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Printablemakes sense to go day, month, year, actually, Month, day, year is out of order, logically. And I'm an American! My Legacy
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PurplePony said: Hi orgers...
Received an email from Amazon UK stating that the release date has been changed but no exact date given. It does state that estimated arrival date is 7th to 13th October!  OH MY GOD...That sucks big time.  | |
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SPOOKYGAS said: PurplePony said: English and British are 2 entirely different things! Don't even go there! No they are not! If you are English you are British tis a fact, do you have an English passport or a British passport? To be pedantic, they hold UK passports, not British passports. And back to the book...another delayed project. Who would have expected that?  | |
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LittleRedCorvette said: Dayclear said: There is no such thing as 13/10/08
 LOL ~ When I went to England and had to go through customs, we had to fill out a form with our birthday. I had put down my birthday as 10/28/?. The guy at customs scratched it out and rewrote it as 28/10/?. I smiled and said (without thinking btw), "Oh you all do it backwards over here." The customs officer in his very British droll voice said, "No Madam. We do it right."  actually, neither are "right". The "right" way to write dates is yyyymmdd or yyyy/mm/dd - and leave in the leading zeros for month and day. Write dates like that and an alphabetical sort also becomes a chronological sort. |
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PopeLeo said: SPOOKYGAS said: No they are not! If you are English you are British tis a fact, do you have an English passport or a British passport? To be pedantic, they hold UK passports, not British passports. And back to the book...another delayed project. Who would have expected that? To be wrong more like! It is the United Kingdom Of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to be precise, otherwise commonly known as British passports! |
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SPOOKYGAS said: PopeLeo said: To be pedantic, they hold UK passports, not British passports. And back to the book...another delayed project. Who would have expected that? To be wrong more like! It is the United Kingdom Of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to be precise, otherwise commonly known as British passports! I'm Irish - trust me, I know the difference and what the Act of Union did to my country's history for the last 2 centuries. That's why I said I was being pedantic as I was being precisely correct. And you are what they commonly refer to as an *add insult of choosing here* | |
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this thread is hilarious!
I'm from Manchester-and I always say the UK. See I've been roped in to the debate!! | |
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PopeLeo said: SPOOKYGAS said: To be wrong more like! It is the United Kingdom Of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to be precise, otherwise commonly known as British passports! I'm Irish - trust me, I know the difference and what the Act of Union did to my country's history for the last 2 centuries. That's why I said I was being pedantic as I was being precisely correct. And you are what they commonly refer to as an *add insult of choosing here* Being Irish gives you no right to tell a Scotsman to describe his passport as a UK one, after all you are not British are you! Have you ever heard anyone say that they are United Kingdomers! No thought not,but I bet you have heard people saying that they are British. As for the Act of Union and I assume you are talking about the one in the year 1800, well that was your parliament that got into bed with the Kingdom of Great Britain. The fact still remains that it is a British passport which encompasses citizens of England, Scotland, Wales and NORTHERN Ireland, this collection of countries are known as the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. This is not rocket science my Celtic cousin is it! |
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I still fail to see the logic of your 'rocket science'. You are correct in saying that the UK is commonly known as Britain but that is an incorrect description. If your definition of 'Britain' and 'British' was correct, then it would imply that there was no part of the island of Ireland in the UK and Irish politics would be a whole lot easier. If only.
Most of the Scots I know would be insulted if I called them British. They have their own parliament again and at the moment the largest party is the Scottish Nationalist Party who state that "The primary aim of the SNP is to take Scotland forward to independence". I hope they achieve their aim. The Act of Union was prompted by the failed Irish rebellion of 1798 and the fear of France gaining control of Ireland. Then there was the small problem of catholic emancipation. So it wasn't exactly happy families. And as for Northern Ireland, you'd insult both sides of the divide there by describing the UK as Britain - some Unionists may describe themselves as being British but they don't like to be forgotten about. And most of the nationalists just apply for an Irish passport instead as they feel neither British nor part of the UK. SPOOKYGAS said: PopeLeo said: I'm Irish - trust me, I know the difference and what the Act of Union did to my country's history for the last 2 centuries. That's why I said I was being pedantic as I was being precisely correct. And you are what they commonly refer to as an *add insult of choosing here* Being Irish gives you no right to tell a Scotsman to describe his passport as a UK one, after all you are not British are you! Have you ever heard anyone say that they are United Kingdomers! No thought not,but I bet you have heard people saying that they are British. As for the Act of Union and I assume you are talking about the one in the year 1800, well that was your parliament that got into bed with the Kingdom of Great Britain. The fact still remains that it is a British passport which encompasses citizens of England, Scotland, Wales and NORTHERN Ireland, this collection of countries are known as the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. This is not rocket science my Celtic cousin is it! | |
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PopeLeo said: I still fail to see the logic of your 'rocket science'. You are correct in saying that the UK is commonly known as Britain but that is an incorrect description. If your definition of 'Britain' and 'British' was correct, then it would imply that there was no part of the island of Ireland in the UK and Irish politics would be a whole lot easier. If only.
Most of the Scots I know would be insulted if I called them British. They have their own parliament again and at the moment the largest party is the Scottish Nationalist Party who state that "The primary aim of the SNP is to take Scotland forward to independence". I hope they achieve their aim. The Act of Union was prompted by the failed Irish rebellion of 1798 and the fear of France gaining control of Ireland. Then there was the small problem of catholic emancipation. So it wasn't exactly happy families. And as for Northern Ireland, you'd insult both sides of the divide there by describing the UK as Britain - some Unionists may describe themselves as being British but they don't like to be forgotten about. And most of the nationalists just apply for an Irish passport instead as they feel neither British nor part of the UK. SPOOKYGAS said: Being Irish gives you no right to tell a Scotsman to describe his passport as a UK one, after all you are not British are you! Have you ever heard anyone say that they are United Kingdomers! No thought not,but I bet you have heard people saying that they are British. As for the Act of Union and I assume you are talking about the one in the year 1800, well that was your parliament that got into bed with the Kingdom of Great Britain. The fact still remains that it is a British passport which encompasses citizens of England, Scotland, Wales and NORTHERN Ireland, this collection of countries are known as the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. This is not rocket science my Celtic cousin is it! Okay, lets take this from the top. The passport is a British passport (see wikipedia type in UK passport and you are redirected to British passport). I am a proud Scot (I dont feel insulted to be known as British) who has a British passport (you cannot get a Scottish passport). At the recent Olympics there was a team from Great Britain (not team UK) which included athletes from England, Scotland, Wales and NORTHERN IRELAND!!!! I know all about the past History of these great Islands and I am very proud of most of what my nation, (Scotland) has contributed to that history. At the end of the day your opinion is not going to change facts. I have a British passport and nothing you say is going to change that. |
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You're taking the piss, right? Trying to tell me that the UK and Britain are completely interchangeable terms and then quoting Wikipedia at me?????
SPOOKYGAS said: PopeLeo said: I still fail to see the logic of your 'rocket science'. You are correct in saying that the UK is commonly known as Britain but that is an incorrect description. If your definition of 'Britain' and 'British' was correct, then it would imply that there was no part of the island of Ireland in the UK and Irish politics would be a whole lot easier. If only.
Most of the Scots I know would be insulted if I called them British. They have their own parliament again and at the moment the largest party is the Scottish Nationalist Party who state that "The primary aim of the SNP is to take Scotland forward to independence". I hope they achieve their aim. The Act of Union was prompted by the failed Irish rebellion of 1798 and the fear of France gaining control of Ireland. Then there was the small problem of catholic emancipation. So it wasn't exactly happy families. And as for Northern Ireland, you'd insult both sides of the divide there by describing the UK as Britain - some Unionists may describe themselves as being British but they don't like to be forgotten about. And most of the nationalists just apply for an Irish passport instead as they feel neither British nor part of the UK. Okay, lets take this from the top. The passport is a British passport (see wikipedia type in UK passport and you are redirected to British passport). I am a proud Scot (I dont feel insulted to be known as British) who has a British passport (you cannot get a Scottish passport). At the recent Olympics there was a team from Great Britain (not team UK) which included athletes from England, Scotland, Wales and NORTHERN IRELAND!!!! I know all about the past History of these great Islands and I am very proud of most of what my nation, (Scotland) has contributed to that history. At the end of the day your opinion is not going to change facts. I have a British passport and nothing you say is going to change that. | |
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Anway Amazon UK is now reporting 30/9/08 (English/British/Scottish/Welsh) or to traslate 9/30/08 (American, Canadian, Quebecan, Brazilian) or 2008-09-30 (international) or 30.09.2008 (German, European) couldn't find the Japanese format and speaking as a Brit, the Australian format would just be upside down
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erniem said: Anway Amazon UK is now reporting 30/9/08 (English/British/Scottish/Welsh) or to traslate 9/30/08 (American, Canadian, Quebecan, Brazilian) or 2008-09-30 (international) or 30.09.2008 (German, European) couldn't find the Japanese format and speaking as a Brit, the Australian format would just be upside down
Now lets just focus on the book as I want the live CD Here here. (BTW the most common Japanese format would be 2008年9月30 日) [Edited 9/17/08 6:36am] | |
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PopeLeo said: Most of the Scots I know would be insulted if I called them British. They have their own parliament again and at the moment the largest party is the Scottish Nationalist Party who state that "The primary aim of the SNP is to take Scotland forward to independence". I hope they achieve their aim.
And as for Northern Ireland, you'd insult both sides of the divide there by describing the UK as Britain - some Unionists may describe themselves as being British but they don't like to be forgotten about. And most of the nationalists just apply for an Irish passport instead as they feel neither British nor part of the UK. You are right, most Scots would not like being called British, but that simply goes to show how ill educated the majority is when it comes to their true history. Many modern day Scots, particularly those with Celt bloodline, walk around with a giant chip on their shoulder with regards to this topic, acting the occupied or trapped nation. The fact of the matter is, it was the Celts that were the invaders, not the English. The original population of Scotland was made up of Britons , Picts and Caledonians. The Celts invaded from Ireland, killed the Picts off, pushed the Caledonians into the highlands and the Britons south into what would become modern day England. The Britons, the original inhabitants of Scotland, became the English. So whilst the SNP claim they are taking Scotland "forward to independence", they are actually trying to annex off a section of land from what was once a singular entity. The term Great Britain comes from the roman "Britannia", referring to the island as a whole, so the term British, and its links with Briton/Britannia, is a more historically accurate title than Scotland, England and Wales. It’s the shame the population don’t consider themselves to be from the country of Britain, and the district of England/Scotland/Wales. Then everyone would get on a lot better, and be historically accurate. Technically, Great Britain is England, Scotland and Wales, whilst the UK also includes Northern Ireland. Although these lines get blurred. As far as passports are concerned only "British" is recognised as a nationality. . |
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SquirrelMeat said: PopeLeo said: Most of the Scots I know would be insulted if I called them British. They have their own parliament again and at the moment the largest party is the Scottish Nationalist Party who state that "The primary aim of the SNP is to take Scotland forward to independence". I hope they achieve their aim.
And as for Northern Ireland, you'd insult both sides of the divide there by describing the UK as Britain - some Unionists may describe themselves as being British but they don't like to be forgotten about. And most of the nationalists just apply for an Irish passport instead as they feel neither British nor part of the UK. You are right, most Scots would not like being called British, but that simply goes to show how ill educated the majority is when it comes to their true history. Many modern day Scots, particularly those with Celt bloodline, walk around with a giant chip on their shoulder with regards to this topic, acting the occupied or trapped nation. The fact of the matter is, it was the Celts that were the invaders, not the English. The original population of Scotland was made up of Britons , Picts and Caledonians. The Celts invaded from Ireland, killed the Picts off, pushed the Caledonians into the highlands and the Britons south into what would become modern day England. The Britons, the original inhabitants of Scotland, became the English. So whilst the SNP claim they are taking Scotland "forward to independence", they are actually trying to annex off a section of land from what was once a singular entity. The term Great Britain comes from the roman "Britannia", referring to the island as a whole, so the term British, and its links with Briton/Britannia, is a more historically accurate title than Scotland, England and Wales. It’s the shame the population don’t consider themselves to be from the country of Britain, and the district of England/Scotland/Wales. Then everyone would get on a lot better, and be historically accurate. Technically, Great Britain is England, Scotland and Wales, whilst the UK also includes Northern Ireland. Although these lines get blurred. As far as passports are concerned only "British" is recognised as a nationality. They need to lighten up! I don't have to be of the same species as Imago or JerseyKRS, but we're all Americans. It's not that big a deal! My Legacy
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PopeLeo said:[quote]You're taking the piss, right? Trying to tell me that the UK and Britain are completely interchangeable terms and then quoting Wikipedia at me????? :lol:
Did U hear the one about the Scotsman the Englishman and the Irishman? Me tinks tis U that is extracting the urine Mr Pope. I would have thought that with you living on the British Isles you might have had an idea about this subject. [Edited 9/17/08 16:32pm] |
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You left out the part where the Anglo-Saxons subsequently pushed the ancient Britons out of most of what is now England, so the only true British people are the Welsh, the Cornish and the Bretons of France. Follow the language to follow the people - all their languages are Celtic languages, unlike the English language which is a Germanic language. So the Scots and the Irish would have a lot more in common with the British than the English.
SquirrelMeat said: PopeLeo said: Most of the Scots I know would be insulted if I called them British. They have their own parliament again and at the moment the largest party is the Scottish Nationalist Party who state that "The primary aim of the SNP is to take Scotland forward to independence". I hope they achieve their aim.
And as for Northern Ireland, you'd insult both sides of the divide there by describing the UK as Britain - some Unionists may describe themselves as being British but they don't like to be forgotten about. And most of the nationalists just apply for an Irish passport instead as they feel neither British nor part of the UK. You are right, most Scots would not like being called British, but that simply goes to show how ill educated the majority is when it comes to their true history. Many modern day Scots, particularly those with Celt bloodline, walk around with a giant chip on their shoulder with regards to this topic, acting the occupied or trapped nation. The fact of the matter is, it was the Celts that were the invaders, not the English. The original population of Scotland was made up of Britons , Picts and Caledonians. The Celts invaded from Ireland, killed the Picts off, pushed the Caledonians into the highlands and the Britons south into what would become modern day England. The Britons, the original inhabitants of Scotland, became the English. So whilst the SNP claim they are taking Scotland "forward to independence", they are actually trying to annex off a section of land from what was once a singular entity. The term Great Britain comes from the roman "Britannia", referring to the island as a whole, so the term British, and its links with Briton/Britannia, is a more historically accurate title than Scotland, England and Wales. It’s the shame the population don’t consider themselves to be from the country of Britain, and the district of England/Scotland/Wales. Then everyone would get on a lot better, and be historically accurate. Technically, Great Britain is England, Scotland and Wales, whilst the UK also includes Northern Ireland. Although these lines get blurred. As far as passports are concerned only "British" is recognised as a nationality. | |
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SPOOKYGAS said: Did U hear the one about the Scotsman the Englishman and the Irishman? Me tinks tis U that is extracting the urine Mr Pope. I would have thought that with you living on the British Isles you might have had an idea about this subject. [Edited 9/17/08 16:32pm] I'll let that one slide. But I see you're in Perth. But the one in Australia and not Scotland. End up getting the wrong bus home after a few beers? [Edited 9/17/08 16:54pm] | |
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viewaskew said: PurplePony said: Hi orgers...
Received an email from Amazon UK stating that the release date has been changed but no exact date given. It does state that estimated arrival date is 7th to 13th October! I'd hate to say I told you so, but anyone who didn't expect this was kidding themselves. I just hope it comes before Oct.15-when I go on vacation-Good ET for my plane-ride! Too Bad no new info on new Music & the Tour that got lost a few times-lost Promises!I don't expect in my Lifetime! As that gameplay reveals all! One never needs to Speak to see the Truth of things! We all arn't Blind!Wake-up! Where's my Tea??? Peace & Love! Randee | |
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PopeLeo said: SPOOKYGAS said: Did U hear the one about the Scotsman the Englishman and the Irishman? Me tinks tis U that is extracting the urine Mr Pope. I would have thought that with you living on the British Isles you might have had an idea about this subject. [Edited 9/17/08 16:32pm] I'll let that one slide. But I see you're in Perth. But the one in Australia and not Scotland. End up getting the wrong bus home after a few beers? [Edited 9/17/08 16:54pm] had 2 get off that Island...I found that there was no real sense of identity...some people thought they were British others Kingdomers others English etc etc... I did contemplate Eire (only for a second), but discovered that the weather there is worse than Bonny Scotland! |
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SPOOKYGAS said: PopeLeo said: I'll let that one slide. But I see you're in Perth. But the one in Australia and not Scotland. End up getting the wrong bus home after a few beers? [Edited 9/17/08 16:54pm] had 2 get off that Island...I found that there was no real sense of identity...some people thought they were British others Kingdomers others English etc etc... I did contemplate Eire (only for a second), but discovered that the weather there is worse than Bonny Scotland! Cool - Australia's a nice country. Ireland would be perfect apart from the weather. And the neighbours. | |
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i cant believe how off topic this thread has got
well annoyed if the book has been delayed as i was hoping to see it before i go to Australia for 10 weeks  With Love there is no Death | |
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Ok im English with celtic blood ,My ancsetors came from Irland who then moved to Scotland and now spread out to America and England ,Im happy and proud to be British and cant be arsed with people who dwell in the past.You will never change what happened in history !!! | |
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