Graycap23 said:

Maybe. I dunno. I think he's still interested in generating sales/buzz, but maybe not. Even if he isn't interested in that right now, he's so mercurial that that could change with the wind.

vinx98 said:

Tom Jones. 1999 (at age 59) "sex bomb" - love that song (it was big in Aus and the UK anyway)

Cher,1998 (age 52) "Believe"- not so great, but still huge


it can be done- and don't forget that prince is way more shagable than either of these guys... the man is fine

"Musicology," is only 3 years old...The whole album is great...and, "Musicology," is a hit song...some kind of business pushed it aside...shortly after "Cinnamon Girl," was banned.

The video and the song were both being played regularly until, CNN announced that "Cinnamon Girl," was inappropriate...and then "Musicology," left MTV and the radio.

4 years old...sorry.

rusty1 said:

it depends on what "u" feel is a hit. every album P has done could do well on Top 40 or whateva but why care if it hits the chart or not. i've become really stingy when it comes 2 P's music now. if u don't know the last album P's put out then u'r not a fan/fam. casual fan/fam yes but we should b past all this.

If Prince doesn't EVER make another record, he doesn't own anybody anything.

rusty1 said:

that made me laugh son ..u think u know me but u don't. i don't like everything prince has ever done but I am certainly not one longing 4 it b the 80's again like u constantly do in ur thread starts. it's YOU that can't accept that time has moved on and that prince is 50 year old man so the thoughts of him making songs like Head again is ridicolous. it's time 4 u grow up mister and either get on the boat or get off ..ur choice

and i sincerly suggest u search amazon.com and find a book about prince's lyrics and then maybe u'll understand what truly was all about and if u were in the music game u would even understand it even more

As talented as Prince is, sure of course, you can never underestimate him.

His age, lack of promotion, or demographics, has NEVER been at issue. It has always been about the MUSIC. That’s always been the case with Prince. He succeeds because of his raw talent not because of celebrity.
With his stature, if he creates another incredible song it will be everywhere fast.
There are enough fans on radio, TV, magazines, websites, and fans like us that want nothing better than to hear and promote another great Prince cut.

robinesque said:

They're just singers though, not musicians / songwriters. Their involvement in said tracks might have consisted of just five mins in the studio for the vocals. The tracks may have been put together by 20 year olds.

Prince is going to have to write his hit, perform it in full, and produce the thing in his 50s. Whole other matter.

Maybe to have a monster worldwide hit in middle age will require an event beyond the track itself. To paraphrase Anton Newcombe (The Brianjonestown Massacre), he could always throw his baby off a ledge and write a song about it!
[Edited 8/15/08 3:42am]

I think Prince has, how about

FUNK o' the Times??

McD said:

I see your point
BUT

I still don't believe that turning 50 means that young people are going to stop listening to your music. I don't think you have to be under 30 for kids to relate to what you have to say.

ToraTora got onboard from musicology, she's young isn't she?

I think that Prince could still write songs worthy of being a hit... but whether they actually become 'hits' is another thing entirely

I think that his fanbase will continue to grow based on what new music he produces as well as what has come before.

I think that Prince will be releasing GREAT albums in the future, that may not be full of hits, but which all the coolest kids at school will be listening to

(Why do people keep talking about turning 50 as if it is the end of cool? All the coolest people I met in my 20's were over 60. The coolest person I ever met in my life was in her 60's when I met her- I was 21... I'm going to ask this in GD)

I'm just saying that Prince's time past many years ago. Prince last real classic song was 7. i believe that was back in 1992. Prince makes songs now that 4 the most part u forget about in a couple of months.

rusty1 said:

Yeah, i would tend to agree with that, one of the last real stunners.
everything about that crazy track, the drum beat, the guitar work, the melody, the harmony, the overtracked vocals, AND great lyrics! ( im still not too sure about the "we will smoke them all" part tho)

Yes.

HELL TO THE MOTHERFUCKING NAW!!!

Don't know but we did get "Rave" which was written as sheet music in "GF". There are other sheets in the movie that I would like to hear. Who knows. Well he tour again. That's what I'm waiting for. It's been too long.

rusty1 said:

days of wild 1994 STILL kicks ass 2 this day
billy jack bitch -u better ask somebody
joint 2 joint - 12 years later it's still recognize by fans
the holy river - pure spiritual bliss still
3121 still gets people 2 have goosebumps
the word - do a search on how many people love this track


and the list goes on in between the tracks i mentioned and beyond

so i don't think people have 4gotten these tracks, u may have, but not everone

rusty1 said:

prolly not like before but hes a legend he doesnt need all that anymore.all i want from him now is to start releasing old stuff. and shit like that one song about makin you bleed or something..lawd!

only if he duets with another huge star, sad but true

I thought Fury would take off and was disappointed it didn't.

purplecam said:

Exactly. It's really not about the music, it's all about marketing.

On every Prince album up to this day, there has been at least 3 or 4 songs with huge hit potential, in my opinion. However, the way Prince runs his business these days, he simply doesn't have the resources to promote his singles enough.

Only the major record companies could - although they wouldn't, for several reasons. Basically, their opinion is probably that Prince would be difficult to work with, likes to run things his own way, wants a (too) big share of the profit, and hasn't got that many years left of his career anyway. So it's simply not worth the effort, from a business point of view.

They rather spend their marketing money on young, new artists that they can mold as they please.

This thread cracks me up. If take some of Prince's recent material and give it 2 another younger artist, a lot of them would have become hits. There is more at play here than u want 2 admit.

Graycap23 said:

No, I don’t think so,
Again, Prince is famous enough that he doesn’t and shouldn’t need promotional bombardment, the music should sell itself.
If the music is great, indie radio stations, web sites, music critics, etc. would be praising and promoting and propping the stuff, it would make critics top lists again,...JUST LIKE IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN FROM THE BEGINING.

The promotion you are talking about is reserved for up and coming pop-teeny-bopper acts manufactured by the record companies.

It’s amazing what critical acclaim will do for ANY record.
Grass roots word of mouth + critical acclaim was Prince's modus-operandi at one point (*which he still recieves for his live performances)

>>>and for the record, the name "Prince" has earned clout & special treatment (Tonight Show with Jay Leno) that most artist would kill for. If Prince wanted attention for any project, he just has to pick up the phone.
[Edited 8/17/08 10:08am]

violetblues said:

not really since both dylan and springsteen's latest efforts were critically acclaimed yet failed 2 burn up the charts as u say. belive me, payola is alive and well and prince ain't playing that game (listen 2 the lyrics of jukebox with a heartbeat)

L4OATheOriginal said:

Very true on both counts, but payola? i don’t thinks so.
They both did as good as to be expected in my opinion, both great albums by the way, but i couldn’t picture either of them burning their way up the charts inspiring Miley's and Mariah's fans to pick them up.
In this case I think it is demographics. These are not top 40 pop records
What i said was that a great album will find its audience, and will be promoted by indie radio stations, websites (like you just did for those two) critics, magazines etc, etc, like these two records definitely were.
In the end grass roots word of mouth will spread word for or against anything.

Did you buy these two records? What did you think?

>By the way, when by and large, not even his fans think his current albums are top notch, much less critically acclaimed, don't you think that is in part why his music hasn’t sold in larger numbers?
[Edited 8/18/08 7:25am]

violetblues said:

the industry really isn't like that
basically these days it's $100,000 for top 200
and a million might get you Top 40
and so on
that's what makes a hit in today's industry
A LOT of people want to get paid first

Yes of course he has a hit in him.
But will he make it come out and release it?

violetblues said:

honestly i respect both dylan and springsteen as musical icons but there music really isn't my cup of tea.

as 4 ur other question mixing in what u had said about indie sites etc, in terms of what the title of this thread is, pop masses won't know about that album and thus u'll get stupid ass articles during the grammy's questioning y so and so album won when it wasn't "mainstream" ie massive hit. so even tho demographics play in2 things but u can tell that some money or favors is going underneath the table. vh1 is a PRIME xample of this, just watch the videos they show in the top of the hour and tell me if they don't play that SAME video within that hour again!!! so someone is getting "paid" somehow 2 promote their artist. even back in mtv's hayday u never saw that shit happening. belive it or not, we r being programmed 2 hear this artist and that artist instead of true musicians like the likes of the musical icons.

now as 4 prince, naw i wouldn't say it's his fans, it's prince himself. prime opportunity 2 display his new music or recent music in front of millions/billions at a sporting event and instead he chooses past material. how can the masses know about ur product if u don't capatilize when the moment happens? whether the music is good or bad, u have 2 promote ur latest efforts and this xtends 2 his live concerts as well.

L4OATheOriginal said:

All true.....if that was his GOAL.

l4oneanother u are right about Days of wild, bjb, joint 2 joint, and i would add In this bed i scream. I still think the song 3121 is a very, very, flat song which does nothing 4 me. Days of wild blows that song away, She gave her angels is nice as well. For the most part, Prince's songs are mostly 4gettable these days.

rusty1 said:

not 4 me