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Thread started 08/27/08 11:34am

LondonStyle

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Prince and Madonna - Is this fact true?

Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk....pop.facts

16. Madonna reportedly turned down Prince when he asked her to take the female lead in his Graffiti Bridge movie, because the screenplay was awful. To give you an idea of how bad she thought the screenplay was, films Madonna said yes to include Shanghai Surprise, Swept Away, Dick Tracy, Body of Evidence and The Next Best Thing. She has received Razzie awards for Worst Actress (several times) and Worst Supporting Actress (twice), also being half responsible for winning Worst Screen Couple (twice), and, in 2000, Worst Actress of the Century

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Reply #1 posted 08/27/08 11:38am

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LondonStyle said:

Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk....pop.facts

16. Madonna reportedly turned down Prince when he asked her to take the female lead in his Graffiti Bridge movie, because the screenplay was awful. To give you an idea of how bad she thought the screenplay was, films Madonna said yes to include Shanghai Surprise, Swept Away, Dick Tracy, Body of Evidence and The Next Best Thing. She has received Razzie awards for Worst Actress (several times) and Worst Supporting Actress (twice), also being half responsible for winning Worst Screen Couple (twice), and, in 2000, Worst Actress of the Century

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Reply #2 posted 08/27/08 11:38am

GNS

Tis true. I believe she told him the script was garbage.
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Reply #3 posted 08/27/08 12:02pm

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GNS said:

Tis true. I believe she told him the script was garbage.


It's true... and she was right!
(if you thought the released film was bad, you should've read the original
script, it was way worse!)
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Reply #4 posted 08/27/08 12:49pm

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BorisFishpaw said:

GNS said:

Tis true. I believe she told him the script was garbage.


It's true... and she was right!
(if you thought the released film was bad, you should've read the original
script, it was way worse!)


nod oh lawd that was a mess ..tho cool version 1990 would have been cool 2 hear ..i think lol


but back 2 the topic ..i would have loved 2 have been a fly on the wall after he gave her the royal treatment while visiting paisley park and then seeing his reaction when she told him it was a piece of shit falloff
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #5 posted 08/27/08 12:57pm

sexxydancer

Madonna would've ruined the movie anywayz.hmph! lol
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Reply #6 posted 08/27/08 1:44pm

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You could say a lot of bad about Madonna, but 9 times out of 10, she knows a turd when she sniffs one.
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Reply #7 posted 08/27/08 2:53pm

Dayclear

I heard it's true, but what movie has she done since, that hasn't been garbage? I'm glad she did turn it down. biggrin
[Edited 8/27/08 15:14pm]
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Reply #8 posted 08/27/08 2:58pm

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NouveauDance said:

You could say a lot of bad about Madonna, but 9 times out of 10, she knows a turd when she sniffs one.


Really? I wonder. I think she's been living in the monkey house for a long time, now.
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Reply #9 posted 08/27/08 3:23pm

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Genesia said:

NouveauDance said:

You could say a lot of bad about Madonna, but 9 times out of 10, she knows a turd when she sniffs one.


Really? I wonder. I think she's been living in the monkey house for a long time, now.

Well, certainly her hard candy will rot your speakers.
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Reply #10 posted 08/27/08 5:12pm

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Dayclear said:

I heard it's true, but what movie has she done since, that hasn't been garbage? I'm glad she did turn it down. biggrin
[Edited 8/27/08 15:14pm]


I though Madonna was great in "Dick Tracy." I enjoyed the movie also..but the Soundtrack is fantastic. cool
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Reply #11 posted 08/27/08 6:34pm

SoulAlive

A few years earlier,Prince also wanted Madonna to co-star in 'Under The Cherry Moon' with him.Apparently he really wanted to do a movie with her.
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Reply #12 posted 09/05/08 5:34pm

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Ok this is a dutch to English translation so go easy!,but it highlights how madonna has done a re-gig of her "Love Song" with Prince in her new song "Hung up" wink

Any orger's can fill us in on the Prince Show? wink : "Legendary is the show that he gave on August 19, 1988 in the Trojan Horse in The Hague"

PRINCE MEETS QUEEN

Back in time. Summer 1988. Madonna celebrates its thirtieth anniversary, ï ¬, irte with a acteercarrière and sees her first divorce law in itself coming. Even musically, she is in fresh blood. She writes plenty to the songs of her new album Like a Prayer (1989). One of them reads' Love Song ', a ï ¬, auw nod to Johnny Lydon' This is Not a Love Song. " In addition to her writing about the Prince to her pen to hold. They were classmates or speelkameraadjes can be. Only a thick two months they care. Prince Rogers Nelson, born on June 7, 1958 in o "Minnesota" Minnesota and Madonna Louise Veronica Ciccone, born on August 16, 1958 in Bay City, Michigan. The two main popartiesten of the years up to 1980 are not more than 1168 km from each other or a long day driving in a little red corvette. There are few examples in pop music where the two factors together have brought up to something big. The world is not big enough for the two of them. 'Love Song' is therefore no climax in the works of both muziekhelden. In the light of Madonna's own 'Hung Up' leads' Love Song ', however interesting perspectives. The third stanza of the latter reads as follows:

"Time goes by so slowly for those who wait

And those who run

Seems to have all the fun

But are you wasting my time - she's so ï ¬ ne

Are you just being kind '

The differences with 'Hung up' are small, but crucial.

"Time goes by so slowly for those who wait

No time to hesitate

Those who run

Seems to have all the fun

I'm caught up

I do not know what to do '

The leap that Madonna makes' Love Song 'to' Hung Up 'is in every respect "back in time." 'Hung Up' is both a jump of sixteen years as a leap to and from a sixteen. The number recycles a few phrases from 'Love Song', but would prefer a different meaning. "Those who run / Seems to have all the fun 'to let' Hung Up 'pubertal the gap between me and the others, while I from the' Love Song 'now just part of the hasty meute. 'Hung Up' combines firmness with impatience ( "No time to hesitate '), boredom with despair (" I do not know what to do "). It seems both the sixteen teenager as the zesenveertigjarige midlifer to the floor. Where in "Hung Up" is a combination of a mature teenager or adult pubertal appears, I show the person in 'Love Song' still much clearer to an adult. The type that does not know what first made on her time. The type for whom boredom and time out of the question. The type whose biological clock is ticking after the thirty harder. The type of 'Are you wasting my time? "

At the time of 'Love Song' Madonna appeared as a woman, a mother, as artist and as wealth & famous one of the most important icons of the impending millennium. Twenty years later, you may wonder whether La Ciccone (just under anagram of 'icon' mark me now) that actually has become. Judging from the way they end april The Roseland Ballroom brought a festive mood, she has' it 'remains as an aura hanging over her head. Or is it that itself that its head is still back this time seems to make? Madonna looks at its fiftieth younger than twenty years ago. That is, at its thirtieth saw them thirty, while it looks today the same ambiguity as' Hung up ': they can both an adolescent as a mistress at his age. If they bet on two horses by both the old fans as the young kids to charm?

THE OIL FROM THE POPMUZIEK

There are nicer things than ageing in pop music. It is a cliche, but one of the laws of the genre is that you for your thirtieth tragic myth should die for you to prevail. After the thirtieth'm up to nothing more able, except to repeat yourself. Speaking in this context is the story of Prince. The first ten years of his career, he has the world bestookt with brilliant albums, but after Sign o 'the Times was suddenly done in the eyes of criticism and public. On the other hand, turn the ofï ¬ ¬ e cieuze discograï together since then he has played, does not need to do under for his first ten golden years. After his thirtieth Prince was there a hobby with his infamous aftershows. Where it during his concerts are great works of dozens of hits at a high speed doordramt, he takes for his aftershows time to himself as an artist, musician and performer fully to life. First work, then play. Where the big concerts tion on the successes of yesteryear, the aftershows the ultimate celebratie of the Now. Legendary is the show that he gave on August 19, 1988 in the Trojan Horse in The Hague. Who was not here, for the rest of his days satisfied with the CD Small Club 2nd Show, one of the best bootlegs of all time. Who there that evening to do was, knew that something unusual happened, that there Momentum hung in the air.

Momentum is something like the youth, the happiness, the sublime or a gray mouse that suicide: you only realize that it was, when it disappeared. Momentum is the oil of pop music. Without Momentum, there was no pop music, let alone a poppubliek.

It is the suggestion of the now ubiquitous. The suggestion that that now houses something eternal and as such it is also counterproductive. The special thing about Momentum is that no individual but a collective experience. All noses, eyes or ears at the same time in the same direction.

Pop music as the icon of youth culture that exists by virtue of Momentum. There are numerous examples of brilliant records that the collective memory not met, because their right place, wrong time content. Conversely, there are also numerous examples of bands that even if their Momentum tests, but there forever to bear the stigma. They have the good fortune and misfortune that their music the soundtrack of an era. Only one song in the collective memory, there was need for the rest of their days always go back in time. Time and again the same songs to play for a generation whose youth will forever associate with their music. Because how comprehensive and eternal Momentum in the experience may seem, it always loses the repetition and memory. Which still live popmuzikant after its thirtieth still stood eye to eye with the Momentum? That does not mean that a large part of the popindustrie floats on the desire that Momentum back to life. Each has poplegende his career due to that desire.

At first glance seems Madonna an exception to the cliche that if you live in your popartiest thirtieth tragedy must end, if it is not as tragic reminder of recurrence and survival. Madonna has her career after the thirty seriously on the rails. Only long after the monstersucces of Like a Virgin (1984) and True Blue (1986) the criticism would begin to take seriously its conceptplaten as Like a Prayer (1989) and Ray of Light (1998).

It is much harder to ensure its adherence to the identity of a certain age associate. Postmodern par excellence has her career the past 25 years numerous metamorphoses.

But one aspect always came back: they knew each another part of the Now. Each new album sounds' like the ï ¬ rst time and the best time. " Time and again Madonna knew the death of her Momentum should be postponed. But to what extent is her perpetual Momentum no artiï ¬ cial creation of a battery extremely stylists, hip producers, plastic surgeons, cunning marketers and, more recently, ï ¬ losofen? In ours, a society suffering collective amnesia makes the apparently low. Because it still seems to continue to work.

Nevertheless, you are in that respect but wonder whether it is true that there are so many copies of Madonna walking, as they claimed themselves as a result of "Hung Up"? Who or which musical followers? According to Allmusic Guide is her musical legacy continued through, inter alia, Milli Vanilli, Tiffany and Vanessa Williams. Well! With a little good will would you Britney Spears and Kylie Minogue to her school can also count. It seems no coincidence that in the classroom where Madonna to the plate, suicide, to the commission or having other health problems. Would Madonna themselves too young and too happy to remain young popgodinnen in its proximity to tolerate?

Madonna's dream is that of eternal youth and the eternal rebirth. But that dream threatens the Queen of Pop to be fatal. She wants to be fucked by and in the present, but how old she is, the more they verneukt by the same date. Even the best botoxdokter can ultimately little to do. In short, "fuck the present 'and' back in time." But the new verwensen today and return to the previous day, is essentially the same as what each does poplegende: his own myth survive. Even though gives you the recipe to make the most postmodern sauce over casting. Based on "Hung up" and the announcement in The Roseland, Madonna seems now in the 'back in time to stage sit. With one leg still. A bone that geï ¬, ankeerd by black boots and clothes. When she was a black widow. Perhaps the youth of today.
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Reply #13 posted 09/05/08 6:11pm

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She probably turned it down because of overexposure, she was already everywhere in 1990. Good move.
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