I didn't ask this....but I'll post it and come what may

Does Prince Trust God Enough Not To Be Led By ANyone Except The Bible And His Own Heart?
Discuss.....nicely please
[Edited 9/20/08 2:28am]

Yes, he wrote:

"Who do ya trust if U can't trust God?
Who can U trust - who can ya?
Who do ya trust if U can't trust God?
Who can U trust - who can ya?

Nobody."

He may have written that true enough, but those are song lyrics. Do u feel thats what he seriously follows?

Prince trusts his various, convenient, concepts of God as they morph in his mind throughout the ever changing periods in his life.

chillichocaholic said:

Do you expect me to answer a serious question?

G0d said:

I should have know better shouldn't I? I dont think ure capeable

This thread is depressing!

Imago said:

Gee thanks

Imago said:

Here try some of this:

Yes, God and his own mind. If he didn't he would have been in trouble, washed up or dead a long time ago.

On the disappointing side of trusting those that end up hurting you...We come to realize that we have to trust the way that God moves amongst us...through other people...I have trust issues although I trust that if I keep my heart open, I am trusting that even if I am hurt, there will be a Godly lesson in the experience for the people involved.

Imago said:

.....that damn avatar pic is depressing..it reminds me of the child's play at the very end when chucky got his ass torched!

chillichocaholic said:

obviously not

union119 said:

Are u absolutely sure about that??


In other words please elaborate

Ya'll ready for the truth?

Prince does not trust in God at all. In addition to Prince, there are many people who claim to "trust" in "God" without having any idea in what that truly means.

People think that if they believe in God that this counts as trusting him. It's not the same.

Trust is putting complete faith in who He is, what He says and what He's done.
That is far from just the basic belief that he exists. Cuz as my bible says, even the devil knows there is a god and trembles at that fact.

Again, many people believe that if they have a basic belief in God, without putting their complete faith in Him and what He's done for us, than our belief is counted as nothing. Religion will not pass with God for any of us on that great day that Prince sung about in 1999. See, Prince forgot to mention in the song that along with judgment day, come JUDGMENT and that ALL will stand before God and His Son, the Righteous Judge. But what will he say to you, Prince or I? Will he say, "Well done thou good and FAITHFUL servant, enter into the Joy of the Lord!" or will you hear him say "Depart from me, I knew you not..."

Basic belief or religion will not get Prince or any of us anywhere. Not in this life or the one to come.

You can agree or disagree. I'm just tired of hearing about Prince and his religion and how wonderful everyone thinks it is that he's got some. I'm not saying I hate him for it. But I've got to make it clear that he's on the wrong path.

Love the man, but he's on the wrong path and as successful as he is now, religion isn't gonna get him anywhere after he takes his last breath.

Look, I'm just tellin' it like it is.

masina79 said:

so Prince's 'spirituality' is a scam?

he believes and preaches (pays lip-service to) the Word of GOD...

but behind closed doors he lives the 7 deadly sins?

union119 said:

Really, its that the truth of what Prince does though? Or is that her perception of what the truth might be?

chillichocaholic said:

The bible is a guide.....(Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth) a person has to know their own truth.

union119 said:

Well in relation to what I said, and what you quoted, I wouldn't say Prince's spirituality is a "scam". I can't and don't have the right to judge his sincere belief in God. My point is (and I may be repeating myself) that religion (pleasing God with good works and how "spiritual" you look or sound) is not gonna fly with God on judgment day. All he'll want to know is what you did with His Son (Jesus) who he sent as a sacrifice for our sins. Did you put your faith in HIM, and His sacrifice, submitting your life to Him.

You asked if I'm saying that Prince just pays lip service to God.
Perhaps you think that I was saying Prince is being a hypocrite. That is absolutely not what I believe. I believe that Prince does have a sincere belief in some higher power and calls this higher power God, and tries his best to live a life that would fall in line with that belief according to it's principles. Sometimes many people's spirituality are based on the wrong principles. So, a person ends up wasting their time trying to live a life trying to please God AND man with what they think would make them look good, righteous etc.

Jesus even said that " they honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me." Meaning that many people know ABOUT or believe in Him. But they don't KNOW Him and His Truth.

He also said that "THIS is eternal life, that they know YOU the father and Jesus Christ whom you have sent."

I know that this is a Prince forum and this question was directed toward Prince and his beliefs but I don't want to seem like I'm picking on him as though I'm trying to make everyone hate him for what he believes.

It's not just about Prince. It's you, me and Prince. We ALL have to stand before God on judgment day. And our own personal spiritual scam is not gonna faze God. He knows our hearts, he sees our every move, our every thought, and knows whether we trust Him or not. But our trust in Him has to be according to the truth of His word. He knows whether or not we're offering him lip service or not. He knows,more importantly whether we are trusting in our own righteousness and spirituality to please Him. Jesus is our righteousness. He is the one who makes us right with God.

So, to answer the question again, there is a difference between belief and trust. Prince does not "trust" God. He "believes" in God. There is a difference. That being the case, Prince is also "led by his own heart". Just as anyone else who does not trust (put their complete faith) in God. As far as I'm concerned, Prince is his own God. If you want to know why I said this, ask me in an orgnote. I don't want to start a debate. I just wanted to answer the question as best I can.



"You say you have faith, for you believe that there is one God. Good for you! Even the demons believe this, and they tremble in terror....And so it happened just as the Scriptures say: Abraham believed God, and God counted him as righteous because of his faith. He was even called the friend of God."
James 2:19, 23

masina79 said:

I completely agree with you here. I love Prince and everything, but I think he is being led astray. What does it profit anyone to gain the whole world but loose their soul? I'm not trying to offend anyone on here but our lives here are short and eternity is forever...I don't think he really knows "God", he knows about God from what he has read, and there is a big difference. You can tell a tree by the fruit it bares. I'm not saying I know what is truely in this man's heart but actions speak louder than words.

So, to answer the question again, there is a difference between belief and trust. Prince does not "trust" God. He "believes" in God. There is a difference. That being the case, Prince is also "led by his own heart". Just as anyone else who does not trust (put their complete faith) in God. As far as I'm concerned, Prince is his own God. If you want to know why I said this, ask me in an orgnote. I don't want to start a debate. I just wanted to answer the question as best I can.


I agree with you here as well. I don't want to start a debate either...and I know God is a forgiving and loving God...but I wonder if Prince has read the part in the bible where it says not to make an image or a symbol representing anything on, above, or below earth in order to worship it? I mean, i wonder since he became a Jehovah's witness if he read that verse and what he thinks about his name being a symbol? I'm just curious about that

masina79 said:

I don't think this is for you or anyone else here that doesn't know him to say.

LizaWoman08 said:

You know what, I give Prince credit in that area. I don't know about all the time, but whenever I saw him speaking to someone (after his conversion) and they started "worshiping" him by saying, "you're so amazing!" "I love you" (not actual quotes) he would make sure that they would stop doing that. I always thought the reason for his not taking pics with fans was cuz he didn't want to be "worshiped". But, what I meant by his being his own God is cuz anyone who has not let God have full control over their life is essentially their own God, "being led by their own heart".

union119 said:

That's creepy! I was just going to post those exact words.

myfavorite said:

I agree

LizaWoman08 said:

oh yeah, yeah. they really truly do.

union119 said:

I mean I wonder what his Jehovah's witness friends thought about his superbowl incident? I mean I don't really think that is accepted for his religion. I don't know if he claims to be a Christian or not, but writing songs like "Jack U Off" isn't really christian like. Thats what really makes me question if he really practices what he believes or not.

LizaWoman08 said:

I'm not expecting a reply to this statement. I don't really want any...
I just want to make it clear that a Jehovah's Witness and a Christian are two different people with two very different beliefs.
[Edited 9/23/08 20:41pm]

masina79 said:

Jehovah Witnesses are Christians.

LizaWoman08 said:

People who consider themselves Christian do a lot of things including cursing, having premarital sex, abortions, all kinds of stuff. That is personal between them and God. It is not for any of us to discern whether P called himself a Christian over 25 years ago when he wrote Jack U Off. you may want to consider that he might not have.