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Printablepurplecam said: L4OATheOriginal said: thank u 4 ur xplanation but i just want 2 clarify myself 2 u if i may. i have been typing this way since 1984 and when i started developing being a songwriter myself, it was just easier 2 get my thought train out faster by using shortcuts or as u say "prince" speak and dare i say it's become a habit that i can't shake even when i'm writting professional letters at my job, i have 2 edit myself and write "normal". However, this doesn't make me a kool aid drinker i don't belive, but perhaps in ur eyesight i am. i not sure if u do but i would b curious 2 know that if u use ur cell phone 4 texting, if u actually spell out all the words without using shortcuts? But even if you want to talk like that because you feel like it, who is he to talk to or about you like you are a retard by calling you a "Kool-Aid Fan?" Then he wants to wonder why people come at him like he crazy. He said earlier "don't start no shit won't be none". Well homeboy needs to follow his own advice, for real though. oh he/she hasn't been the only one that refers 2 the prince community that way cause others like myself use the shorthand. it's just funny how people have different interpertations on what a "kool aid" drinker is man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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Call7779311 said: My thoughts exactly Tricky99 - couldn't agree with you more
ditto  very well worded tricky99 |
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purplecam said: Why does relevancy matter with Prince or any other artist? Prince must be relevent or else why are any of us here to talk about him? And in terms of him being relevent in pop culture today, no he's not. That's because he doesn't have an album to release and promote and he's not in the news for anything at the moment and that's fine. Once he does something, then he'll be relevant in the public eye again but even if it doesn't hit TMZ or the 10:00 O'Clock News, does that make you or anyone else here less of a fan? I don't need Prince to be relevant on the pages of US Weekly to make me more of a fan. I'm already a fan and will continue to be one even if he never has another hit song or album or a cover on People Magazine ever again. Oh and he's still relevant to ME and that's all that matter.
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These 'so-called' fans also wish to see one quality that has largely been missing from Prince recently: relevance. Life O The Party Incense and Candles The One U Wanna C are the pap of popstars... I once though Prince was more than merely that. Perhaps he isn't.
I want empathy, understanding and intelligence from Prince, especially now he's 50. On the 3 albums you've mentioned, these are not forthcoming. I hope they will appear relatively soon. | |
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BoySimon said: These 'so-called' fans also wish to see one quality that has largely been missing from Prince recently: relevance. Life O The Party Incense and Candles The One U Wanna C are the pap of popstars... I once though Prince was more than merely that. Perhaps he isn't.
I want empathy, understanding and intelligence from Prince, especially now he's 50. On the 3 albums you've mentioned, these are not forthcoming. I hope they will appear relatively soon. I find all those things there to my satisfaction, u don't. Prince is what he is. Stop wanting him to be someone he is not. | |
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Not 'someone he is not', just 'someone he once was'. A minor difference. | |
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and all this on a website that carries a 'Prince's chest-hair pictures' thread demand... how real. | |
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BoySimon said: These 'so-called' fans also wish to see one quality that has largely been missing from Prince recently: relevance. Life O The Party Incense and Candles The One U Wanna C are the pap of popstars... I once though Prince was more than merely that. Perhaps he isn't.
I want empathy, understanding and intelligence from Prince, especially now he's 50. On the 3 albums you've mentioned, these are not forthcoming. I hope they will appear relatively soon. Right. I could careless if he's relevant. I only brought that up to highlight the lack of reality from some of the kool-aid-kids about how "important" P is to the music industry and popular culture. When i first became a Prince fan, only BLACK PEOPLE knew about and listened to Prince. So he wasn't super relevant then. You highlight the point that i was trying to make earlier. With songs like "Life Of The Party" and "Incense and Candles" Prince sounds like he's trying to "figure out" HIMSELF how to be "relevant" again. It's like he's spoofing himself while at the same time trying to get "his "R. Kelly" on. I don't want to hear Prince trying to figure out what he can do to sound a little bit more like "Ne-Yo" to get airplay. I want him to make music that sounds like he doesn't give a fuck if ANYONE gets it or plays it on the radio. Prince was a trend-SETTER. He did music that changed what EVERYONE ELSE was doing, not the OTHER WAY AROUND. And when i listen to the last THREE albums, largely what i hear is Prince trying to "fit in" while still trying to convince himself that he's still "Prince". That's why TRC really stood out. That was the first time in a LONG time, that you could tell he really didn't care if anyone got that album. He made that one for HIMSELF. And THAT'S what i want to hear from the man. That's what i always heard, and that's what excited me about listening to a Prince album. It was like listening to an audio-diary that maybe you weren't supposed to listen to or quite get. NOT LATELY. Even when he's doing a track like "Black Sweat" it sounds like "well, the old heads will like this cuz it sounds like....." and i expect more from the man. http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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Anxiety said: i don't know. i prefer not to judge or define other fans based on my own preferences. if someone's just into the really old stuff, then chances are they have better knowledge or a better collection of stuff from that era than someone who has more of an interest in prince's later work (and vice versa).
basically what i'm saying is, everyone has their worth, and we can all learn from each other's concentration of interests. that said, i think there's some good stuff to be found in prince's 00s output, but it's far from my favorite era thus far. i think all the accolades and legend status has made prince soft and bored. he needs a new challenge, and when he finds it, i bet we're gonna be in for a wilder ride than we've had in years.  i agree, you don't have to qualify your status as a fan of someone. | |
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tricky99 said: I find all those things there to my satisfaction, u don't. Prince is what he is. Stop wanting him to be someone he is not.
The first part of your post is kewl, actually. You say it like it is, then you turn into the kind of person you are accusing people of being. Stop wanting Prince fans to be something they are not. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion. Just cuz you do not agree does not mean the other is wrong. There is no right. These "I am a better Prince-fan than thou"-threads are really boring and childish. It's cliques patting eachother on the back and no one's really listening or respecting eachother's opinions. It's like being back in fucking high school. |
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HamsterHuey said: tricky99 said: I find all those things there to my satisfaction, u don't. Prince is what he is. Stop wanting him to be someone he is not.
The first part of your post is kewl, actually. You say it like it is, then you turn into the kind of person you are accusing people of being. Stop wanting Prince fans to be something they are not. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion. Just cuz you do not agree does not mean the other is wrong. There is no right. These "I am a better Prince-fan than thou"-threads are really boring and childish. It's cliques patting eachother on the back and no one's really listening or respecting eachother's opinions. It's like being back in fucking high school. Thank you. http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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HamsterHuey said: tricky99 said: I find all those things there to my satisfaction, u don't. Prince is what he is. Stop wanting him to be someone he is not.
The first part of your post is kewl, actually. You say it like it is, then you turn into the kind of person you are accusing people of being. Stop wanting Prince fans to be something they are not. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion. Just cuz you do not agree does not mean the other is wrong. There is no right. These "I am a better Prince-fan than thou"-threads are really boring and childish. It's cliques patting eachother on the back and no one's really listening or respecting eachother's opinions. It's like being back in fucking high school. And the exact same thing can be said for those who continue to stress how Prince hasn't make a good album in 10, 15 or 20 years. They can't understand and accept that many like what Prince did after Lovesexy or The Rainbow Children or any other post-1988 Prince CD. No one wants to be objective about the whole thing and to me, that is what's really sad. That's just my view of it. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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purplecam said: HamsterHuey said: The first part of your post is kewl, actually. You say it like it is, then you turn into the kind of person you are accusing people of being. Stop wanting Prince fans to be something they are not. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion. Just cuz you do not agree does not mean the other is wrong. There is no right. These "I am a better Prince-fan than thou"-threads are really boring and childish. It's cliques patting eachother on the back and no one's really listening or respecting eachother's opinions. It's like being back in fucking high school. And the exact same thing can be said for those who continue to stress how Prince hasn't make a good album in 10, 15 or 20 years. They can't understand and accept that many like what Prince did after Lovesexy or The Rainbow Children or any other post-1988 Prince CD. No one wants to be objective about the whole thing and to me, that is what's really sad. That's just my view of it. Sure, it goes both ways. I am just always so surprised people get so aggressive at other people for having another opinion. So, someone does not really care for a certain period. So what? You can only argue your own case. If you find yourself getting wound up because someone does not like The Sun Moon and Stars as much as you do yourself, then you might want to go for a walk or something, instead of trying to make them feel less. |
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HamsterHuey said: purplecam said: And the exact same thing can be said for those who continue to stress how Prince hasn't make a good album in 10, 15 or 20 years. They can't understand and accept that many like what Prince did after Lovesexy or The Rainbow Children or any other post-1988 Prince CD. No one wants to be objective about the whole thing and to me, that is what's really sad. That's just my view of it. Sure, it goes both ways. I am just always so surprised people get so aggressive at other people for having another opinion. So, someone does not really care for a certain period. So what? You can only argue your own case. If you find yourself getting wound up because someone does not like The Sun Moon and Stars as much as you do yourself, then you might want to go for a walk or something, instead of trying to make them feel less. I don't find it surprising. People connect with music in their own way and I think that that's why people act the way they do. I do agree with you that if it becomes a big deal, yeah we should back away from the computer. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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I am not surprised at people disagreeing, I am surprised at the aggresive nature of some of the posts, often with such disdain. And that is is something the person whom's music they try to herald to the world is not really fond of.
Maybe if one finds him or herself attacking people for having another opinion in such a fashion, they should play Purple Rain or Lovesexy or sumthing. Make love, not war. |
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Just because P has the right too change, dosent meen we have to like it, its a free world you know.
That beeing said without expressing my own opinion of his later works. Freedom is to trust that you're doing what you must according to your lust | |
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HamsterHuey said: I am not surprised at people disagreeing, I am surprised at the aggresive nature of some of the posts, often with such disdain. And that is is something the person whom's music they try to herald to the world is not really fond of.
Maybe if one finds him or herself attacking people for having another opinion in such a fashion, they should play Purple Rain or Lovesexy or sumthing. Make love, not war. Around here, it's easier said than done. Sad to say this but it's true.  I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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Gimmesomehorns said: Just because P has the right too change, dosent meen we have to like it, its a free world you know.
That beeing said without expressing my own opinion of his later works. Like any artist, Prince records stuff that sounds good to one, but bad to another. Getting people on one line is impossible. I am happy when people get so excited over his latest work, even if I do not warm to it as they do. I mean, I jumped on board in 83/84 and peeps who were my elders in Prince adoration thought he was a sell-out for Purple Rain. It's always something. |
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HamsterHuey said: Gimmesomehorns said: Just because P has the right too change, dosent meen we have to like it, its a free world you know.
That beeing said without expressing my own opinion of his later works. Like any artist, Prince records stuff that sounds good to one, but bad to another. Getting people on one line is impossible. I am happy when people get so excited over his latest work, even if I do not warm to it as they do. I mean, I jumped on board in 83/84 and peeps who were my elders in Prince adoration thought he was a sell-out for Purple Rain. It's always something. in my experience i couldn't stand prince in the 90's did not like his work. after coming back on the board in 2004, i backtracked on all i missed and its been very interesting and enjoyable. there's are a lot of tracks that people love that i dont' and i love tracks that others don't but its still been fun to say the least. | |
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If someone loves Prince's more recent work or they don't care for it I think with time we will all come to value it more.   | |
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