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Thread started 08/28/08 6:31am

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Dinner with Dolores...is ''doleres'' warner bros????

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Reply #1 posted 08/28/08 10:32am

Baylana

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I always it was about women who try to get close to him for reasons other than himself.
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Reply #2 posted 08/28/08 11:02am

Haystack

I've always wondered if Delores was meant to be Prince himself and the song is sung from the point of view of Warner's and maybe even his fans.

The early references to being like a brontosaurus 'packing it in' and 'eating all but the tip' makes me think of Prince's insistence to release what WB saw as too much music. (And weren't brontosaurus' vegetarians?)

'Showing dirty movies, like some kind of whore' - They must have let him known at some point just how bad Graffiti Bridge was.

'Her bell's just a-broken since 1984' - Never going to repeat the Purple Rain success.

'Dancin' like a white girl on disco dirty floors' - Wasn't there the odd criticism in the 80s that Prince was making 'white' pop music rather than sticking with his supposed roots?

'Damn, Delores, pick another subject please. Introduce the carpet 2 something other than your knees' - The whole Slave thing and the 'aren't WB awful' attitude that I know I was getting bored of by 1996. He really was starting to sound a little pathetic at times, maybe Prince finally realised just how he was sounding. From Emancipation onwards, we saw a much more positive Prince.

'Dinner with Delores. No more, that's the end' - They're not going to be 'dining' with him again, although this lyric could work both ways.

To me, the song sounds like it was Prince realising that bitterness and complaining wasn't creating a positive vibe and I've always felt that it sounded like an apology and he was finally seeing the situation from their side. Like a positive kiss-off to counterbalance the more negative 'Had U'.

But hey, it's easy to interpret stuff any way you like if you want to.
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Reply #3 posted 08/28/08 1:22pm

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one of my faves, i think it's inclusion on chaos and disorder answers your question, as it was a "f-you" album
[Edited 8/28/08 13:22pm]
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Reply #4 posted 08/28/08 9:56pm

Tame

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Maybe Delores is a stage name for the girl that thinks that she can get into Prince's heart by giving him a bj...which any girl knows how to do. cool
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Reply #5 posted 08/28/08 10:26pm

SUPRMAN

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Tame said:

Maybe Delores is a stage name for the girl that thinks that she can get into Prince's heart by giving him a bj...which any girl knows how to do. cool



Whoa. Really? Where do you meet women?
I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think.
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Reply #6 posted 08/29/08 1:42am

SoulAlive

Tame said:

Maybe Delores is a stage name for the girl that thinks that she can get into Prince's heart by giving him a bj...which any girl knows how to do. cool


damn Delores,pick another subject please
introduce the carpet to something other than your knees


lol love that lyric!
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Reply #7 posted 08/29/08 4:11am

Christopher

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wasnt this song about carmen elektra or something???
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Reply #8 posted 08/29/08 6:10am

guestie

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I heard it was about Madonna
U should have let me down easy,
If u had no plans 2 please me!
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Reply #9 posted 08/29/08 6:23am

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Very interesting.

Haystack said:

I've always wondered if Delores was meant to be Prince himself and the song is sung from the point of view of Warner's and maybe even his fans.

The early references to being like a brontosaurus 'packing it in' and 'eating all but the tip' makes me think of Prince's insistence to release what WB saw as too much music. (And weren't brontosaurus' vegetarians?)

'Showing dirty movies, like some kind of whore' - They must have let him known at some point just how bad Graffiti Bridge was.

'Her bell's just a-broken since 1984' - Never going to repeat the Purple Rain success.

'Dancin' like a white girl on disco dirty floors' - Wasn't there the odd criticism in the 80s that Prince was making 'white' pop music rather than sticking with his supposed roots?

'Damn, Delores, pick another subject please. Introduce the carpet 2 something other than your knees' - The whole Slave thing and the 'aren't WB awful' attitude that I know I was getting bored of by 1996. He really was starting to sound a little pathetic at times, maybe Prince finally realised just how he was sounding. From Emancipation onwards, we saw a much more positive Prince.

'Dinner with Delores. No more, that's the end' - They're not going to be 'dining' with him again, although this lyric could work both ways.

To me, the song sounds like it was Prince realising that bitterness and complaining wasn't creating a positive vibe and I've always felt that it sounded like an apology and he was finally seeing the situation from their side. Like a positive kiss-off to counterbalance the more negative 'Had U'.

But hey, it's easy to interpret stuff any way you like if you want to.
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Reply #10 posted 08/29/08 6:29am

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Yes, it was basically about WB. Though I think it works on several levels, so
it can be read as Delores as WB, but it also has meaning with Prince as Delores
too. I'm sure Prince intended both interpretations.
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Reply #11 posted 08/29/08 6:34am

Revolution

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Dolores, depending on the pronunciation, also means "dollars" in spanish.
Wasn't he with Mayte during this time? She must have taught him some spanish.
Very interesting theory...never thought about this song being about WB.
Thanks for the laughs, arguments and overall enjoyment for the last umpteen years. It's time for me to retire from Prince.org and engage in the real world...lol. Above all, I appreciated the talent Prince. You were one of a kind.
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Reply #12 posted 08/29/08 6:49am

pynkcashmere

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Would someone please post the lyrics?
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Reply #13 posted 08/29/08 10:01am

Baylana

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Dinner with Delores
Must be some kind of sin
Like a Brontosaurus
She was packin' it in
The first night we dined
And by the next time
This girl was eatin' all but the tip

And by the stroke of midnight
She wanted some more (more)
Showin' dirty movies
Like some kind of whore
But she was wastin' her time
'Cause there wasn't a line
That would make me come 'round her door

Dinner with Delores
Must be some kind of sin
Her bell's just a-broken (bell's just broken)
Since 1984
(Dancin') Dancin' like a white girl (white girl)
On disco dirty floors
Damn, Delores, pick another subject please
Introduce the carpet 2 something other than your knees

Like a real confession
No one could be more made up than u
Nothin's left 4 guessin'
What a shame
Boo hoo

I'd call u a friend
But it must be a sin
And I've run out of cheeks 2 turn

Dinner with Delores
No more
That's the end
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Reply #14 posted 08/29/08 11:41am

pynkcashmere

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Thank you!

Baylana said:

Dinner with Delores
Must be some kind of sin
Like a Brontosaurus
She was packin' it in
The first night we dined
And by the next time
This girl was eatin' all but the tip

And by the stroke of midnight
She wanted some more (more)
Showin' dirty movies
Like some kind of whore
But she was wastin' her time
'Cause there wasn't a line
That would make me come 'round her door

Dinner with Delores
Must be some kind of sin
Her bell's just a-broken (bell's just broken)
Since 1984
(Dancin') Dancin' like a white girl (white girl)
On disco dirty floors
Damn, Delores, pick another subject please
Introduce the carpet 2 something other than your knees

Like a real confession
No one could be more made up than u
Nothin's left 4 guessin'
What a shame
Boo hoo

I'd call u a friend
But it must be a sin
And I've run out of cheeks 2 turn

Dinner with Delores
No more
That's the end
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Reply #15 posted 09/01/08 2:40am

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Hmm, I never even thought about that.
Goodnight, sweet Prince.
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Reply #16 posted 09/01/08 2:44am

Dayclear

Why do you people try to read so much into Price's music? Everytime that man does something somebody's gotta start a 'what did he really mean', who was he really talking about? thread?? confused
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Reply #17 posted 09/01/08 3:09am

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Dayclear said:

Why do you people try to read so much into Price's music? Everytime that man does something somebody's gotta start a 'what did he really mean', who was he really talking about? thread?? confused


Boredom?
Goodnight, sweet Prince.
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Reply #18 posted 09/01/08 6:29am

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I've heard that the song "Dinner With Dolores" was about Warner Brothers as well. nod Not sure if that is fact or fiction, though.
RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you.
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Reply #19 posted 09/01/08 6:35am

jdcxc

pynkcashmere said:

Thank you!

Baylana said:

Dinner with Delores
Must be some kind of sin
Like a Brontosaurus
She was packin' it in
The first night we dined
And by the next time
This girl was eatin' all but the tip

And by the stroke of midnight
She wanted some more (more)
Showin' dirty movies
Like some kind of whore
But she was wastin' her time
'Cause there wasn't a line
That would make me come 'round her door

Dinner with Delores
Must be some kind of sin
Her bell's just a-broken (bell's just broken)
Since 1984
(Dancin') Dancin' like a white girl (white girl)
On disco dirty floors
Damn, Delores, pick another subject please
Introduce the carpet 2 something other than your knees

Like a real confession
No one could be more made up than u
Nothin's left 4 guessin'
What a shame
Boo hoo

I'd call u a friend
But it must be a sin
And I've run out of cheeks 2 turn

Dinner with Delores
No more
That's the end


It's definately Warner Brothers and a metaphor for that stale, broken relationship. The greedy record company forcing him to churn out the same tired themes from 1984. Brilliant song and great lyrics.
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Reply #20 posted 09/01/08 6:48am

fmarasco

jdcxc said:

pynkcashmere said:

Thank you!



It's definately Warner Brothers and a metaphor for that stale, broken relationship. The greedy record company forcing him to churn out the same tired themes from 1984. Brilliant song and great lyrics.


I remember reading somewhere that is was about Vanity (Denise Matthews).
The name makes sense and so do many of the lyrics.
The rip on her as easy/trashy.
Dancing like a white girl on disco dirty floors- if you've seen some old vanity videos- self evident.
I'd call you a friend- but I've run out of cheeks to turn. This would be an obvious reference to Vanity's turn to religion and when she initially called him a sinner and was talking about him in the press.
But who knows- it aint like prince is telling us.
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Reply #21 posted 09/01/08 11:35am

Haystack

jdcxc said:

...The greedy record company forcing him to churn out the same tired themes from 1984...


[sarcasm]1985, Prince released the perverse ATWIAD only 9 months after PR. Ooh, they really had it in for him didn't they? Fancy letting him pretty much get his way releasing an album so soon after such a major hit record and having it sound so deliciously odd compared to what the masses would have expected.
1986. Yep, that tired old sound of Parade.
1987. It was getting silly now - Sign O The Times was the same, boring old stuff we'd been getting for the past four years. And this time there were two discs of it rolleyes
And fancy Prince, and Prince alone stopping the release of The Black Album and WB letting him. They were so cruel!
1988. And as for the incredibly safe and commercial sounding Lovesexy. Yeah, same old same old... Thank God they forced him to make a safe cover for it. Oh wait...
1989. Ah, now here there's maybe a point. But hey, giving him the soundtrack to the hottest movie of the time. How awful of them.
1990. And yes, they were even selfish enough to allow Prince free-reign to make one of the most self-indulgent pieces of shite that is the GB movie. Good sountrack though.
1991. And fancy spending so much money on promoting the 'same tired themes' with the actually really fresh sounding at the time D&P album. They sure were cruel, spending money taking him back to another commercial peak.[/sarcasm]
1992. Possibly here is where the genuine problems came in and where the grievances actually start.

One of the reasons that people thought the 'Slave' thing was pathetic was because Warner's had actually been extremely generous to Prince from the very start of his career and the relationship only seemed to deteriorate as the 90s kicked in. And even then, there have been hints (The BBC's 'Prince's Millions' programme) that have suggested that the so-called battle was a bit of a put-on.
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Reply #22 posted 09/03/08 3:23am

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Haystack said:



(The BBC's 'Prince's Millions' programme) that have suggested that the so-called battle was a bit of a put-on.

i think this is the odcumentary i seen years ago (mid 90's) when i wasn't even a fan and ive been trying to find out about it ever since with no luck, could you describe it please?
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Reply #23 posted 09/03/08 3:55am

SoulAlive

Dayclear said:

Why do you people try to read so much into Price's music? Everytime that man does something somebody's gotta start a 'what did he really mean', who was he really talking about? thread?? confused


I agree,somewhat.Every song can't possibly be about someone that he personally knows lol Or about a situation that he is going through.On another thread,folks are saying that "I Hate U" is about Carmen Elektra.Unless he told us that,how can we possibly know that?
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Reply #24 posted 09/03/08 5:48am

Styles

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Actually....

Delores is real and one incredible woman.
I call her Dee and she's one of my best friends..

Truth is sometimes stranger than fiction and
that's all I have permission to mention...

For those of you who know me or know of me, you
know that my reputation is solid and real and that's
all I have to say about that...

*insert flames here--I don't care*

peace

jshua
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Reply #25 posted 09/03/08 6:16am

SoulAlive

Styles said:

Actually....Delores is real and one incredible woman.
I call her Dee and she's one of my best friends..


hmmm If you know her,do you agree with the way Prince portrays her in the song?


Truth is sometimes stranger than fiction and
that's all I have permission to mention


Oh stop it.Forget about all this "permission" stuff.Just tell us the details,please lol

For those of you who know me or know of me, you
know that my reputation is solid and real and that's
all I have to say about that


hmmm

*insert flames here--I don't care*


Flames? No flames necessary.This is Prince.org...we're a cool bunch lol

peace

jshua[/quote]
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Reply #26 posted 09/03/08 7:04am

Styles

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The song is actually a play on words for someone who is real but it's not an actual accounting of who she is...

The hint in its fallacy is in the lyric: "like a real confession, no one could be more made up than you..."

and yeah, I do need permission because of this surrealistic life I've just recently stepped into....

It's all good and sorry to sound so cryptic but I hope that answered your question (in part, anyways)...

Like I had previously mentioned, some people know me or know of me around these parts and I have no reason to make any of this up...

Truth can sometimes be stranger than fiction...

peace

jshua
[Edited 9/3/08 7:05am]
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Reply #27 posted 09/03/08 7:14am

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Doloris is any woman who whores herself out just to get close to a celebrity. I'm sure Prince has met some doozies. lol

"Prince, I really love you and want to have your baby. But, could you first buy me that diamond anklet. lol
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #28 posted 09/03/08 7:27am

Styles

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She's quite an accomplished musician....

peace


and I'm out..


jshua
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Reply #29 posted 09/03/08 10:04am

Baylana

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2freaky4church1 said:

Doloris is any woman who whores herself out just to get close to a celebrity. I'm sure Prince has met some doozies. lol

"Prince, I really love you and want to have your baby. But, could you first buy me that diamond anklet. lol


"Or get me the record deal I want"
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