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PrintableGraycap23 said: L4OATheOriginal said: funk isn't just about a groove, its a feeling. but i digress Don't start making sense in this silly ass thread.  
DID I DOOOOO THAAAAATTTTT? [Edited 8/27/08 8:24am] man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: ButterscotchPimp said: dude. here's a newsflash. I HAVE A LIFE. I HAVE A JOB. I HAVE MY OWN BUSINESS. I HAVE A GIRLFRIEND. So i'm not that sorry, that i don't spend every waking minute on the Org dissecting every aspect of Prince's life/career. I really don't give that much of a shit. I check in every now and again, and if i see a topic that gets me going/stirs my interest i post on it. Period. And good fucking lord, is every response to anything negative about Prince "awww you just want it to be the 80's again!"???? that shit is WEAK! no ones saying ANYTHING like that! do you have anything else to bring to the table other than that bullshit??? congrats son on ur accomplishments but everything u listed u have with the xception of my own business, i have as well but i also have my own fucking band! and yet in still instead of lambashing everyone, maybe u should take the time and search this resource center called the org and open ur eyes 2 what other people have 2 say. and my xamples u will find all over this place. 
what i can tell from ur posts everytime someone provides u with some FACTS ur quick 2 thumb ur nose at people. but u will highly praise those that get ur "facts" and agree with u. 
dude. i don't care about your band, your life, you, whatever. you asked where i was when blah blah blah discussion was going on, and my point was i'm busy. i pick my spots. what you call "lambashing" (and i think you meant lambasting) i call holding up my end of an argument. some people have come in here with opinions that i don't agree with but they've expressed themselves well and had a point. that's not what YOU do. and  the Org is a "resource center"????? FOR WHAT???? the music knowledge on here by some is laughable at best, and unforgivable at times. "September" is a funk song. I swear i'll be laughing about that for months. Again, someone comes in here with some bullshit that YOU agree with it's "facts". If it's something that i agree with then it's a "lovefest".
Again, i call bullshit. http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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L4OATheOriginal said: ButterscotchPimp said: 
yeah. the Gold Experience tour. because that was Prince at his "tightest" fo sho. gotcha.  so what would u say he has been his tightest then? and we're talking about band members here Don't want to have that discussion in here. You want to start another thread talking about that, fine. But be warned, TGE was the first Prince album that i HATED. So there won't be much praise coming. http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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WHAT THE FFFFF?
We should not be discussing over one of the longest threads ever whether a guy that could come up with songs like Lady Cab Driver or Erotic City over 25 years ago (basically bringing funk to another level, opening new frontiers in fact when funk was about to die as George and others had no longer any new ideas and were replaying the same old tired tricks over and again) whether he is funky. PS: Maybe the problem is that Prince is no longer that funky, especially on albums, and that the funk that is left in him sounds somewhat dated. So people might start forgetting how funky the man was, but they should not and 25 years from now he will be acknowledged as an amazingly funky man, no doubt | |
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GustavoRibas said: ButterscotchPimp said: AGAIN, i know Prince can be funky. And there are modern artists that have taken the funk flag and kept it waving high, you just haven't necessarily heard of them. It didn't and doesn't end with Rick and Prince. Especially when Prince hasn't done that much "funk". - Can you please recommend me other artists? I hope you arent talking about people like Maxwell, that are soul, not funk. Yeah, i meant Maxwell.
How about you go find any cd's from a band called "Weapon Of Choice" and tell me how that sits with ya. Depending on if you like it or not, i'll have some more suggestions for ya. http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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DrD said: WHAT THE FFFFF?
We should not be discussing over one of the longest threads ever whether a guy that could come up with songs like Lady Cab Driver or Erotic City over 25 years ago (basically bringing funk to another level, opening new frontiers in fact when funk was about to die as George and others had no longer any new ideas and were replaying the same old tired tricks over and again) whether he is funky. PS: Maybe the problem is that Prince is no longer that funky, especially on albums, and that the funk that is left in him sounds somewhat dated. So people might start forgetting how funky the man was, but they should not and 25 years from now he will be acknowledged as an amazingly funky man, no doubt Which is why this thread is so long, because that was some bullshit right there. Someone else with the ridiculous idea that "funk was dying" and Prince "saved it". The myth rears it's ugly head once again. And what IS the longest thread in here anyways? I'd assume it would be one of the PFA threads, yes? http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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ButterscotchPimp said: L4OATheOriginal said: congrats son on ur accomplishments but everything u listed u have with the xception of my own business, i have as well but i also have my own fucking band! and yet in still instead of lambashing everyone, maybe u should take the time and search this resource center called the org and open ur eyes 2 what other people have 2 say. and my xamples u will find all over this place.
what i can tell from ur posts everytime someone provides u with some FACTS ur quick 2 thumb ur nose at people. but u will highly praise those that get ur "facts" and agree with u.
dude. i don't care about your band, your life, you, whatever. you asked where i was when blah blah blah discussion was going on, and my point was i'm busy. i pick my spots. what you call "lambashing" (and i think you meant lambasting) i call holding up my end of an argument. some people have come in here with opinions that i don't agree with but they've expressed themselves well and had a point. that's not what YOU do. and the Org is a "resource center"????? FOR WHAT???? the music knowledge on here by some is laughable at best, and unforgivable at times. "September" is a funk song. I swear i'll be laughing about that for months. Again, someone comes in here with some bullshit that YOU agree with it's "facts". If it's something that i agree with then it's a "lovefest".
Again, i call bullshit. now ur making me laugh with trying 2 find this place as the center of the music knowledge center of the internet 
and i really could care less what u think of me cause in the end it's not that important, my ego doesn't need 2 b stroked as urs seems 2 b  man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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ButterscotchPimp said: L4OATheOriginal said: so what would u say he has been his tightest then? and we're talking about band members here Don't want to have that discussion in here. You want to start another thread talking about that, fine. But be warned, TGE was the first Prince album that i HATED. So there won't be much praise coming. i was referring 2 his bandmates since u as well have brung that point up about prince's lack of being funky live and i will agree with u about it depends on his band memembers. so b it man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: ButterscotchPimp said:
dude. i don't care about your band, your life, you, whatever. you asked where i was when blah blah blah discussion was going on, and my point was i'm busy. i pick my spots. what you call "lambashing" (and i think you meant lambasting) i call holding up my end of an argument. some people have come in here with opinions that i don't agree with but they've expressed themselves well and had a point. that's not what YOU do. and the Org is a "resource center"????? FOR WHAT???? the music knowledge on here by some is laughable at best, and unforgivable at times. "September" is a funk song. I swear i'll be laughing about that for months. Again, someone comes in here with some bullshit that YOU agree with it's "facts". If it's something that i agree with then it's a "lovefest".
Again, i call bullshit. now ur making me laugh with trying 2 find this place as the center of the music knowledge center of the internet
and i really could care less what u think of me cause in the end it's not that important, my ego doesn't need 2 b stroked as urs seems 2 b DUDE. YOU SAID..... maybe u should take the time and search this resource center called the org and open ur eyes 2 what other people have 2 say. and my xamples u will find all over this place.
you're like a dog running in a circle chasing its tail! what are you doing? and if i'm on the Org to get my ego stroked, then obviously i'm going about it all wrong. i'd just agree with ya'll that Prince is the God of Music, say that TGE was the best Prince album of all time, Graffiti Bridge wasn't that bad and then ya'll would invite me to your purple ice-cream social. i'll pass. [Edited 8/27/08 8:51am] http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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ButterscotchPimp said: GustavoRibas said: - Can you please recommend me other artists? I hope you arent talking about people like Maxwell, that are soul, not funk. Yeah, i meant Maxwell.
How about you go find any cd's from a band called "Weapon Of Choice" and tell me how that sits with ya. Depending on if you like it or not, i'll have some more suggestions for ya. Earlier when I mentioned the cats that I had personally tell me how much they dug P's "funk" i.e. Dwayne, Hampton, Gary, Roger, Blackmon, etc..I started to mention cats from Fishbone AND Weapon of Choice. My band and Weapons used to be on the same bill being that we gigged together a lot. I know Lonnie very well. His a HUGE Prince fan concerning P's funk. But I didn't mention him or WOC mainly cuz I didn't think you or hardly anyone else in this forum (being this isn't the Prince Non Music forum) would have even known who they were....Cool. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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ButterscotchPimp said:[quote] L4OATheOriginal said: DUDE. YOU SAID..... maybe u should take the time and search this resource center called the org and open ur eyes 2 what other people have 2 say. and my xamples u will find all over this place.
you're like a dog running in a circle chasing its tail! what are you doing? and if i'm on the Org to get my ego stroked, then obviously i'm going about it all wrong. i'd just agree with ya'll that Prince is the God of Music, say that TGE was the best Prince album of all time, Graffiti Bridge wasn't that bad and then ya'll would invite me to your purple ice-cream social. i'll pass. [Edited 8/27/08 8:51am] yes the org is the resource of PRINCE information, i didn't say this was the place 4 ALL THE MUSIC IN THE WORLD resource center
glasses alice..u need glasses alice man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: ButterscotchPimp said: you're like a dog running in a circle chasing its tail! what are you doing? and if i'm on the Org to get my ego stroked, then obviously i'm going about it all wrong. i'd just agree with ya'll that Prince is the God of Music, say that TGE was the best Prince album of all time, Graffiti Bridge wasn't that bad and then ya'll would invite me to your purple ice-cream social. i'll pass. [Edited 8/27/08 8:51am] yes the org is the resource of PRINCE information, i didn't say this was the place 4 ALL THE MUSIC IN THE WORLD resource center
glasses alice..u need glasses alice The Org isn't even that. It's an internet lunchroom for swooning KAK's. http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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ButterscotchPimp said: L4OATheOriginal said: yes the org is the resource of PRINCE information, i didn't say this was the place 4 ALL THE MUSIC IN THE WORLD resource center
glasses alice..u need glasses alice The Org isn't even that. It's an internet lunchroom for swooning KAK's. and it comes complete with the bullies that dictate how u should feel music is 2 b felt of what's not this or that  man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: ButterscotchPimp said: The Org isn't even that. It's an internet lunchroom for swooning KAK's. and it comes complete with the bullies that dictate how u should feel music is 2 b felt of what's not this or that Yeah. I'M the "bully". Someone comes along and doesn't agree with the masses, and has the nerve to speak up for themselves, and i'm the one causing problems here. Gotcha. http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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ButterscotchPimp said: L4OATheOriginal said: and it comes complete with the bullies that dictate how u should feel music is 2 b felt of what's not this or that Yeah. I'M the "bully". Someone comes along and doesn't agree with the masses, and has the nerve to speak up for themselves, and i'm the one causing problems here. Gotcha. there is a difference about disagreeing and being a bully. i'm not just saying that u r the "bully" there r others in this thread and others that do this. it's actually okay 2 disagree with not liking something, but there's just a flip side 2 it when someone "labels", "points a finger" and "calls someone out of their name" just because they don't view or share ur opinion. it's all good 2 have that type of discussion. debates r a great thing 4 the pysche and soul. but if ur facts r challenged, or presented, there comes the option of playing fair or mudslinging. the mudslingers r the ones that want 2 try 2 hit below the belt but cry foul if their opponent hits even lower. u had said earlier 2 me that let's just agree 2 disagree, i have no problems with that. i can easily shake ur hand and walk away with no hard feelings. man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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ButterscotchPimp said: Yeah, i meant Maxwell.
How about you go find any cd's from a band called "Weapon Of Choice" and tell me how that sits with ya. Depending on if you like it or not, i'll have some more suggestions for ya. - I will try to find their stuff. Thanks for the tip 
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ButterscotchPimp said: JonnyApplesauce said: Stop the hate; Life it aint real funky, unless its got that pop
well, that's original. thanks, i guess. how about some music Whats the matter with your life Is the poverty bringing u down? Is the mailman jerking u round? Did he put your million dollar check In someone elses box? Tell me, whats the matter with your world Was it a boy when u wanted a girl? (boy when u wanted a girl) Dont u know straight hair aint got no curl (no curl) Life it aint real funky Unless its got that pop Dig it Pop life Everybody needs a thrill Pop life We all got a space 2 fill Pop life Everybody cant be on top But life it aint real funky Unless its got that pop Dig it Tell me, whats that underneath your hair? Is there anybody living there? (anybody living there) U cant get over, so u say u just dont care (dont care) Show me a boy who stays in school And Ill show u a boy aware! Dig it Pop life Everybody needs a thrill Pop life We all got a space 2 fill Pop life Everybody cant be on top But life it aint real funky Unless its got that pop Dig it What u putting in your nose? Is that where all your money goes (is that where your money goes) The river of addiction flows U think its hot, but there wont be no water When the fire blows Dig it Pop life Everybody needs a thrill Pop life We all got a space 2 fill Pop life Everybody wants to be on top But life it aint real funky Unless its got that pop Dig it Pop life Everybody needs a thrill Pop life We all got a space 2 fill Pop life Everybody cant be on top But life it aint real funky Unless its got that pop Dig it  [Edited 8/27/08 19:19pm] | |
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Mr. Butter Pimp, i agree that Prince records of late are laughable (90's - present-*psst thats what your friends were talking about) But for you to decree that he is not Funk , means its time for you to put that bottle down, and attend AA meetings [Edited 8/28/08 5:46am] | |
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ButterscotchPimp said: DrD said: WHAT THE FFFFF?
We should not be discussing over one of the longest threads ever whether a guy that could come up with songs like Lady Cab Driver or Erotic City over 25 years ago (basically bringing funk to another level, opening new frontiers in fact when funk was about to die as George and others had no longer any new ideas and were replaying the same old tired tricks over and again) whether he is funky. PS: Maybe the problem is that Prince is no longer that funky, especially on albums, and that the funk that is left in him sounds somewhat dated. So people might start forgetting how funky the man was, but they should not and 25 years from now he will be acknowledged as an amazingly funky man, no doubt Which is why this thread is so long, because that was some bullshit right there. Someone else with the ridiculous idea that "funk was dying" and Prince "saved it". The myth rears it's ugly head once again. And what IS the longest thread in here anyways? I'd assume it would be one of the PFA threads, yes? Man, do you really know about late 1970s-early 1980s funk and what george, Bootsy and all the others were putting out back then? If you really did, you would acknowledge that the Prince songs I mention (and a few others) were really UFOs when they came out and avoided funk sinking into the same old-tired tricks over and again (which i love by the way: believe me, I know A LOT about funk! And believe me as well, I am not a hardcore Prince fan, have never been and am even less today -as a matter of fact there are several artists I like better-, but there should be limits to the bullshit you are allowed to bother us with) | |
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Just to keep the dead horse from going completely under. P's best funk trak:
New Position (just because I KNOW that BP won't even let it get close to his definition) Slow funk trak: JIR "A little bit behind the beat, I mean, just enough to turn you on" (that's MY definition of FUNK - the first clause could be for jazz phrasing but the second half is pure F...) "We've never been able to pull off a funk number"
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Will y'all let this thread die already? Points were made and points weren't made. I don't think anyone is anymore enlightened now then they were when this silly thread started. Let this thread just R.I.P. I'm about to follow my own advice right now. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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Ugot2shakesumthin said: Mr. Butter Pimp, i agree that Prince records of late are laughable (90's - present-*psst thats what your friends were talking about) But for you to decree that he is not Funk , means its time for you to put that bottle down, and attend AA meetings
[Edited 8/28/08 5:46am] Uh huh. Thanks for your 2 cents. Really. I mean it. http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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DrD said: ButterscotchPimp said: Which is why this thread is so long, because that was some bullshit right there. Someone else with the ridiculous idea that "funk was dying" and Prince "saved it". The myth rears it's ugly head once again. And what IS the longest thread in here anyways? I'd assume it would be one of the PFA threads, yes? Man, do you really know about late 1970s-early 1980s funk and what george, Bootsy and all the others were putting out back then? If you really did, you would acknowledge that the Prince songs I mention (and a few others) were really UFOs when they came out and avoided funk sinking into the same old-tired tricks over and again (which i love by the way: believe me, I know A LOT about funk! And believe me as well, I am not a hardcore Prince fan, have never been and am even less today -as a matter of fact there are several artists I like better-, but there should be limits to the bullshit you are allowed to bother us with)
Right. AGAIN, the idea that "funk was dying" and Prince somehow came along and saved it IS FUCKING RIDICULOUS. There's no other way to put it. Oh, wait there is. BULLSHIT. And if you knew a damn thing about funk you wouldn't have come in here with that weak ass take. AND you don't have to be bothered by me playa, just don't click on any threads that were started by me. How's that? http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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wasitgood4u said: Just to keep the dead horse from going completely under. P's best funk trak:
New Position (just because I KNOW that BP won't even let it get close to his definition) Slow funk trak: JIR "A little bit behind the beat, I mean, just enough to turn you on" (that's MY definition of FUNK - the first clause could be for jazz phrasing but the second half is pure F...) http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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purplecam said: Will y'all let this thread die already? Points were made and points weren't made. I don't think anyone is anymore enlightened now then they were when this silly thread started. Let this thread just R.I.P. I'm about to follow my own advice right now.
I love how the KAK's want to dismiss this thread/conversation as "silly" but then want to go right back to threads like "if there was Flavor Of Prince, would you go on it?" Gotcha. http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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Um, the reason this thread has become silly is because there are a few on here who WILL NOT let it die until he has the last word...
I keep coming back here- like I'm sure a few others do- to see what has become like a fatal highway accident... U know U shouldn't look, but U can't help but stare at the carnage.
It's just pathetic. Let it go... I thought maybe the beating horse GIF was a hint, but 
And before U waste your breath, I'm soooo far from a KAK! 
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chocolate1 said: Um, the reason this thread has become silly is because there are a few on here who WILL NOT let it die until he has the last word...
I keep coming back here- like I'm sure a few others do- to see what has become like a fatal highway accident... U know U shouldn't look, but U can't help but stare at the carnage.
It's just pathetic. Let it go... I thought maybe the beating horse GIF was a hint, but
And before U waste your breath, I'm soooo far from a KAK!
(I'm the one who got ripped because I fail to see the brilliance of "Little Red Corvette" and "America"). Uh huh. So now i'm "silly" and "pathetic" for replying on posts on a thread i created. AGAIN, if you don't like the topic stay the fuck outta here then! It's not difficult! I started this for the conversation, and if people still want to come in here with something to say, i'll respond to it if i think it warrants it. http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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ButterscotchPimp said: purplecam said: Will y'all let this thread die already? Points were made and points weren't made. I don't think anyone is anymore enlightened now then they were when this silly thread started. Let this thread just R.I.P. I'm about to follow my own advice right now.
I love how the KAK's want to dismiss this thread/conversation as "silly" but then want to go right back to threads like "if there was Flavor Of Prince, would you go on it?" Gotcha. You and your KAK shit can kiss my ass. I've not been on this thread as much as others and it's partly because why would I want to debate with someone who makes it a point to try and call people names? I wouldn't do that to you so why do it to me and others? You don't show much respect to people here unless the people come and agree with your points. I would respect you more if you weren't coming in here like you da shit cause you're far from it. You want to talk with people about this "myth" of Prince's funk but once someone gives a valid point of how Prince his funk, you still try and dismiss it, hardly being open to the counterpoints being made on here. The point of what I said was that we are repeating ourselves at this point. It has nothing to do with me wanting more of the "Oh what food is Prince eating today" type of thread. But what's the point in explaining anything to you when you've already made up your mind about me and you haven't even spoken to me personally? What a waste. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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