the US.You do not hear Mike music much even on the oldies formats. He has had an influence on videos and dancing but not so much music wise but his accompolishments are great and of course they are going to stand the test of time. I don't know where you live, but here in the states, Mike's music is ALL OVER oldies and adult formats. Even on satellite radio. The standards that you hear ALL OF THE TIME are: I Want You Back I'll Be There Never Can Say Goodbye Rock With You Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough Working Day and Night Billie Jean Lady In My Life The Girl Is Mine Wanna Be Starting Something The Way You Make Me Feel Shake Your Body Down Remember The Time I Just Can't Stop Loving You (especially on the love song formats and the soft rock formats) The only reason why Thriller 25 didn't debut on the US charts is because Billboard wouldn't classify it as a new release (even though it had new songs). They counted it as a catalog release. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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buttcheeks said: yxl1 said: You're all deluded. Its going to be MJ who stands the test of time. Sure, Prince is the more talented musican, but MJ captured the publics imagination on a far greater scale than Prince ever did (could?)
Even the controvery with the kids wont dent his long term public standing. (Although his career has taken a nosedive in recent years, his body of work before the kid fliddling case is what I'm refering to) Its over 20 years since Purple Rain and Thriller - which one are you more likley to hear on the radio/MusicTV? Its just the way our society is. People would rather worship the shallow and superficial than real talent and hard graft. Sad but true. [Edited 9/25/08 6:13am] I hear Billie Jean, Wanna Be Starting Something and Lady In My Life on 80s and Urban AC formats all of the time. As for Prince, I only hear WDC, IWD4U, Kiss, UGTL, and IWBYL on a regular basis. XM's The Groove tends to play Let's Work, Controversy, Uptown, Sexy Dancer, Housequake and Erotic City on a regular basis. The other formats, only play the PR stuff along with Kiss. I rarely hear anything from Thriller on Radio, I hear Lets Go Crazy, Baby I'm A Star, I Would Die For U, Purple Rain all the time... **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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ltd022002 said: The one who stays in the limelight. And not just doing music. Being seen and talked about is a huge factor. That is something we'll have 2 wait and see. But so far, M.J. (and I hate 2 say this but...) is leading the points in that.
----- Once again where do you live.Because you do not see or hear anyone talking about Mike or his music. Dude is like a ghost. P is still touring and still putting out projects. He has a profile and Mike has none in the industry right now. | |
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daPrettyman said: laurarichardson said: ----- Yes, it went number one around the world because not in the US.You do not hear Mike music much even on the oldies formats. He has had an influence on videos and dancing but not so much music wise but his accompolishments are great and of course they are going to stand the test of time. I don't know where you live, but here in the states, Mike's music is ALL OVER oldies and adult formats. Even on satellite radio. The standards that you hear ALL OF THE TIME are: I Want You Back I'll Be There Never Can Say Goodbye Rock With You Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough Working Day and Night Billie Jean Lady In My Life The Girl Is Mine Wanna Be Starting Something The Way You Make Me Feel Shake Your Body Down Remember The Time I Just Can't Stop Loving You (especially on the love song formats and the soft rock formats) The only reason why Thriller 25 didn't debut on the US charts is because Billboard wouldn't classify it as a new release (even though it had new songs). They counted it as a catalog release. ----- I live in the Washington D.C area a hugh area for urban formats and you do not hear a lot of MJ. You hear more J5 than Thriller material. People are mad for P in the D.C. area and he gets play for his new stuff on the urban AC format. | |
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laurarichardson said: daPrettyman said: I don't know where you live, but here in the states, Mike's music is ALL OVER oldies and adult formats. Even on satellite radio. The standards that you hear ALL OF THE TIME are: I Want You Back I'll Be There Never Can Say Goodbye Rock With You Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough Working Day and Night Billie Jean Lady In My Life The Girl Is Mine Wanna Be Starting Something The Way You Make Me Feel Shake Your Body Down Remember The Time I Just Can't Stop Loving You (especially on the love song formats and the soft rock formats) The only reason why Thriller 25 didn't debut on the US charts is because Billboard wouldn't classify it as a new release (even though it had new songs). They counted it as a catalog release. ----- I live in the Washington D.C area a hugh area for urban formats and you do not hear a lot of MJ. You hear more J5 than Thriller material. People are mad for P in the D.C. area and he gets play for his new stuff on the urban AC format. Yeah. Since he started getting distribution deals with Universal and Sony, he started getting LOTS of play on Urban AC stations. Especially with songs like "Call My Name" and "Future Baby Mama". They won't hardly touch songs like "Musicology" or "Black Sweat". I listen to a lot of stations from across the country. WHUR is one of my favorites. When you listen to urban stations in different parts of the country, you can really tell the difference in the programming. On the West coast, they play LOTS of MJ. They play P's stuff, too, but it's mostly WDC/PR stuff. When you listen to stations in the NYC area, they show love to both, but seem to lead more toward MJ's way. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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They have both done their fair share for musical history and I feel that it is such a shame that MJ's contributions will be tarnished by his recent troubles. They both are great. | |
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Ellie said: Can't it be both? Prince may be prolific, more creative and more respected, but it's MJ I hear on the radio every day, constantly re-releasing shit compilations and actually charting highly with them, re-introducing his music to new generations every few years despite being less productive than dead people.
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Let's be clear. Michael Jackson is the Biggest Star of our time. His impact on the music industry will be felt for years to come. Prince will be remembered as a Genius of an Artist. But when kids are in school in year 2050 & they discuss the music of the 80's, you can be sure MIchael Jackson will have a chapter of his own.
This is not saying that Michael's music is better than Prince. It's just that Michael Musically touched the young, old, and races from all over the world. His music was just more accessible to people.Prince had his core fanbase. Because it was a bit too dangerous for some people. But Michael wanted his music for everybody. When I was young, my Mom would buy me Michael Jackson albums. Because she Loved him. She slept outside the arena to buy me tickets to the Bad Tour (we got front row seats!). That's the power MJ had. Parents & kids could both listen to his Albums together! That's not a common thing. You really have to think about that! I don't care who you are & where you're from. But if you go to a party & throw on Don't Stop Til You Get Enough or any other Classic MJ dance joint...It's On! Michael just had that Magic that brought people together. So for This his Music will be talked about more than Prince when we're all dead & gone. | |
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Bishop31 said: Let's be clear. Michael Jackson is the Biggest Star of our time. His impact on the music industry will be felt for years to come. Prince will be remembered as a Genius of an Artist. But when kids are in school in year 2050 & they discuss the music of the 80's, you can be sure MIchael Jackson will have a chapter of his own.
This is not saying that Michael's music is better than Prince. It's just that Michael Musically touched the young, old, and races from all over the world. His music was just more accessible to people.Prince had his core fanbase. Because it was a bit too dangerous for some people. But Michael wanted his music for everybody. When I was young, my Mom would buy me Michael Jackson albums. Because she Loved him. She slept outside the arena to buy me tickets to the Bad Tour (we got front row seats!). That's the power MJ had. Parents & kids could both listen to his Albums together! That's not a common thing. You really have to think about that! I don't care who you are & where you're from. But if you go to a party & throw on Don't Stop Til You Get Enough or any other Classic MJ dance joint...It's On! Michael just had that Magic that brought people together. So for This his Music will be talked about more than Prince when we're all dead & gone. I agree with your thoughts, but if anything, MJ will be remembered in the 80s for breaking barriers and setting new standards for the music industry. MJ redefined the meaning of "pop" music and taught everyone how a music video should be made. Prince, on the other hand, will be remembered for his artistry and innovation. Especially when it comes to how current music is marketed and distributed as well as how to do independent music BIG. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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I agree with your thoughts, but if anything, MJ will be remembered in the 80s for breaking barriers and setting new standards for the music industry. MJ redefined the meaning of "pop" music and taught everyone how a music video should be made.
I still think MJ makes some of the best videos ever. You can tell he puts a lot into his videos | |
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Bishop31 said: Let's be clear. Michael Jackson is the Biggest Star of our time. His impact on the music industry will be felt for years to come. Prince will be remembered as a Genius of an Artist. But when kids are in school in year 2050 & they discuss the music of the 80's, you can be sure MIchael Jackson will have a chapter of his own.
This is not saying that Michael's music is better than Prince. It's just that Michael Musically touched the young, old, and races from all over the world. His music was just more accessible to people.Prince had his core fanbase. Because it was a bit too dangerous for some people. But Michael wanted his music for everybody. When I was young, my Mom would buy me Michael Jackson albums. Because she Loved him. She slept outside the arena to buy me tickets to the Bad Tour (we got front row seats!). That's the power MJ had. Parents & kids could both listen to his Albums together! That's not a common thing. You really have to think about that! I don't care who you are & where you're from. But if you go to a party & throw on Don't Stop Til You Get Enough or any other Classic MJ dance joint...It's On! Michael just had that Magic that brought people together. So for This his Music will be talked about more than Prince when we're all dead & gone. I beg to differ. Kids today aren't discussing the music of the 80s. Why? Because they were born after the 80s. If you grew up in the 80s, which would so not make you a kid, then yeah you're gonna remember MJ and appreciate his contribution to the music industry particulary via video. I credit much of his musical success to berry gordy and quincey jones. But Prince actually made kids back then want to learn to play instruments and write songs and start bands, which is so much more key to what music is versus a nice dance video. I think Prince's music will stand the test of time b/c not only is there so much to pick from and it varies in style but he's still keeping his name out there. Where's MJ? Don't know N Don't care. Sadly, MJ to0 much the butt of jokes for people to focus on the music. | |
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DesireeNevermind said: Bishop31 said: Let's be clear. Michael Jackson is the Biggest Star of our time. His impact on the music industry will be felt for years to come. Prince will be remembered as a Genius of an Artist. But when kids are in school in year 2050 & they discuss the music of the 80's, you can be sure MIchael Jackson will have a chapter of his own.
This is not saying that Michael's music is better than Prince. It's just that Michael Musically touched the young, old, and races from all over the world. His music was just more accessible to people.Prince had his core fanbase. Because it was a bit too dangerous for some people. But Michael wanted his music for everybody. When I was young, my Mom would buy me Michael Jackson albums. Because she Loved him. She slept outside the arena to buy me tickets to the Bad Tour (we got front row seats!). That's the power MJ had. Parents & kids could both listen to his Albums together! That's not a common thing. You really have to think about that! I don't care who you are & where you're from. But if you go to a party & throw on Don't Stop Til You Get Enough or any other Classic MJ dance joint...It's On! Michael just had that Magic that brought people together. So for This his Music will be talked about more than Prince when we're all dead & gone. I beg to differ. Kids today aren't discussing the music of the 80s. Why? Because they were born after the 80s. If you grew up in the 80s, which would so not make you a kid, then yeah you're gonna remember MJ and appreciate his contribution to the music industry particulary via video. I credit much of his musical success to berry gordy and quincey jones. But Prince actually made kids back then want to learn to play instruments and write songs and start bands, which is so much more key to what music is versus a nice dance video. I think Prince's music will stand the test of time b/c not only is there so much to pick from and it varies in style but he's still keeping his name out there. Where's MJ? Don't know N Don't care. Sadly, MJ to0 much the butt of jokes for people to focus on the music. ----- "I think Prince's music will stand the test of time b/c not only is there so much to pick from and it varies in style but he's still keeping his name out there. Where's MJ? Don't know N Don't care. Sadly, MJ to0 much the butt of jokes for people to focus on the music." Co-Sign. Mike's fans are delusional. Mike has no presence in the media right now and has not had new material out since 2001. At least Prince continues to tour and produce music. He is the only African-American artist setting boxoffice records over the last few years. No one is going to forget about him anytime soon. | |
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DesireeNevermind said: curioso said: Is this just an attempt for a Michael Jackson bashing? Don't ask to compare the two on a Prince site.
Sure looks like it to me.... I think unfortunately , MJ will be remembered more for his antics/personal choices/troubled childhood and that one album Thriller. Prince gonna be remembered as this prolific barrier-crossing musical genius. Of course he doesn't appear to age that much so maybe he will outlive us all and answer this very question. Right now I think MJ is more remembered for the troubled childhoods he alledgedly caused than for his own or for his music. No doubt there are a lot of highlights in his musical career (although one can argue in Quincy Jones'...) . I really think MJ and Prince shouldn't be compared, They are both legends in their own right, just not in the same branch of entertainment. If you really want to compare Mj to some-one, try Madonna..... | |
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DesireeNevermind said: Bishop31 said: Let's be clear. Michael Jackson is the Biggest Star of our time. His impact on the music industry will be felt for years to come. Prince will be remembered as a Genius of an Artist. But when kids are in school in year 2050 & they discuss the music of the 80's, you can be sure MIchael Jackson will have a chapter of his own.
This is not saying that Michael's music is better than Prince. It's just that Michael Musically touched the young, old, and races from all over the world. His music was just more accessible to people.Prince had his core fanbase. Because it was a bit too dangerous for some people. But Michael wanted his music for everybody. When I was young, my Mom would buy me Michael Jackson albums. Because she Loved him. She slept outside the arena to buy me tickets to the Bad Tour (we got front row seats!). That's the power MJ had. Parents & kids could both listen to his Albums together! That's not a common thing. You really have to think about that! I don't care who you are & where you're from. But if you go to a party & throw on Don't Stop Til You Get Enough or any other Classic MJ dance joint...It's On! Michael just had that Magic that brought people together. So for This his Music will be talked about more than Prince when we're all dead & gone. I beg to differ. Kids today aren't discussing the music of the 80s. Why? Because they were born after the 80s. If you grew up in the 80s, which would so not make you a kid, then yeah you're gonna remember MJ and appreciate his contribution to the music industry particulary via video. I credit much of his musical success to berry gordy and quincey jones. But Prince actually made kids back then want to learn to play instruments and write songs and start bands, which is so much more key to what music is versus a nice dance video. I think Prince's music will stand the test of time b/c not only is there so much to pick from and it varies in style but he's still keeping his name out there. Where's MJ? Don't know N Don't care. Sadly, MJ to0 much the butt of jokes for people to focus on the music. Even though Kids may not discus the music of the 80's, the average Kid I know knows Mj and not Prince. Did u see that MTV show "America's Best Dance Crew" last season they dedicated a whole show to MJ? That speaks volumes of his influence of todays young artists. I am around a lot of Kids & sadly they do not know what or who a Prince is. But when MJ is brought up they know instantly who I'm talking about. That's the truth. | |
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laurarichardson said: DesireeNevermind said: I beg to differ. Kids today aren't discussing the music of the 80s. Why? Because they were born after the 80s. If you grew up in the 80s, which would so not make you a kid, then yeah you're gonna remember MJ and appreciate his contribution to the music industry particulary via video. I credit much of his musical success to berry gordy and quincey jones. But Prince actually made kids back then want to learn to play instruments and write songs and start bands, which is so much more key to what music is versus a nice dance video. I think Prince's music will stand the test of time b/c not only is there so much to pick from and it varies in style but he's still keeping his name out there. Where's MJ? Don't know N Don't care. Sadly, MJ to0 much the butt of jokes for people to focus on the music. ----- "I think Prince's music will stand the test of time b/c not only is there so much to pick from and it varies in style but he's still keeping his name out there. Where's MJ? Don't know N Don't care. Sadly, MJ to0 much the butt of jokes for people to focus on the music." Co-Sign. Mike's fans are delusional. Mike has no presence in the media right now and has not had new material out since 2001. At least Prince continues to tour and produce music. He is the only African-American artist setting boxoffice records over the last few years. No one is going to forget about him anytime soon. MJ fan's delusional? Prince setting records means nothing. MJ has set more records than Prince ever has & will in his career . No one will forget about either one of these guys anytime soon. Especially MJ. These young Artists who are "borrowing" from MJ (Ne Yo, Usher, Chris Brown) won't allow it. [Edited 9/29/08 5:39am] | |
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Bishop31 said: laurarichardson said: ----- "I think Prince's music will stand the test of time b/c not only is there so much to pick from and it varies in style but he's still keeping his name out there. Where's MJ? Don't know N Don't care. Sadly, MJ to0 much the butt of jokes for people to focus on the music." Co-Sign. Mike's fans are delusional. Mike has no presence in the media right now and has not had new material out since 2001. At least Prince continues to tour and produce music. He is the only African-American artist setting boxoffice records over the last few years. No one is going to forget about him anytime soon. MJ fan's delusional? Prince setting records means nothing. MJ has set more records than Prince ever has & will in his career . No one will forget about either one of these guys anytime soon. Especially MJ. These young Artists who are "borrowing" from MJ (Ne Yo, Usher, Chris Brown) won't allow it. I wouldn't take that worn out and tired comment by a Prince rimmer like laura seriously if I were you. The music world speaks for itself and MJ is clearly an influence on many people working within it. It's only the deluded Prince fans who can't see that. | |
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It's just that Michael Musically touched the young, old, and races from all over the world.
Allegedly. Seriously, I think Prince and MJ are The Stones and The Beatles. They'll both be remembered for different reasons. It's not as if the history books won't have room for both of them. As far as MJ goes...sure, he has tarnished his own legacy. However, Elvis tarnished his and all the fat, drugged out, jumpsuit parodies haven't erased Elvis' importance. Same thing with MJ. As the years go on, his music and the dancing will be remembered more than the face and the children. "New Power slide...." | |
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Why the heck are MJ fans joining a Prince fansite anyway?
You got way too much time on your hands and water on your brain if you're an MJ fan and you join this site just to diss Prince or compare him to MJ. That's kinda maniacal IMO. | |
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