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Reply #30 posted 11/17/02 3:36am

Come2getheras1

I enjoy the album in a throwaway knid of sense, for me similar to Choas and Disorder.

However, the big difference is when you get to Wasted Kisses. This song is original, innovative and unlike anything he has done in the past. At the time it reminded me why I fell in love with his music and reassured me to expect the unexpected and there are flashes of genuis even in his most mediocre work.
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Reply #31 posted 11/17/02 3:39am

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I like NPS. It's not a classic like 1999, SOTT, Lovesexy or TRC, but it's well worth a look. I love the first 5 tracks, but from there on though, it's seems unfinished, or out of context or something. Still, it's not as bad as many of the orgers think. If you look at it as just a good old party album, it does its job!
Best tracks: first 5 tracks and Wasted Kisses' (yum!)
Worst tracks: Push It Up, Freaks, Funky Music (yuk!)
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Reply #32 posted 11/17/02 3:20pm

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I think people judge a prince album in different ways. There are those who listen to an album with the attitude that it is a collection of songs, regardless of who created them. Then there are those who realize that every album he puts out is a statement of where he is in his life in a musical perspective. The man who released NPS is the SAME man who released SOTT, Purple Rain, Lovesexy, and The Rainbow Children. I think that a lot of people should be glad that he hasn't reproduced the same sound year after year after year; album after album.
I don't care what you have to say, NPS is a Prince original! It all came from the same genius, no matter what the cover says. Think about this, if you will. What if Prince decided, at the last minute, to not release the songs on NPS? What if they were just sitting in the vault? I don't know about you, but I'm glad he chose the alternative. He obviously decided that NPS would be his next statement in music, and I'm glad he did, no matter how good or bad anyone else thinks of it. I would rather he be honest, and put out the music that he wants to put out.

I don't think it's his best album...it's far from it...but I'm glad that I could buy it and listen to it for a while, if only to get an idea of where he was at the moment in his career.

I get the feeling that there are a lot of people out there who, for years now, have expected the next Prince album to be the best one yet. They have a lot of faith in him as a musician, and they know that he's the shit, therefore, they keep thinking that he's going to outdo himself every time he puts out a new release. When the new release doesn't compare to their favorite album at the time, then it's a piece of crap in their eyes! I hate that!

There is a lot of recorded Prince music, released or not. I like to think of the material that he releases once or twice a year as the music that he stands behind and says, "Here. This is what I want to release at this time" I would rather he keep doing this, than to try and outdo himself each year and end up falling on his ass.

You can try to argue with me, but it's no use...I'm right!


You are VERY wrong!

#1) Do George Lucas fans embrace "Howard the Duck" just because it came from the same man behind "Star Wars" or "Indiana Jones"? Was "Howard the Duck" what Lucas was "feeling" @ the time?
It's OKAY to admit NPS is GARBAGE.

#2) An artist, even Prince, has an OBLIGATION to PAYING people who are investing TIME and $$$ on his efforts to make his "Product" the BEST it can be! NPS is NOT Prince giving his best in Musicianship, Studio production, or Songwriting. NPS is LAZY. NPS is UNCREATIVE. NPS is IRRELIVANT. NPS is a throwaway "effort".Wake up. Crediting it to NPG and NOT "Prince" was a way of DISASSOCIATING him from the lp! WHY didn't he credit "Rainbow Children" to NPG? Because it was an actual effort!
...Bottom line: YOU seem satisfied with Prince releasing ANYTHING good OR bad, saying you would rather have NPS than see it sit in the vault. Are you a person who has LOWER expectations of things,are you a person who PREFERS QUANTITY to QUALITY? It would seem so!

I expect A GOOD EFFORT and a WORTHY cd EVERY TIME I take a New Prince cd to the cash register! WHY should I EXPECT less?!?!

Sometimes, and in the case of NPS, Prince HURT his reputation as a RELEVANT and WORTHY artist of attention by releasing Throwaway crap. Staying Quiet for a year would have helped his reputation MORE than NPS ,actually.

#3) NPS is HARDLY an "original". It sounds like an artist trying to rip off the Prince sound.Ti call it a "Party Record" is too easy a label! Do you PARTY to "THE ONE", or "UNTIL URE IN MY ARMS AGAIN", DO you "get down" to Shoo-Bee-Doo"; does "FREAKS ON THIS SIDE" get the floor movin? Try whipping out "NEWPOWER SOUL" or "WASTED KISSES" @ your next party and see what happens. "PARTY ALBUM"-HA!
PARTY ALBUM IS A NICE WAY OF SAYING A "mindless recording"!

#4) I would rather he try to OUTDO himself and "fall on his ass" as you put it than release any old thing and say, "this is what I felt"
WEAK!
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Reply #33 posted 11/17/02 3:32pm

DavidEye

'New Power Soul' is a weak,run-of-the-mill album that Prince could do in his sleep.These are just throwaway funk tracks,nothing more.Don't kid yourselves,this was NOT a great album by any means,and we all know Prince can do better.
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Reply #34 posted 11/17/02 4:41pm

pimpytheclown

IstenSzek said:

I don't consider it a real Prince album anymore and that
made it a bit easier to listen to.

It's a fun album if you don't take it seriously and just
take it as a bunch of goofy funky songs.

Mad Sex, Come On, The One, Wasted Kisses. Those are good
songs. The rest is b-sides looking for album fame.



1) I guess by your "standards", pretending "Let It Be" was not made by the Beatles makes it "easier" to listen to that album too, huh? Does IGNORING the fact Prince "produced, arranged, composed,performed",financed,put together the distribution deal, appears on the cover and booklet make it a more tolerable listenfor you? You can IGNORE all these facts because it's "credited" to NPG?

2) It's a "FUN" album? What are the "fun" parts, specifically? Where is this "fun"?

3) "If you don't take it seriously and just take it as a bunch of goofy funky songs"...TRANSLATION: If you shut off your mind and taste and just take it as a bunch of lame songs"!
Is "The One", "Wasted Kisses", "Until Ure In My Arms Again", "Come On"-goofy?

Is "Mad Sex" or "Push It Up" as you say, "goofy", or LAZY?

"NPS", "When U Love Somebody", "Freaks on this Side", "Funky Music"- are THESE "goofy"? OR FLAT, LAME, UNIMAGNITIVE?


It is shocking and disappointing that many of you make excuses for this product. Either you are blinded by your obsession for all things Prince, have a limited musical pallette, or have not exposed yourself to a lot of music.

There are VITAL works by John Coltraine,James Brown, Miles Davis, Funkadelic, etc. that are more worthy of your time than NPS. I bet if you absorbed yourself in the music of those worlds and came back to NPS you'd wonder why you gave it so much play.
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Reply #35 posted 11/17/02 4:47pm

teller

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pimpytheclown said:

Anyone who defends NPS needs to expand their "musical pallette" and listen to more music than Prince to appreciate earnest, sweaty efforts and creativity. NPS is a product by an egotistical artist who thinks his s--t doesn't stink-but NPS clearly does.
Ok...in IceNine style, I'm gonna have to call you a fuckin' moron. My musical taste spans the universe, probably beyond yours or most anyone's...I seek out the best and find them, in music and elsewhere. And I say NPS, while not his "masterwork" is something I would be upset about if it were not released.

XTC, Bjork, Beck, Bowie. Fuck you.
Fear is the mind-killer.
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Reply #36 posted 11/17/02 4:48pm

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Reply #37 posted 11/17/02 4:50pm

teller

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shausler said:

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Yes, shausler. Exactly.
Fear is the mind-killer.
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Reply #38 posted 11/17/02 6:50pm

jtgillia

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With the kind of argument some of you make, we should just all ignore pop music completely and listen to classical and jazz. Because pop doesn't measure up.

I listen to Debussy, Mozart, and Tchaikovsky, but damnit, sometimes I wanna have a little fun and listen to NPS or the new Christina Aguilera album. I don't feel the least bit guilty about it.

Music is for enjoyment. It is a way to heighten our emotions. Not another thing to prove how snobby and stuck up you are.
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Reply #39 posted 11/17/02 8:55pm

pimpytheclown

teller said:

pimpytheclown said:

Anyone who defends NPS needs to expand their "musical pallette" and listen to more music than Prince to appreciate earnest, sweaty efforts and creativity. NPS is a product by an egotistical artist who thinks his s--t doesn't stink-but NPS clearly does.
Ok...in IceNine style, I'm gonna have to call you a fuckin' moron. My musical taste spans the universe, probably beyond yours or most anyone's...I seek out the best and find them, in music and elsewhere. And I say NPS, while not his "masterwork" is something I would be upset about if it were not released.

XTC, Bjork, Beck, Bowie. Fuck you.



Your response is not very intelligent.

I'm not going to get into an insult contest or lower myself to your level.

Suffice to say, the language you use, and the defensive anger in response to my accurate evaluation of NPS is indicative of someone whose intelect WOULD think NPS is any good.

"A Love Supreme" by John Coltraine is like a Picasso:NPS is like a bad Blondie and Dagwood strip.

I hope you find a way to work out your anger and find a way to accept the opinions of others, "Teller". Your soul is in obivious torment!

God bless you.
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Reply #40 posted 11/18/02 2:29am

DavidEye

And by the way...despite Prince's attempt to label this a "NPG" album,it is a Prince album all the way.He appears on the cover,he sings lead vocals on all the songs,and he wrote and played most of the instruments.'Goldnigga' and 'Exodus' could rightfully be called "NPG" projects,but 'NPS' is Prince all the way.
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Reply #41 posted 11/18/02 6:45am

teller

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What I took offense at was this:

pimpytheclown said:

Anyone who defends NPS needs to expand their "musical pallette"
This is a bold assumption, and I answered it clearly. Perhaps I shouldn't have said "fuck." I apologize for that.

But you do it again:

pimpytheclown said:

Your soul is in obivious torment!
My soul is not in torment...you're boldly psychologizing based on a few posts. Get real!

Anyways...move along...no hard feelings...
Fear is the mind-killer.
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Reply #42 posted 11/18/02 7:00am

teller

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pimpytheclown said:

...indicative of someone whose intelect WOULD think NPS is any good

You're basically telling everyone here, "if you like a certain album, then you're stupid."

Nuff said...
Fear is the mind-killer.
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Reply #43 posted 11/18/02 7:05am

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i totally love that song..."when u love someone"...the one line "with every sunshower...there's pain"
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Reply #44 posted 11/18/02 12:36pm

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teller said:

If you give it a spin, you'll find several great tracks! People forget that "The One" is even one there. And what about "Wasted Kisses" ?! Freaks on this side?

GEEZ!!!

Like, it's my job to defend NPS through the ages...


Like?

I have only one way of qualifying my albums that is by how many times i listen to them.

I'm afraid The Black Album NPS Emancipation prince and Diamonds and Pearls are bottom of my prince pile.

Mad Sex is the Cindy C. for Scary Spice and as forgetful

I like Wasted Kisses though
I feel pretty, that's enough
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Reply #45 posted 11/18/02 1:16pm

teller

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servantsofpuas said:

I have only one way of qualifying my albums that is by how many times i listen to them.
Can't argue with this method! smile

And as fans we'll never agree on his music it seems...
Fear is the mind-killer.
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Reply #46 posted 11/18/02 1:51pm

paradigm

NEW POWER SOUL WAS DISSAPOINTING AT THE TIME BUT I ALSO FOUND EMANCIPATION 2 BE ALSO.BUT LIKE EMANCIPATION THIS ALBUM GREW ON ME AND ALTHOUGH HE HAS DONE WORK THAT IS FAR BETTER. I WOULD NOT LIKE 2 LOOSE IT FROM MY COLLECTION FOR THE SAKE OF WASTED KISSES/FREAKS ON THIS SIDE/THE ONE AND COME ON

EACH 2 THERE OWN
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