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Printable meow85 said: Ifsixwuz9 said: I think part of the point that Laurarichardson is making is that while Prince has covered a lot of songs LIVE he hasn't officially recorded them for resale. This distinction in necessary because as she pointed out several times you don't need permission to cover a song live. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the songs he's objected to by other artists were songs they wanted to include on albums and such. That being said his covers of Foo Fighters "Best of You" and Radiohead "Creep" were one off situations he probably had no intention of releasing as singles or putting on albums. Off the top of my head Prince has done minimal covers that were put on albums or released as singles which include: Stylistics, Sheryl Crow, Ohio Players, Bonnie Raitt, Delfonics, Joni Mitchell and Jimi Hendrix. And like laurarichardson pointed out each of those artists were notified and paid accordingly. If they weren't they should have sued him. . [Edited 8/25/08 7:28am] But Prince has objected flat out to covers of any kind, live or album work, of his own material. He can't just reject the idea altogether when it's his music being covered and have temper tantrums about it if he's going to be doing covers of other peoples' work. Legal issues aside, it's just bad form. I'll concede that Prince, legally speaking, is probably within his rights most of the time. But that doesn't mean he's not acting like a self-serving jerk when he does shit like this. Free the music? Indeed. 
Foo Fighters and Radiohead were both completely blindsided by Prince covering their work. They probably would have given permission anyways if he'd had the courtesy to ask. What's at issue though is that these weren't just performances at regular concerts, but at live broadcast gigs where he after demanded all footage be removed from the internet. Radiohead, at least, was nto pleased with this. He has objected to all covers of his material including live? Really? Please point me to the article or press release where he said this. As far and Foo Fighters and Radiohead go. What do you mean blindsided? Because he did their tracks live and didn't notify them? But did he have to, professional courtesy or not? No. Foo Fighters asked to cover "Darling Nikki" and planned to release it as a single. Prince objected. They released it as a B-side to another song anyway. Effectively taking the backdoor route and making it available as a single anyway, regardless of Princes' objections. So why are they complaining? The Radiohead situation regardless of what has been said I think had more to do with Prince not wanting any unauthorized live performances of him on YouTube, etc., regardless of who wrote the song. Again, why are they blindsided. he didn't ask that Radiohead pull their live performances off the site. He just wanted his off the site. I still fail to see how Radiohead has a say in Princes live performances regardless of if they wrote the song or not. . [Edited 8/25/08 14:03pm] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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kbarso said: I thought Warner Bros. own the right to this song. How can Prince have any say in the matter. Prince if you want to keep your current fan and gain more, cut us some slack. Your name is Prine but with this attitude you are not a Prince.
Prince doesn't own his mastertapes, but he does own his compositions as he is the publisher. And eye'm sure Prince has his reasons 4 not allowing the song 2 b covered mayb it's the record company or what was done 2 his song... Eye read once that he has no problem with other people covering his songs as long as they're not 4ced in2 per4ming them (in other words they genuinely love it) but he'd prefer 4 people 2 write their own material. 2 me that is being Princely! [Edited 8/25/08 14:35pm] | |
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OK...so how come some of the songs make it through and others don't? Can folks sample with out is permission? Didn't Lil' Wayne sample Diamonds and Pearls? Prime aka The Kid
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dseann said: kbarso said: I thought Warner Bros. own the right to this song. How can Prince have any say in the matter. Prince if you want to keep your current fan and gain more, cut us some slack. Your name is Prine but with this attitude you are not a Prince.
Prince owns the rights to the song and all songs from the album 'Purple Rain" as of 2004. Warner Bros. held exclusive rights to his material for 20 years after they were published. Blocking an "artist" from covering his songs is nothing new or surprising from Prince, Weird Al Yancovich or whoever it's spelled has been battling Prince to cover his songs with his random ridiculousness for years and keeps getting turned down(thankfully). Prince chooses who he wants to cover his songs, I find nothing wrong with that. Genuine completely ruined "When Doves Cry" and some bald-headed nut ruined "Adore" so I can see why he would be skeptical about letting some new comer cover one of his most popular tunes. not to mention the god awful 1999 cover played all over the air waves around the millenium by some loser - i couldnt understand how those guys got away with that when the original was the best choice to play. Everytime it started on the radio it jarred my nerves it was so bad!!!!! walk with crooked shoes www.myspace/syblepurplelishous | |
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It is okay, if someone covers a Prince Song, but not if its one of his hits ... Do U know what  mean? Purple Rain was so successful and if someone covers it, he/she xpects 2 have the same success and mayb the "real" Purple Rain will b 4gotten, cause there is a new, mayb more modern version of it
... guess, it would b okay, if Stevie Wonder covers a Prince song  'cause he is a great musician 2 ...
But otherwise can understand, if someone doesn't want others 2 use their songs or whatever ...
4 xsample: wrote a script 4 a short movie ... shoot it with a team ... it's not a big deal, but surprisingly ppl likes it and the camera man now tells everywhere it is his short movie, his idea ... have no rights, my name almost vanished ... it really makes me angry!
to put it in a nutshell: If U created something, U don't like it when other ppl steal Ur success, your ideas and xploy U and Ur creativity instead 2 create own stuff etc ... hope, my words can xpress correctly what mean ... (bad English  )
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syble said: dseann said: Prince owns the rights to the song and all songs from the album 'Purple Rain" as of 2004. Warner Bros. held exclusive rights to his material for 20 years after they were published. Blocking an "artist" from covering his songs is nothing new or surprising from Prince, Weird Al Yancovich or whoever it's spelled has been battling Prince to cover his songs with his random ridiculousness for years and keeps getting turned down(thankfully). Prince chooses who he wants to cover his songs, I find nothing wrong with that. Genuine completely ruined "When Doves Cry" and some bald-headed nut ruined "Adore" so I can see why he would be skeptical about letting some new comer cover one of his most popular tunes. not to mention the god awful 1999 cover played all over the air waves around the millenium by some loser - i couldnt understand how those guys got away with that when the original was the best choice to play. Everytime it started on the radio it jarred my nerves it was so bad!!!!! I just don't see what all the fuss is about. Any living artist should have the right to decide who covers his/her material. I agree with Prince. If he doesn't want some dentist/opera singer covering his song then the dentist/opera singer shouldn't be allowed to. | |
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dseann said: syble said: not to mention the god awful 1999 cover played all over the air waves around the millenium by some loser - i couldnt understand how those guys got away with that when the original was the best choice to play. Everytime it started on the radio it jarred my nerves it was so bad!!!!! I just don't see what all the fuss is about. Any living artist should have the right to decide who covers his/her material. I agree with Prince. If he doesn't want some dentist/opera singer covering his song then the dentist/opera singer shouldn't be allowed to. So basically you are saying that - for example - all the great Dylan covers that have been released over the decades, by so many great artists, should have never been released? Or are you trying to say that Bob gave his permission for every single one of them? You are kidding right? Some of you need to think a little further before you say such crass things as "Any living artist should have the right to decide who covers his/her material". I am glad you guys don't make the law. | |
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Tremolina said: dseann said: I just don't see what all the fuss is about. Any living artist should have the right to decide who covers his/her material. I agree with Prince. If he doesn't want some dentist/opera singer covering his song then the dentist/opera singer shouldn't be allowed to. So basically you are saying that - for example - all the great Dylan covers that have been released over the decades, by so many great artists, should have never been released? Or are you trying to say that Bob gave his permission for every single one of them? You are kidding right? Some of you need to think a little further before you say such crass things as "Any living artist should have the right to decide who covers his/her material". I am glad you guys don't make the law. What I'm saying is that all of Dylan's songs should not have been covered without his permission. Again, any living artist should have the right to decide who covers his/her material. I never said anywhere that an artists material shouldn't be covered. Some of you need to read what's in front of you and stop adding words/ideas to people's sentences. | |
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TheMightyCelestial said: Hey, you know guys know what I heard about what Prince calls a doctor who fails out of med school?
A dentist. 
[Edited 8/14/08 0:06am] In light of Mr. Richards' incident at that comedy club, this clip feels reeeeaaally creepy ... | |
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... and if he never let Weird Al redo any of his stuff, why should he let this fool ? Talent level is probably about the same . | |
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ginosascaggagracci said: ... and if he never let Weird Al redo any of his stuff, why should he let this fool ? Talent level is probably about the same .
Fuck the both of them even if they had talent. Let them do original material and see how far they get. | |
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