Who's grown old? Hell, I'm just as young as ever. Hey, I'm not the one that slowed things down to a Lawrence Welk tempo. My ass has still got a lot more shake to it.

Actually, I wouldn't have a problem with shit hop existing and being so boring. However, when I get a problem is when everything else is kept out and nothing else can come in because record labels and radio don't want anything in style that might be more expensive to make. I have no problem with living and let live but these corporations ain't letting anything that I like live. And when Andy don't have no entertainment, he becomes meaner than a rattlesnake.
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Is that because 'you' are 'black'?

And another thing, sharply put (but with malice also...lol), people don't let themself enslave, divide or brainwash that easy, isnt it?

Alltough i like your thought out reactions, i cant escape the feeling youre using some 'textbook' meme-like 'arguments' in this particular reaction.

First, because i think it seems overwrought, like there is some deliberate plan among 'white people' to keep people of another race enslaved, divided or brainwashed.
Sorry, but such an idea is nonsense.

Secondly, because you don't seem to pay much attention to the possibilities and responbilities of the group who is, according to you, held down (as i said, not some 'masterplan' but for a large part 'perception').

Its the worn out excuse of people who are 'believing' too much in some kind of victim-role. Or maybe that victim-role even has some benefits, i mean, why would you otherwise lay it down as the essence of the position of 'black' people?

Sorry, prejudices will probably always be existing, people will probably always keep the tendency to judge others who are 'different' then themselves or the 'group' they belong to.
But that doesn't mean that, especially in these times, you should keep playing the victim-card.
Nowadays you have the opportunities to start your own business, no matter what colour you are, nowadays you have the freedom to express yourself, and thats a colourblind 'gift', but most important, nowadays, you have the freedom to let go of certain selflimitating dogma's, to let go of some tiresome, worn out 'victimrole' that doesnt stroke at all with reality.

Take those opportunities, or keep limitating yourself. Thats your own choice as an indivual, wether your black, white, brown, green, gay, lesbian, straight, thin,fat, handsome, ugly, introvert or extravert....
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black opression & white guilt


niether people will know the other's pain, or:

SirPsycho said:

White pain? What pain would that be?

The irony is that he sings that line on a song in which it is VERY easy to find the four!
Now, showing people where to clap on Delirious may have been a little more helpful. It's a hot mess watching folks sort that one out!

simm0061 said:

Honey I'm Black but I start dancing like a white girl on Delirious, what's up with that song-? Me and Delores.
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black opression & white guilt


niether people will know the other's pain, or understand exactly what it means to live life in the others skin [history attached] no matter how hard we try and pretend to.


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you have a poetic nature.



i totally agree.

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robinesque said:

With the exception of me and my fellow Prince fans, all white people lose any funkiness they may have had by the time they reach 30.

There should be a law that says white women over the age of 30 are not allowed to try to get funky on the dance floor. This may be news to the non-Prince world, but doing the hand-jive DOES NOT qualify as funk.

angelcat said:

thank you.

truth be told i feel sad for all of us, one of my closest friends told me how much it hurts him to know our shared past (he was actaully eleborating on a poem he wrote) and i remember seeing this hurt in his eyes that i couldn't understand. after that day i realized how much of a mind fuck it must be to have that looming over your head. i think thats what the "white man's burden" poem was about, but people debate that.

SirPsycho said:

i wish we all could start again.

but none of us should feel responsible for those who have gone before us.

here's to a happier future.

SirPsycho said:

correction. race is just a platform. it hints at the subtext.

SirPsycho said:

hmmm I think I may love you too

I'm suprised that this thread took a serious turn

I think its cool that it did...

I just thought that the song was pretty funny. I didn't think it was that obvious that he was being cheeky and I figure that there must have been plenty of clueless white kids getting all excited when he tells them to clap on the 4 and not realising that they are the butt of his joke...
that would've been me anyway "look at me look at me.. i'm white and can Clap on the 4.. woohoo!!!!!"
(now, if this had been a thread about nina simone... now there is a black artist who was a master of making white people uncomfortable at her concerts)

wow, you learn something new everyday. Carlton is the MJ lookalike kid?

I have to track this down

2funkE said:

proof that racism still exists in america.

Prince himself only ever did the "Carlton dance" until he finally learned some moves in 1982, so I don't know what he was bragging about.

MrsGoodnight said:

Me too!!! We should start a club.
Blonde, pale , white girls with rhythm unite!!

rnljs said:

i wanna join!

One time in 1982 while performing Sexuality Prince let the crowd sing along to the chorus line while the music/band stopped playing. When all a sudden (in a singing voice) Prince goes "White folks aint got no soul."