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Thread started 11/16/02 4:32pm

chickengrease

Grace - The Time B-Side

Anybody got a link to this song?
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Reply #1 posted 11/16/02 5:43pm

TRON

It's on Kazaa.
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Reply #2 posted 11/16/02 11:22pm

NWF

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As coincidence would have it, I had just downloaded this song on Kazaa. It's pretty funny. But the backing music is basically "777-9311". It was still cool, though.
NEW WAVE FOREVER: SLAVE TO THE WAVE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE.
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Reply #3 posted 11/16/02 11:30pm

jazzy328is

NWF said:

As coincidence would have it, I had just downloaded this song on Kazaa. It's pretty funny. But the backing music is basically "777-9311". It was still cool, though.


That is the Point, 777 was the hit, so morris added humor to it on the B-Side. I love this.
How you gonna get my back when you fronting.
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Reply #4 posted 11/17/02 11:34am

giotto

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jazzy328is said:

NWF said:

As coincidence would have it, I had just downloaded this song on Kazaa. It's pretty funny. But the backing music is basically "777-9311". It was still cool, though.


That is the Point, 777 was the hit, so morris added humor to it on the B-Side. I love this.


The vocal on this is actually by Prince, not by Morris...


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Reply #5 posted 11/17/02 6:31pm

NWF

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giotto said:

jazzy328is said:

NWF said:

As coincidence would have it, I had just downloaded this song on Kazaa. It's pretty funny. But the backing music is basically "777-9311". It was still cool, though.


That is the Point, 777 was the hit, so morris added humor to it on the B-Side. I love this.


The vocal on this is actually by Prince, not by Morris...


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You're kidding. That sounds sooo much like Morris.
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Reply #6 posted 11/17/02 8:17pm

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NWF said:

giotto said:

jazzy328is said:

NWF said:

As coincidence would have it, I had just downloaded this song on Kazaa. It's pretty funny. But the backing music is basically "777-9311". It was still cool, though.


That is the Point, 777 was the hit, so morris added humor to it on the B-Side. I love this.


The vocal on this is actually by Prince, not by Morris...


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You're kidding. That sounds sooo much like Morris.



Oh NWF, u know damn well that is Morris, they sound nothing alike, even whenPrince does turn in2 Jamie, he still dont sound like him no matter what, have u heard Chocolate?

Yeah but Grace is kul! Some1 stole it from me!
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Reply #7 posted 11/18/02 4:01am

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The vocal on this is actually by Prince, not by Morris...


Noop, the vocals are by Morris.
There's another TheTime track that DOES include Prince's vocals: Tricky (b-side of Jungle Love)... which is a really funny song . I think you've got them twisted. nod


Peace,
TheKid
[This message was edited Mon Nov 18 4:02:04 PST 2002 by TheKid]



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Reply #8 posted 11/18/02 6:39am

thedog

Morris does the vocals on grace with Vanity. It's the song tricky that is a B side to ice cream castle that Prince does most of the vocals
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Reply #9 posted 11/18/02 7:06am

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One of my favorite joints.

Thus the tag...
"Funk is something you learn in school
and there ain't nothing funky about bein' cool."


fro worship prince
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Reply #10 posted 11/18/02 7:43pm

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TRON said:

It's on Kazaa.

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I can't find it. I suck at Kazaa.

Help?
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Reply #11 posted 11/19/02 1:36pm

giotto

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paisleypark4 said:


Oh NWF, u know damn well that is Morris, they sound nothing alike, even whenPrince does turn in2 Jamie, he still dont sound like him no matter what, have u heard Chocolate?

Yeah but Grace is kul! Some1 stole it from me!


One simple test will dispel once and for all the confusion regarding whose vocal it really is on 'Grace': just run a portion of that track (or the entire song, if you prefer) through a digital voice decoder, then match the result with any track featuring a bona-fide vocal by Prince and, bingo, you will find that despite the huge difference apparent to the human ear, it is Prince all the way.

The same will apply to tracks like 'Tricky' and, of course, the demo version of 'Chocolate'.
I can readily cite several other examples of mistakenly attributed vocals I have been able to pinpoint this way. One case that springs to mind is the spoken intro during the first few seconds at the beginning of 'Soulpsychodelicide'. Often attributed to George Clinton (who otherwise features quite prominently on this track), the spoken intro is, surprisingly enough, delivered by Tony Mosley.
A more recent example of a vocal being assumed to be by someone else is the start and the end of 'Peace', supposedly featuring some humorous asides by Morris Hayes. However, the above spoken segments do match Kip Blackshire's vocal on the 18th December 1999 live performance at Paisley Park (from the 'Rave Un2 The Year 2000' release).

It is widely acknowledged that Prince did often lay down guide vocals for Morris Day to copy exactly, inflection by inflection, and down to the last mannerism, pretty much utilizing the same strategy Prince adopted for St. Paul during the Family sessions (although Prince's guide vocal was clearly much more obvious on this occasion than on The Time). In fact, this was one of the main reasons why The Time members - despite the fact that they were a strong live working unit - were becoming increasingly frustrated by Prince constantly wanting to control everything down to the last detail, as they felt they could contribute more to the music and the image.

Let's not forget that The Time was always intended to be a vehicle for Morris Day, and the band was created primarily because Prince didn't want to turn his back on his R&B audience and needed and outlet for material he decided could never have released under his "Prince" persona.

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Reply #12 posted 11/19/02 1:44pm

chewymusic

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I love when Mo calls her Grace,
She corrects him, he apologises,
then as she continues to ask him a
question, he whispers: Grace!
lol
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Reply #13 posted 11/19/02 2:27pm

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A little off topic, but who's the voice who answers the phone on Vanity 6's 'If the girl answers, don't hang up' song? I always thought it was Morris, but with headphones on the other day, i couldn't tell for sure if it was Prince or Morris. Anyone know??
[This message was edited Tue Nov 19 14:27:58 PST 2002 by mrchristian]
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Reply #14 posted 11/19/02 2:34pm

chewymusic

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Dont get me wrong, some of my best friends
wear blue jeans...
I'm just not ever seen with them!

lol
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Reply #15 posted 11/19/02 3:17pm

wishuhvn

mrchristian said:

A little off topic, but who's the voice who answers the phone on Vanity 6's 'If the girl answers, don't hang up' song? I always thought it was Morris, but with headphones on the other day, i couldn't tell for sure if it was Prince or Morris. Anyone know??
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Mr. Christian I do believe that is Prince...At least it never sounded like Morris 2 me...Aloha~
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Reply #16 posted 11/19/02 3:22pm

mrchristian

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wishuhvn said:

mrchristian said:

A little off topic, but who's the voice who answers the phone on Vanity 6's 'If the girl answers, don't hang up' song? I always thought it was Morris, but with headphones on the other day, i couldn't tell for sure if it was Prince or Morris. Anyone know??
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Mr. Christian I do believe that is Prince...At least it never sounded like Morris 2 me...Aloha~
If it's prince, it sounds like he's doing his morris impression(or was morris always copying prince??-who knows)
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Reply #17 posted 11/19/02 7:11pm

SWANG

giotto said:



I can readily cite several other examples of mistakenly attributed vocals I have been able to pinpoint this way. One case that springs to mind is the spoken intro during the first few seconds at the beginning of 'Soulpsychodelicide'. Often attributed to George Clinton (who otherwise features quite prominently on this track), the spoken intro is, surprisingly enough, delivered by Tony Mosley.


Unless you heard a different version of this song than I did (and Lord knows, there are about a thousand of them), the voice on the intro of this song IS George Clinton. George originally wrote this spoken word piece for a Funkadelic track called 'Nosebleed' which was to have appeared on the unreleased 'By the Way of the Drum' album.


A more recent example of a vocal being assumed to be by someone else is the start and the end of 'Peace', supposedly featuring some humorous asides by Morris Hayes. However, the above spoken segments do match Kip Blackshire's vocal on the 18th December 1999 live performance at Paisley Park (from the 'Rave Un2 The Year 2000' release).


Actually, the "humorous asides" in question are the work of Johnnie Blackshire, Kip's brother. Kip is the guy laughing hysterically in the background.


-SWANGhasanitchybum
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Reply #18 posted 11/20/02 12:44pm

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Shit, you're right! I got the Blackshire brothers mixed-up! Thanks for the observation.

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Reply #19 posted 11/20/02 12:50pm

Brother915

"Morris is there anything else you'd like to say before we close this interview"?..."YEEESSS!!!What's yo phone number???"

(sighs)...7...7...7...9...3...1...1"

"Ain't nobody BADD,,like me"
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Reply #20 posted 11/20/02 1:08pm

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Yeah. And little did Dez Dickerson know half of America would be ringing his phone off the hook after '777 9311' became The Time's biggest hit single up to then.

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Reply #21 posted 11/20/02 4:08pm

NWF

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How in the world could Morris say that Funk was dead? He was the Funk that was happening at that time.
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Reply #22 posted 11/21/02 6:59am

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One simple test will dispel once and for all the confusion regarding whose vocal it really is on 'Grace': just run a portion of that track (or the entire song, if you prefer) through a digital voice decoder, then match the result with any track featuring a bona-fide vocal by Prince and, bingo, you will find that despite the huge difference apparent to the human ear, it is Prince all the way.


Hmmm, I'll have to listen to the song tonight.



Peace,
TheKid



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